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Kaboom22
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Posted - 2003.12.02 17:23:00 -
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Firstly, id like to request that the mods make this a sticky until people stop posting, as it will make my life far easier (and stop blasphemous bumping).
I have seen many little utilities around for storing various information about eve, a few calculators and maps around, but no real tools for managing all aspects of a corporation.
Then came the announcement that I required an A Level projectàsomething clickedà
So basically what IÆm going to be doing is writing a program to manage as many aspects as possible of the day to day management of corps, integrating all of the calculators, maps and databases (and a lot of stuff of my own) into one tool.
The program will be written in Visual Basic, and I can utilise the following information:
òAll information an stats on all ships
òThe EVE map (thanks devs :D)
òItems in eve (including BPÆs etc)
òPlayers skills (either user enterable or if I find a way to get them from the eve site)
òIf you know anything else that can be extracted, I like to hear it.
Here are some things I have planned:
òDatabase of all corporation membersÆ ships and skills. All would be stored on a shared and secure online account.
òMining operation planner û Works out yields, times and distances etc. Also would work out from available corporation ships, skills and other applicable data.
òFactory and lab manager û User could enter in time started, location of job and the BP in question. This would display the job on the map along with a time estimate. Various information about the BP could also be worked out (optimal research levels, mineral requirement for production, etc), all taking into account the users skills.
òAssets manager û a display of corporate assets (factories, labs, offices, container depos and player structures when they are added).
òOutput to website û maintains an in game website of corporate information as well as a online shop for corporate made items (I might do it for out of game too if I have time)
òVarious calculators
So is there something that you have always wanted to do/work out that eve or another tool just canÆt do? Post it here.
Thank you in advance 
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.02 17:50:00 -
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You rock, Kab 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.12.02 18:47:00 -
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Whats the ETA for releasing your tool?
What i would also love to see, is data regarding the corporation wallet. For instance: Most corporations now have a tax rule, where members are requested to donate every now and then. Would it be possible that you implement in this tool how much a member has contributed in the week/month/year base.
Second thing regarding wallet:
A display of an calculator that displays how much % your corporation has earned more regarding earlier weeks etc.
So that you can see if the corporation is making an actual larger profit than earlier weeks.
I dont know if you can add it, but its just a suggestion. Keep up the good work.
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Bigf0ot
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Posted - 2003.12.02 22:07:00 -
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Thats a really cool idea!
Sugestion:
a non Corp-Member Database, that can hold inteligence information on other player (PK's, Pirates and so on)
- Ship Type
- Online Time, Location
- Prefered Weapons / ECM and so on
- Notes
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Ability to save it on your own webserver!
Thought about such a programm by my selfe, but i can't code! :D
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.12.02 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kalki Nibiru on 02/12/2003 23:15:10
Kaboom22, if you had someone who was really good with PHP work with you on this product, would it be possible to make this tool interface with an online website running PHP?
The reason I ask is because if you could do that, then what you have is basically every CEO's dream and not only do you have that, you could make a little money on the side.
After all, you are doing something which not only organizes things, but also publishes information on a corporate website. And for those corporations that are large enough that need this kind of logistics help, a 6-month to 1-year license fee of $5-$10 USD or something like that is nothin (they would get free upgrades for the term of the license, once the license expires they are free to keep running the software but if they wanted anything with more features they would need to buy an upgrade license {cheaper than the original} to get another set of upgrades).
P.S. I am not that PHP writer, someone in my corp is.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.12.02 23:59:00 -
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I'd be willing to pay serious ISK for this kind of tool. Please keep us posted.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.12.03 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kalki Nibiru on 02/12/2003 23:15:10
Kaboom22, if you had someone who was really good with PHP work with you on this product, would it be possible to make this tool interface with an online website running PHP?
The reason I ask is because if you could do that, then what you have is basically every CEO's dream and not only do you have that, you could make a little money on the side.
After all, you are doing something which not only organizes things, but also publishes information on a corporate website. And for those corporations that are large enough that need this kind of logistics help, a 6-month to 1-year license fee of $5-$10 USD or something like that is nothin (they would get free upgrades for the term of the license, once the license expires they are free to keep running the software but if they wanted anything with more features they would need to buy an upgrade license {cheaper than the original} to get another set of upgrades).
P.S. I am not that PHP writer, someone in my corp is.
Its a great idea, but i wouldnt be willing to pay dollars for it. Isk however would be another issue, i would donate around 10mil isk for this idea if it would bring forth a program, and considering others payed as much for a search tool ill think he wont have to mine for a month. 
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Kaboom22
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Posted - 2003.12.03 10:14:00 -
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Yes i was considering charing a one off fee of isk for the tool, i cant charge actual money because of the EULA...(and incidently t10 mil was what i was considering )
As it is a A level project it will be starting programming next year (as in january).
I would like to output to PHP, but as i dont know it i would either have someone to write me the code or i need to start reading up.
I could do a graph of your personal income, but i couldnt do a graph of the corporate income as there is no way to access this out of game short of typing it in manualy
Good sugestions so far, keep em comming :D
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Invicitii xchiir
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Posted - 2003.12.03 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Invicitii xchiir on 03/12/2003 11:39:33
when I was looking at things I wanted to add to my corp web-pages, (before I got sick to death of the game) I came up with some things I really needed:
- a roster of corp members - groupable into squads/divisions/security status etc. depending on what the corp's structure/ethos is
- linked to this roster should be a db of people's involvement in corp operations (along with appraisals by directors). This is necessary in larger corps so you don't overlook any particular players efforts cos of sheer numbers of people or due to timezone differences. This db can be used to assess promotions, rewards, etc.
- list of offices and squads/divisions/members deployed there
- a notice board for news etc
- an area for players RL age and location - primarily to determine Timezone - necessary to co-ordinate corp operations. (also would be nice to have info on the players main hours/days of play) this can be tied with the skills, ship, timezone and locations of players dbs to help determine who will be part of the op and what kinda team you wanna set up for it
- players primary and secondary career objectives - necessary for mentors who will look after skill training schedules (mainly for the noob players) this can also be used for promotions (I was thinking that each career would have a set of skills that would be required as a minimum before promotions can be given - promotions would be tied with appraisals)
- a production request db. this will track players requests for items (it should be accessable by corp members some how, as many players in my corp need to find and make requests from only a few players who have prod eff lvl 5 skill, so if players can make requests and they are sent to this db that would be great). It will be helpful to determine if players are making excessive demands from corp. If this is tied into the appraisal and corp operation attendance db that would be great! :)
I have a ton of other things I could add, but they're prolly for version 2 :P
oops,.. just realised how reader unfriendly this is!...  anyway, if you want some more help,.. mebbe a relational schematic or summut, gimme a buzz :)
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Kaboom22
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Posted - 2003.12.03 20:16:00 -
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A very useful post invicti, any more info you have would be appreciated.
i may contact you ingame at some point.
please keep your sugestions comming everyone
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.12.03 20:46:00 -
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Quote:
Yes i was considering charing a one off fee of isk for the tool, i cant charge actual money because of the EULA...(and incidently t10 mil was what i was considering)
As it is a A level project it will be starting programming next year (as in january).
I would like to output to PHP, but as i dont know it i would either have someone to write me the code or i need to start reading up.
I could do a graph of your personal income, but i couldnt do a graph of the corporate income as there is no way to access this out of game short of typing it in manualy
Good sugestions so far, keep em comming :D
I'll ask the guy in my corp that does PHP to see if he would be interested in working with you on this.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
voogru
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Posted - 2003.12.04 01:15:00 -
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If you need a PHP Programmer give me a hollar.
However I hate Visual Basic (C++ pwns all).
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.12.04 01:21:00 -
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You forgot something to the database.
Accounting consultants:
Skillz
Skillz is of course far smarter, he takes potentinal recruits to a teamspeak server after they have posted screenshots from a traceable email adress.
Then record their speaches and then applies voice stress analysis, for some professional biometeric evaluation.
But any bugfree interface tool is always welcome. I'd hope that the devs could get your ideas into practice but it won't help you against the dreaded sleeper that can be right next to your hangar (tm)
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.12.04 01:24:00 -
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If you need a PHP Programmer give me a hollar.
However I hate Visual Basic (C++ pwns all).
No single language owns all. If C++ did own all then why has C#(sharp) been released?
If you do want to do it in PHP it wouldnt be hard to convert im sure. Algorithm's could prolly stay the same, with some syntax changes. Let me know if you want some help on the PHP aspect... ill be happy to help.
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.12.04 01:30:00 -
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Not to mention that CCP might sneak in some random variables as well.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.12.04 06:45:00 -
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Quote:
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If you need a PHP Programmer give me a hollar.
However I hate Visual Basic (C++ pwns all).
No single language owns all. If C++ did own all then why has C#(sharp) been released?
If you do want to do it in PHP it wouldnt be hard to convert im sure. Algorithm's could prolly stay the same, with some syntax changes. Let me know if you want some help on the PHP aspect... ill be happy to help.
Crimson, he does want to make the program be able to dump its information to a webpage. And I was going to ask you if you wanted to help him because of the great job you have done and continue to do with the EV site (perhaps you could use features that the EV site has with this program).
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.12.04 07:21:00 -
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yeah id be happy too 
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.12.04 07:31:00 -
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You ought to message him in game then. I see this program really helping the HC in the corporation out, even more so if it could dump its information onto a webpage.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Kaboom22
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Posted - 2003.12.04 15:38:00 -
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i am online tonight, any help with the PHP aspect would be appreciated, but not too much help as this is for my A levels and therfore i must do it myself for the most part...
would i would like to know is how EVE DB get their information from eve for their database, that would be an enourmous help.
please also bear in mind im doing lots of boring development work atm and i wont be startong the programming until the start of next year.
im writing in VB as i dont know anything else (and it will prolly do it quite well anyhew).
i also rember seeing waypoints and bokmarks stored in the eve cache in prefs.ini, but it has moved...where has this gone?
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Kaboom22
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Posted - 2003.12.06 18:29:00 -
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im affraid this is gona need a bump...
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Ganja
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Posted - 2003.12.06 23:31:00 -
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Kaboom..
If you would like to pull your information from our databases.. let me know and we might be able to set something up :)
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Archain
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Posted - 2004.03.20 19:50:00 -
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Really interested in seeing where you can take this. I'll be watching your progress. Outstanding idea Kaboom22!
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.20 20:09:00 -
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Quote:
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If you need a PHP Programmer give me a hollar.
However I hate Visual Basic (C++ pwns all).
No single language owns all. If C++ did own all then why has C#(sharp) been released?
couse Microsoft is retarded!
AFAIK C# was made to operate with .NET?
"We brake for nobody"
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.03.20 23:05:00 -
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What i would LOVE is another tool that is very handy for PvP corporations and sort of that need messages get to their members:
An part of the corp management tool that pops up every time the computer starts up and gets info from a website, this info on the website is displayed in a msn messenger sized window and shows latest info like:
- We lost this and that region
- We lost x number of ship
- We killed this and that
- Be adviced when entering ...
etc etc.
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Adrastos
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Posted - 2004.03.21 00:38:00 -
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Firstly, id like to request that the mods make this a sticky until people stop posting, as it will make my life far easier (and stop blasphemous bumping).
rgr that, think we can afford to have this sticked for awhile. seems like it could be great tool, i love it when the community shows its creative side
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2004.03.21 01:25:00 -
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This tool sounds like it could be a really great thing to have. If we donate isk, does that speed up the development process?
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Silinary
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Posted - 2004.03.21 05:20:00 -
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So how's it comming?
I've had my ore calc that I've been modifying since it's creation since last october or so (and updated with caster after it's release) ... wondering how far you've gotten along on your full system. Judging from how long it took me for the little program I got now, I'd imagine for all you plan it would take quite some time... I also planned to expand mine (and am currently doing so ...but it's slow going ..will be ages till all is in it.
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Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.03.21 08:37:00 -
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I'm currently already working on a website which is supposed to end up doing what is suggested here.
It's nowhere near finished yet though, with the greatest problem being collecting the necessary content.
I'm currently workingo n adding a marketplace and an alliance database, but I need to find a way to get the content for both. I would love to have EVE DB help me out with the marketplace part. I already have a similar deal with the EVE-Guardian for my news section.
My site currently features a news section, a forum section( with private and public forums) and a registration section, where pilots can register, and corps can registrer as well.
Registered corps get their own private forum and I'm planning of building something that will automatically grant them their own website as well (ingame as well as outgame).
Prob is however that all this is taking a very long time to build since I'm building it all myself and I already have a 50 hour job besides....
So any help here would be appreciated.
oh, and Kaboom, I think I can find a way to rip the player info from the eve site (if the text poart is really text and not some image). I've done this before and once you know how it's not at all dificult.
Contact me via my site EVE-Central if you need more info. All you need to do is registrer and you wil be able to send me a Private Message.
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
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Gan Howorth
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Posted - 2004.03.21 22:37:00 -
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Although inventory tools sound useful..what mug's going to keep it up to date? Unless you can get something to datamine straight out of the game, which l guess is CCPdev stuff, its not going to be sustainable.
Suggestion: Materials logistics for manufacturing. Could be useful for those megacorp 24/7 factories.
Anyway, rest of it sounds great. Good luck.
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tigress
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:54:00 -
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Hehe, we in genco already have all this. In the ingame browser. Made by me ;).
(not the ships tho, but all those stuff didnt really matter for us to plan the corporation. We however got an whole item-database and such.
Will also be making a shopping page for outsiders (customers) for buying stuff from us, shoppingcart and all.
And no, its not for sale :)
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