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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:29:00 -
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Vernn wrote:Andski wrote:I guess I worded it wrong, but yeah, crying about unfairness in EVE Online, a game centered in a hyper-capitalistic dog-eat-dog universe, is silly. No, i'm not crying about general unfairness in all of eve. I am commenting on a very specific situation that defies logic. Follow me here. I get the fact that eve is not a carebear game. I do. I am not crying about being blown up. It happens. I am not complaining about the fact that people can suicide gank. If someone wrongs you bad enough you should be able to suicide gank, with a real consequence. My argument simply is that someone with a -10 rating should not be allowed to kill the same person over and over again in the same spot in high sec. Yes, I get it. The very nature of eve dictates that you're never truly safe anywhere, and I appreciate the heart pounding moments that can bring to the game. I am not against suicide ganking. I am against a player with a -10 security rating killing the same people in the same spot over and over again in high sec without any penalty other than losing a ship with almost no value. I think its a pretty narrow and reasonable complaint.
you understand that the fact that they are in high sec with -10 sec status means that you and anyone else can attack them without getting concorded, right? how is that not enough for you? |
M5 Tuttle
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:33:00 -
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Vernn wrote:This apparently is a pointless discussion. This is a game, its supposed to be fun. I don't consider someone attacking me repeatedly with no consequence to them to be fun.
Clearly there are greener pastures for me elsewhere.
please do. I have never suicide ganked since i've been playing eve, but things like that are the reason i play it instead of the other mmo's. i would be very upset if enough people who were unable to adapt to game mechanics like yourself were to complain enough that CCP made it impossible to do. |
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:34:00 -
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Vernn wrote:
1) I can't attack them when they are sitting in a station.
2) Why would I attack them if they are flying a kestrel? The bullets I would shoot could potentially be worth more than their ship. They are griefers. They will not risk anything real. Thats why they do what they do. They are taking advantage of the games mechanics to inflict harm to others. If they had to pay a real price for what they were doing, they wouldn't do it.
1) how are they killing you from the station?
2) they should be easy to kill then. |
M5 Tuttle
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:44:00 -
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I used to play WoW in college back before the first expansion. Back then you could get a nice team of about 5-10 skilled players and camp Blackrock Mountain on weeknights. We'd kill people repeatedly as they trickled in trying to make it to their raids. We'd always have a priest so that we could constantly mind control people into the lava so that they'd have to run all the way back up the chains if they wanted to make it to Blackrock Spire. It was possible to make people HOURS late for their raids. The best was when we would find main tanks, because we know if we could keep him from getting to the instance we could keep their entire raid from starting.
Anyway, **** like this was eliminated with flying mounts and the ability to warp around to instances. This is why I stopped playing it. |
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:48:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Vernn wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Vernn wrote:
I'm still out roughly 20 million and by your plan 20 hours of game time. Even if I did kill him he would be out what? A kestrel?
Who's getting the short end of that deal?
Where the hell do you buy ammo? Even using the most expensive ammo I can find on the local market, I could fire over 1000 volleys before reaching 20M. And that is a lot of dead Kestrals. It was a metaphor. The point is that no matter what goes down the griefer is the one coming out ahead. WAY WAY WAY ahead. The game gives him the power. Not a metaphor. maybe you meant hyperbole... but it was a bad one at that as it was terribly invalid. And he isn't bloody griefing!
they don't make EE majors take writing classes. |
M5 Tuttle
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:56:00 -
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Vernn wrote:
So why is the ganker ganking then? Why does he do it? If its not griefing then that means he has some good reason. If not then its griefing. Why can't you see that?
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M5 Tuttle
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:24:00 -
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Vernn wrote:
More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.
1) Be unable to cope with game mechanics.
2) Go on forums and complain.
3) Everyone explains how you could just play a little differently (mine elsewhere, set a trap for gankers, fight back, find another source of income until hulkageddon is over)
4) Refuse to change your position, ignore their advice and explanations, say the same thing over and over again.
5) Eventually they get pissed off at your intransigence and start calling you names.
6) Now you congratulate them on losing the debate because they resorted to name calling.
7) ???
8) Profit.
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M5 Tuttle
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Posted - 2011.12.13 06:21:00 -
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guise i think he is serious, actually. makes me sad to be an engineer, honestly. |
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