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Aina Aideron Night Raven Task Force United Interests 30	Posted - 2015.11.26 19:08:22 - [1] - Quote I am struggling to find time for eve, maybe 2-3 hours a couple of times a week is what I can manage. This means that a subscription model doesn't work so good for me. So I started to wish that there was a model, where you could purchase day passes up front and then activate them when you logged in. If I could buy 10 day passes at one time for 10 euros, it would work better for me than a subscription based model. The day pass could be as little as 3 or 6 hours, I would accept that. At the moment I buy one month now and then. In total I would use a bit more on eve with the day pass alternative than the subscription based one. Skill points would only be trainable during the active time. There should be made some calculations on this, as I don't want a system that reduce the total income of ccp.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 9306	Posted - 2015.11.26 19:10:44 - [2] - Quote "Johnson! Someone has limited time for EVE and they don't want to pay what everyone else is paying. What do we do?" "I know, sir! Let's adjust our entire business model for this one individual!" "Good thinking, Johnson!" Smacks posterior "I knew it was a good idea bringing you over from Volkswagen!" Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Otso Bakarti Filial Pariahs 475	Posted - 2015.11.26 19:13:51 - [3] - Quote I'm sorry, if $15 USD a month is too much for you, you may want to rethink your employment situation and get a job that pays money, OR get some sort of education so you can qualify for such a job. If you're here claiming $15 USD a month is a lot of money, please remember this is the 21st Century and that's chicken feed...or go ahead and graduate from public school, go to college, and when you no longer are playing on your parent's dime, and computer...you can reassess for yourself what "a lot of money" really is. Most people spend ten times that amount for a good Friday night....four Friday nights a month. Paranoia strikes deep....
Aina Aideron Night Raven Task Force United Interests 30	Posted - 2015.11.26 19:15:46 - [4] - Quote It would be an addition to the subscription model and there should be made calculations if this would hurt the total income.
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 2730	Posted - 2015.11.26 19:41:24 - [5] - Quote Trust me, you are better off on a monthly subscription. If you have limited play time the last thing you really want is to not be skilling between sessions. If your skill queue ticks away for a month between your play sessions, you'll make lots of skill progress, and see lots of 'skill completed' each time you log in.
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 1110	Posted - 2015.11.26 19:51:13 - [6] - Quote Aina Aideron wrote: Skill points would only be trainable during the active time. What about outstanding market orders, contracts, industry jobs, PI, etc? I know not everyone is flush with disposable income, but a month sub is basically cheaper than going to see a single movie in the theater, provided you get at least a small beverage. "Help, I'm bored with missions!" http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Aina Aideron Night Raven Task Force United Interests 30	Posted - 2015.11.26 20:18:36 - [7] - Quote Otso Bakarti wrote: I might also add, over the past ten or more years while everyone else in the world has already almost doubled their prices for the same product, CCP has kept their price the same. Due to the ravages of inflation over that period of time which CCP can't avoid, it must sting a little bit to be THAT loyal to its customers. Pay the sub, and feel lucky about it.... ...which is what you are! True, they do have kept prices at the same level for a long while. Good points too with that it would cause difficulties with orders, contracts and similar. And missing out on a lot of skill points. So maybe a month now and then is still the best solution.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2429	Posted - 2015.11.26 22:42:55 - [8] - Quote Your day pass model would cut into their revenue quite a bit. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Caleb Seremshur Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance 699	Posted - 2015.11.27 00:16:41 - [9] - Quote To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
Johan Civire Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1029	Posted - 2015.11.27 07:16:00 - [10] - Quote Aina Aideron wrote: I am struggling to find time for eve, maybe 2-3 hours a couple of times a week is what I can manage. This means that a subscription model doesn't work so good for me. So I started to wish that there was a model, where you could purchase day passes up front and then activate them when you logged in. If I could buy 10 day passes at one time for 10 euros, it would work better for me than a subscription based model. The day pass could be as little as 3 or 6 hours, I would accept that. At the moment I buy one month now and then. In total I would use a bit more on eve with the day pass alternative than the subscription based one. Skill points would only be trainable during the active time. There should be made some calculations on this, as I don't want a system that reduce the total income of ccp. Silence PLEX post?

Chainsaw Plankton Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 2099	Posted - 2015.11.27 07:23:02 - [11] - Quote Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. I've spent $60 on 10 hour games. these days I've mostly just stopped buying games, although a steam sale catches me every now and then. @ChainsawPlankto
Tiddle Jr Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 653	Posted - 2015.11.27 08:34:19 - [12] - Quote I have similar scenario with only ability to play a couple of hours a day or even less. Still i do not worry much that most out of possible active playing i do miss. I'm making enough money during this time to buy PLEX once a month and extend my monthly subscription. Maybe if you would change your pay method you stop worry much.
Rumbless Not The Droids You Are Looking For Interstellar Expansion 7	Posted - 2015.11.27 12:21:16 - [13] - Quote EVE is the go to game if you dont have a huge amount of time to actually play. In other mmo's you only progress when playing/grinding, with EVE you can log off and still progress as your training queue will run whether you're playing the game or not. If isk is a problem, I would suggest you join a corp with a ship replacement program and/or buyback program if you mine a lot.
Avanda Redblade THR3SHOLD 16	Posted - 2015.11.27 12:45:31 - [14] - Quote Otso Bakarti wrote: ...(lots of offensive stuff)... Most people spend ten times that amount for a good Friday night....four Friday nights a month. "Most people"? Source please.
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 1939	Posted - 2015.11.27 13:19:43 - [15] - Quote Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. 15 hours gameplay for $15, i can complete call of duty in like 5-6 hours and that costs $60 Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic \| Angel Cartel \| Serpentis \|
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 234	Posted - 2015.11.27 13:27:41 - [16] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. 15 hours gameplay for $15, i can complete call of duty in like 5-6 hours and that costs $60 The price isn't much really, It's why I didn't mind spending -ú42 (a deal) for 6 months, even if I have mainly just done skill training online. I eat out sometimes on my own, after a few drinks with a few friends. I spend more than that on just the meal.
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 1940	Posted - 2015.11.27 13:29:51 - [17] - Quote Avvy wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. 15 hours gameplay for $15, i can complete call of duty in like 5-6 hours and that costs $60 The price isn't much really, It's why I didn't mind spending -ú42 (a deal) for 6 months, even if I have mainly just done skill training online. I eat out sometimes on my own, after a few drinks with a few friends. I spend more than that on just the meal. Yeah exactly, i couldnt even buy a pint and a pack of cigs for the price of a monthly sub, get far more entertainment from the sub than a pint Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic \| Angel Cartel \| Serpentis \|
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2407	Posted - 2015.11.27 14:47:28 - [18] - Quote Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. Dude, even if he\she plays only 7.5 hours over the whole month, it's still 2$/hours for entertainement. Renting movie 15 years ago amounted to more than that per hours FFS...
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2407	Posted - 2015.11.27 14:48:30 - [19] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. 15 hours gameplay for $15, i can complete call of duty in like 5-6 hours and that costs $60 Well games like COD also comes with unlimited multi player if you are into that. The shelf price of a game is for the total package after all, not just the part you want to take out of it...
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 1944	Posted - 2015.11.27 14:57:16 - [20] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. 15 hours gameplay for $15, i can complete call of duty in like 5-6 hours and that costs $60 Well games like COD also comes with unlimited multi player if you are into that. The shelf price of a game is for the total package after all, not just the part you want to take out of it... yeah if you have xboxlive or psn account which costs extra even then you have limited amount of maps unless they release a few extra maps for additional costs Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic \| Angel Cartel \| Serpentis \|

Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2407	Posted - 2015.11.27 15:16:57 - [21] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. 15 hours gameplay for $15, i can complete call of duty in like 5-6 hours and that costs $60 Well games like COD also comes with unlimited multi player if you are into that. The shelf price of a game is for the total package after all, not just the part you want to take out of it... yeah if you have xboxlive or psn account which costs extra even then you have limited amount of maps unless they release a few extra maps for additional costs Or you could game on a PC. The value is still there anyway. Clocking 60 hours on multiplayer game is not really a stretch imo. If you don't like the game well it's a bad purchase like any other purchase could be.
Lulu Lunette Akheteru Integrated Astrometrics Hedonistic Imperative 122	Posted - 2015.11.27 16:05:27 - [22] - Quote Chainsaw Plankton wrote: Caleb Seremshur wrote: To address some detractors - a more inclusive model like freemium wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for the game And $15 a month might seem expensive when you get less than 15 hours of gameplay a month, which allegedly the case here. I've spent $60 on 10 hour games. these days I've mostly just stopped buying games, although a steam sale catches me every now and then. So much truth. I get a lot of miles out of my Eve sub. @lunettelulu7
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 6472	Posted - 2015.11.27 17:55:58 - [23] - Quote Thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Rivr Luzade Kenshin. DARKNESS. 2117	Posted - 2015.11.27 19:29:06 - [24] - Quote With these days passes, you obviously also only train skills for the time that you have an active subscription, right? UI Improvement Collective My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Zimmer Jones Aliastra Gallente Federation 410	Posted - 2015.11.27 20:06:00 - [25] - Quote No, not even if all your industry, pi and other passive forms of income were paused while you are not subbed. Month long subs give you incentive to log in and play, and get your moneys worth. Ages ago the skill system and subs were abused. You could sub, skill up, and at the end of the sub set a reeeeally long skill and unsub. Your sp would continue to be applied to your long skill and you could re sub and find you have a skill you did not pay a sub for. Time to do the same for industry, and markets for that matter. The cake is not a lie. Unfortunately, the fork is a parallel construction.


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