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Globby
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.18 00:59:42 -
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i was told nullsec was getting buffs at some point after all the sov changes, have these been forgotten or what
asking for a friend |
Samwise Everquest
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps
FETID
157
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Posted - 2015.11.18 01:06:10 -
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Globby wrote:i was told nullsec was getting buffs at some point after all the sov changes, have these been forgotten or what
asking for a friend
we need more afk in afk activities
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps looking for work. Pras Phil.
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Globby
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
279
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Posted - 2015.11.18 01:09:18 -
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Samwise Everquest wrote:Globby wrote:i was told nullsec was getting buffs at some point after all the sov changes, have these been forgotten or what
asking for a friend we need more afk in afk activities
nullsec imo needs less afk and more actual income than highsec incursions which make 200 mil an hour lmbo |
Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
50
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Posted - 2015.11.18 01:20:29 -
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Globby wrote:Samwise Everquest wrote:Globby wrote:i was told nullsec was getting buffs at some point after all the sov changes, have these been forgotten or what
asking for a friend we need more afk in afk activities nullsec imo needs less afk and more actual income than highsec incursions which make 200 mil an hour lmbo
Risk=reward.
Rise/Fozzie nerf incursions.
You guys cant say with a straight face that the risk/reward level of highsec incursions are balanced in any way at all.
You guys also cant say with a straight face incursion runners face ANY risk other than socket closures/fleetmemebers falling asleep.
Nerf the isk printing plex printing high sec incursions already guys. Holy hell just adjust some numbers and tone them down dudes |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
332
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Posted - 2015.11.18 01:28:01 -
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Globby wrote:i was told nullsec was getting buffs at some point.....
Let us use our horrifically expensive and tedious to maintain Jump Bridges without getting the full whack of fatigue at the very least.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Dirk Magnum
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
515
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Posted - 2015.11.18 01:30:45 -
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Globby you know better than this :|
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "LIVE FAST DIE."
- traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
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Globby
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
282
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:18:08 -
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ya like srs where is my income that's half as good as highsec incursions? |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
990
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:22:54 -
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Globby wrote:ya like srs where is my income that's half as good as highsec incursions?
Blue sec incursions?
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Kirk Ernaga
Arbiters of the Void
Advent of Fate
14
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:26:11 -
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Lore wise I don't even feel that incursion make sense anymore, with sansha getting his ass handed to him so many times. I mean come on, I don't even thin PL could handle losing that many MOMs |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
990
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:37:01 -
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Kirk Ernaga wrote:Lore wise I don't even feel that incursion make sense anymore, with sansha getting his ass handed to him so many times. I mean come on, I don't even thin PL could handle losing that many MOMs
Agreed but at same time i am against removal of team pve from high sec at least....it's just too much good,relaxing, compared to solo farming l4.burners even if later nets you more isk. |
Kirk Ernaga
Arbiters of the Void
Advent of Fate
15
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:39:48 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:Kirk Ernaga wrote:Lore wise I don't even feel that incursion make sense anymore, with sansha getting his ass handed to him so many times. I mean come on, I don't even thin PL could handle losing that many MOMs Agreed but at same time i am against removal of team pve from high sec at least....it's just too much good,relaxing, compared to solo farming l4.burners even if later nets you more isk.
Yes I can agree with that. Alot of people would also just rage quit if you removed incursions. |
Globby
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
282
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:41:38 -
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Kirk Ernaga wrote:Mina Sebiestar wrote:Kirk Ernaga wrote:Lore wise I don't even feel that incursion make sense anymore, with sansha getting his ass handed to him so many times. I mean come on, I don't even thin PL could handle losing that many MOMs Agreed but at same time i am against removal of team pve from high sec at least....it's just too much good,relaxing, compared to solo farming l4.burners even if later nets you more isk. Yes I can agree with that. Alot of people would also just rage quit if you removed incursions.
self entitlement much lmao |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
1852
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:51:19 -
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great post 
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
464
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:06:54 -
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You so funny. Get that fabulous corp/alliance out there, stake out a system, and develop it. The "new" changes will make that ISK roll in soon enough. Or, are you just solo roaming, grazing on easily reached tidbits, and scorning the fools who play the game the way it was designed to be played? Funny post. Great? Get a dictionary.
Paranoia strikes deep....
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
1853
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:08:26 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:You so funny. Get that fabulous corp/alliance out there, stake out a system, and develop it. The "new" changes will make that ISK roll in soon enough. Or, are you just solo roaming, grazing on easily reached tidbits, and scorning the fools who play the game the way it was designed to be played? Funny post. Great? Get a dictionary.
what on earth are you talking about?
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
464
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:10:57 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Otso Bakarti wrote:You so funny. Get that fabulous corp/alliance out there, stake out a system, and develop it. The "new" changes will make that ISK roll in soon enough. Or, are you just solo roaming, grazing on easily reached tidbits, and scorning the fools who play the game the way it was designed to be played? Funny post. Great? Get a dictionary. what on earth are you talking about? You did put on your glasses when you started "reading" this morning? I certainly hope so!
Paranoia strikes deep....
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
12954
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:24:52 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:You so funny. Get that fabulous corp/alliance out there, stake out a system, and develop it. The "new" changes will make that ISK roll in soon enough.
And then one day you realize that you could have just stayed in high sec and made more individual isk/wealth than what you get out of a fully upgraded system while still being protected by CONCORD. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
1853
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:27:03 -
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think npc nullsec needs a buff more than any sov space
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Globby
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
282
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:35:41 -
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i think the max isk/hr you should make in highsec is like 60 mil/hr doing pve, not 200 imo |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
464
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:42:27 -
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MINOR TECHNICALITY! It's a matter of what you're in it for. You in it to make ISK, or build something? Both kill time, so meet the definition of entertainment.
Some people are against anything that takes time and effort to cultivate. Some people are for things that take a few minutes of button spamming to make digital explosions and generate a sensation that "that was someone else's thingy I just blew up!"
I guess the children of capitalists have to think in terms of making huge piles of things really fast!
Paranoia strikes deep....
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Globby
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
284
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:45:09 -
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capitalist pigs, amirite? |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
464
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:53:00 -
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If the oink fits....
Paranoia strikes deep....
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Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise
Upholders
421
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:00:52 -
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And where are the HS income figures when you factor in multi-boxing (the guy in the thread you linked claimed 235m isk/hr, but ran 3 accounts, so he only made 78m isk/hr) as well as the time it takes to exchange LPs and sell those items? |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
12954
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:12:23 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:And where are the HS income figures when you factor in multi-boxing (the guy in the thread you linked claimed 235m isk/hr, but ran 3 accounts, so he only made 78m isk/hr) as well as the time it takes to exchange LPs and sell those items? \
In the same place where NS (and WH and LS) income figures are after you 'factor in' taking (or renting) the space, upgrading the space, defending the space, using capital ships and fuel to move faction-deadspace loot/ore/whatever back to high sec, moving ratting/mining ships (or at least their BPCs) down to null in the 1st place, making or importing drones/ammo/mining lasers as well as factoring in the inevitable losses you WILL take because you have no CONCORD to respond to aggressors for you unlike in high sec.
Oh,. I'm sorry, did I interrupt you while you were considering all the things you have to do in high sec to create wealth while not giving the same consideration to other parts of EVE which involves WAY more time, thought, organization (from multiple thousands of people) and effort? My apologies... |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
1855
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:14:34 -
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nullsec players should not need to have alts in highsec to make isk
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise
Upholders
421
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:16:59 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:In the same place where NS (and WH and LS) income figures are after you 'factor in' taking (or renting) the space, upgrading the space, defending the space, using capital ships and fuel to move faction-deadspace loot/ore/whatever back to high sec, moving ratting/mining ships (or at least their BPCs) down to null in the 1st place, making or importing drones/ammo/mining lasers as well as factoring in the inevitable losses you WILL take because you have no CONCORD to respond to aggressors for you unlike in high sec.
Oh,. I'm sorry, did I interrupt you while you were consider all the things you have to do in high sec to create wealth while not giving the same consideration to other parts of EVE which involves WAY more time, thought, organization (from multiple thousands of people) and effort? My apologies...
I agree that incursions give an absurd amount of ISK for little risk.
Null isn't comparable, though. You don't have to move anything. You just pay your alliance hauling service to do it for you. Simply factor in that cost. It's completely disingenuous to talk about the effort of the organization in null without acknowledging the benefits you get from it. You don't have CONCORD, but you do have intel channels with hundreds of players for dozens of systems out telling you when anyone who isn't blue is getting close. That's more powerful than CONCORD will ever be.
Also, easy with the sarcasm tiger. I was simply pointing out someone running three accounts doesn't make 235m isk/hr. He makes 1/3 of that. Do you disagree with that statement, or did you completely miss the point of what I said? |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
1856
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:20:03 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:In the same place where NS (and WH and LS) income figures are after you 'factor in' taking (or renting) the space, upgrading the space, defending the space, using capital ships and fuel to move faction-deadspace loot/ore/whatever back to high sec, moving ratting/mining ships (or at least their BPCs) down to null in the 1st place, making or importing drones/ammo/mining lasers as well as factoring in the inevitable losses you WILL take because you have no CONCORD to respond to aggressors for you unlike in high sec.
Oh,. I'm sorry, did I interrupt you while you were consider all the things you have to do in high sec to create wealth while not giving the same consideration to other parts of EVE which involves WAY more time, thought, organization (from multiple thousands of people) and effort? My apologies... I agree that incursions give an absurd amount of ISK for little risk. Null isn't comparable, though. You don't have to move anything. You just pay your alliance hauling service to do it for you. Simply factor in that cost. It's completely disingenuous to talk about the effort of the organization in null without acknowledging the benefits you get from it. You don't have CONCORD, but you do have intel channels with hundreds of players for dozens of systems out telling you when anyone who isn't blue is getting close. That's more powerful than CONCORD will ever be. Also, easy with the sarcasm tiger. I was simply pointing out someone running three accounts doesn't make 235m isk/hr. He makes 1/3 of that. Do you disagree with that statement, or did you completely miss the point of what I said?
lol dont have to move anything wtf
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise
Upholders
421
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:22:04 -
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Lan Wang wrote:lol dont have to move anything wtf
You do know what a hauling service is, don't you? That you can simply fly a ceptor to null and pay your alliances service to haul for you? |
Globby
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
285
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:22:49 -
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lol if you think highsec cant have intel channels
lol if you think 200m/hr with one character doing incursions is fair gameplay
lol if you think you cant multibox 5 characters in incursions and make a bil an hour (i did it) |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
1857
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:35:51 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:Lan Wang wrote:lol dont have to move anything wtf You do know what a hauling service is, don't you? That you can simply fly a ceptor to null and pay your alliances service to haul for you?
but somebody has to do it dont they? so that is the weakest argument ive ever heard
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