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CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp. Phoebe Freeport Republic
242
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Posted - 2015.12.02 17:51:05 -
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Budrick3 wrote:I enjoyed the official site, but when they updated it, I found it frustrating to navigate and never used it again.
The close of the site makes it feel like eve is intact dying.
Other than the fittings section going to absolute garbage over the last few years, the update is pretty much what killed BC IMO. Almost their entire user base hated it, and were very vocal about it on their forums. All the mods did was tell them to stop complaining and deal with it, we spent hours and hours on it, you're all just butthurt and can't deal with change, etc etc. I used to be a daily visitor, but completely stopped using the site within a month of the update launching.
The site closing will have literally zero impact on Eve. BC hasn't been relevant in any significant way for at least a couple of years. EVEMon will find a home so that shouldn't be a concern. |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
450
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Posted - 2015.12.02 17:57:06 -
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I keep hearing about these theoretically superior alternatives but have yet to see them mentioned by name. |
Nalia White
Tencus
144
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Posted - 2015.12.02 19:06:03 -
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zkillboard is the one i use to check things. it is the fastest.
eve-kill for me has the best statistics (month based)
battleclinic had one thing going for them and which made it stand out: the point system was very good and balanced for blob players and soloers, the rest was always kinda subpar to the other 2 killboards especialy since the update... but i would still visit the site very often because of the point system there so i am still a bit sad it will be gone.
Thanks for the service guys. I had problems with updating my killboard twice or so and when i put it up on the forums you would get a quick answer. and considering it were only 2 guys doing the fixes it went really fast.
Good health to you and i hope you took some experience with you form that project that will benefit you elsewhere in life!
salute o7 |
Raknarg Valklear
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.02 19:42:27 -
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Ah hope it still works need to post one last l4 mission lord passive drake. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
489
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Posted - 2015.12.02 21:11:38 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I have visited Battleclinic at least twice a week since I started playing, and google searches would always turn up Battleclinic fits (many of which weren't actually horrible). I never understood the hate people had for it, seemed highly irrational to me, lots of good info there for people who like to tinker with fitting and such.
RIP BC.
Hate is the default setting for a large segment of EvE "players." |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
764
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Posted - 2015.12.02 21:32:16 -
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Eh I had to stop browsing BC when they updated it and it became unusable for me for some reason.
It was a useful place to look at fits if you had half a brain and knew how to sort through the trash but would no longer work for me after the big revamp they did about a year ago - I've heard the same from others. That was a bad idea. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1701
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Posted - 2015.12.02 23:51:38 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I have visited Battleclinic at least twice a week since I started playing, and google searches would always turn up Battleclinic fits (many of which weren't actually horrible). I never understood the hate people had for it, seemed highly irrational to me, lots of good info there for people who like to tinker with fitting and such.
RIP BC. Hate is the default setting for a large segment of EvE "players."
It is not actually hate. it is some sort of hipster EPEEN, they are basically saying look at my superior fitting skills compared to what the unwashed masses post up on battleclinic.
In reality most people fitting a ship they are unfamiliar with will look through various online linked fits, chuckle at the more ridiculous ones steal a few good ideas from others and move on. Aside from which it's always been possible to exclude Battleclinic from google searches if they annoy you.
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Lykouleon
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1671
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Posted - 2015.12.03 00:08:29 -
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RIP pre-nerf Drake fits. I will miss thee.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
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Kaska Iskalar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.12.03 00:51:38 -
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Even though I don't use it, it sucks to see it go. It's been around for as long as I can remember. |
Sakkie Briel
The Dutch East India Company Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2015.12.03 13:53:58 -
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Wow, there she goes... just like that :(
Thanks for the good site, enjoyed crapping on fits and making stupid ones myself!
Thanks for the devs for hosting the site for so long.
Will there be a kill mail for this event? |
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Richard TheLordOfDance
New Eden Special Operations Force
15
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Posted - 2015.12.03 15:01:16 -
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Battleclinic was always my first stop when I needed to fit a ship I never flown before even after the infamous update, these days I know enough to fit the ships myself but I owe it all to the fits I found over there. I'm sad to see it go and wish all people involved good luck in the future! |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1345
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Posted - 2015.12.03 15:21:24 -
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Kuronaga wrote:I keep hearing about these theoretically superior alternatives but have yet to see them mentioned by name.
There are none, part of what made BC fitting posts good was the not so uncommon detailed description of what the fit did and what to engage/not to engage, aswell as a lively comment section for honourable spacenerds to discuss alternatives and fixes to the fit in question.
Complaints were mainly launched by people who didn't know you can show only fits for the current expansion, or that you can sort by ranking. Or that lolfits actually ended up downvoted to oblivion or simply locked.
It even had a bunch of trendy fits posted before they became normal in space, like hulltanked navy brutixes or active tanked dualweb railphobos all the way from *how do I rifter*-posts.
Sad to see it go, even in light of the botched UI rework. |
Soldarius
O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore
1435
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Posted - 2015.12.03 15:33:17 -
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F.
We need to find a new home for EveMon. Not 2 days ago I was telling a newbro that he should get EveMon and use it to decide how he wants to remap for his expected skill training over the next year.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Daerrol
Death By Design Did he say Jump
273
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Posted - 2015.12.03 16:06:54 -
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Bad BC fits still usually had medium guns on medium ships. o7 BC and Ty for helping me graduate l2 missions |
Iam Widdershins
Puppies and Christmas
897
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Posted - 2015.12.03 16:30:58 -
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BC forum was the best forum. Rest in peace.
Lobbying for your right to delete your signature
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Boci
Ubiquitous Hurt The WeHurt Initiative
52
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Posted - 2015.12.03 17:44:48 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:On behalf of the EVEMon Dev Team (all those that predated me and the current), I want to express our gratitude to SghnDubh and MrCue (personally I owe them alot) for their hospitality and support throughout the years. Our gratitude also goes to all the BC moderators and the ppl that were behind the scenes.
As of what will become of EVEMon, that is still unknown. I'm evaluating all options but my main concern is that hosting a website (presentation, forums, dev infrastructures) is currently out of the question due to my financial situation. I'm sure that EVEMon will still be continued and distributed via BitBucket though.
If anyone out there has the means to provide EVEMon a home, I'm more than willing to discuss it.
Check your mail space friend, EOC.Tv is willing to help with Evemon. Ps: phone formatting sucks. Boci
http://www.twitch.tv/bociwen - Newbie Friendly Q&A, Terrible Solo PvP
@BociSammiches
UHURT's Link Guy
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1269
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Posted - 2015.12.03 19:18:20 -
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Bummer. I was usnig BC before Eve existed for Freelancer.
Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
52886
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Posted - 2015.12.03 19:32:37 -
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Despite what some have stated, this is indeed sad news.
For as long as I can remember, BattleClinic has always been the first go-to site when doing fit ups on new ships. It was a good site and the fit ups were great to use as a basic guide. BC went hand in hand with EFT which allowed players the ability to customize and tweak those fit ups for specific usage to their skill level.
Yes, sad news indeed.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
532
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Posted - 2015.12.03 21:36:57 -
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I will miss your 5 year outdated loadouts Battleclinc, you will be sorely missed.
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9614
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Posted - 2015.12.03 21:53:01 -
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People finally thinking for themselves? Finally figured out that poaching shitfits ain't going to help their game? That there are better third party forums and better killboards (if you are in to that crap)?
BC had a good run, but good riddance, in my opinion.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Evasive Shadow Assassin
Liberty Storm
10
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Posted - 2015.12.03 22:46:49 -
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Leo Raage wrote:Yes, it is real.Just lookup their forums. BattleClinic ForumsBattleclinic was a partner for a long time, for me and for many. I want to explicitly mention my gratitude for the honorable commitment of SghnDubh and MrCue, who dedicated their hours and hands. They deserve a glorious downfall. They deserve an Epitaph, An Epitaph written by EVE. I will sponsor any good memorial event ideas, Worst case, I'll post my own Memorial OP results. P.S. : I'm not a particularly wealthy player. I know that many mighty leaders of many mighty corporations know the importance of BattleClinic's place in a capsuleer's life.I am not asking for help, I'm asking for a show of respect. Honor thy fallen.Leo Raage, Signing out. PLEASE leave a ''Like'', or a reply. Maybe It'll get to CCP'S trending trends.
battleclinic was a cess pit of trolling and super bad ship fits, period. Good riddance |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1787
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Posted - 2015.12.03 23:25:20 -
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Soldarius wrote:F.
We need to find a new home for EveMon. Not 2 days ago I was telling a newbro that he should get EveMon and use it to decide how he wants to remap for his expected skill training over the next year.
Please Bob, the God of wormhole dwellers and the enlightened, finally eliminate attributes and remaps so that no one EVER has to give this advice to a newbro again!
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
1134
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:04:55 -
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I knew Battleclinic before it was associated with EvE, that's the one I miss.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Leo Raage
Rise of Adarxx
17
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Posted - 2015.12.04 01:00:44 -
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Meh. At least I tried.
I'm sad to witness the bitterness in almost all your farewells.
Like BC was a thorn in your side.
It's not about the shitfits, It's about the principle.
BC, I humbly salute you, please forgive the sourness of the bitters.
Leo, Signing out. |
Valkin Mordirc
1720
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Posted - 2015.12.04 05:56:58 -
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Leo Raage wrote:Meh. At least I tried.
I'm sad to witness the bitterness in almost all your farewells.
Like BC was a thorn in your side.
It's not about the shitfits, It's about the principle.
BC, I humbly salute you, please forgive the sourness of the bitters.
Leo, Signing out.
It's not that, Old BC used to have a decent fitting tool, and KB. With a fair bit of Spacenerd who knew what was shitfit and what wasn't and would let people know what was shitfit and if wasn't a complete shitfit would tell people how to make the fit better.
The new one, was harder to navigate, you could only search for fits that include all fits, or the only recent patch. So if you wanted to Find a Gila fit after it's recent patch, you would also get ALL the pre-buffed Gila's as well. Making it even harder to find the right one.
Also the Killboard after the update at some point thought I was in Marmite. I have never been in Marmite.
So yeah, bitter that a semi-decent site, when from semi-decent, to complete trash. Also Bitter that they rather quit than improve. But hey, they probably didn't get alot of money from the site, and have RL **** to attend to.
#DeleteTheWeak
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erg cz
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
378
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Posted - 2015.12.04 08:33:05 -
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After redesign Battleclinic became unusable anyway. I used to check " fits from killboard, most popular among top players" feature, but it was entirely missing after redesign made few years ago.
Absolutely free trial extension. Just click the link and get your extra 2 weeks of Eve for free!
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Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
194
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Posted - 2015.12.04 13:57:42 -
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Love and respect to BC. Thank you for all the service you provided to the EvE community.
07 |
Squizz Caphinator
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
178
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Posted - 2015.12.04 14:37:16 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:On behalf of the EVEMon Dev Team (all those that predated me and the current), I want to express our gratitude to SghnDubh and MrCue (personally I owe them alot) for their hospitality and support throughout the years. Our gratitude also goes to all the BC moderators and the ppl that were behind the scenes.
As of what will become of EVEMon, that is still unknown. I'm evaluating all options but my main concern is that hosting a website (presentation, forums, dev infrastructures) is currently out of the question due to my financial situation. I'm sure that EVEMon will still be continued and distributed via BitBucket though.
If anyone out there has the means to provide EVEMon a home, I'm more than willing to discuss it.
I would be happy to work with you to provide EVEMon a home. It's the least I can do to help continue to provide such an awesome tool for the community.
Various projects I enjoy putting my free time into:
http://zkillboard.com | http://evewho.com | http://skillq.net
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Bagatur I
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2015.12.04 15:18:08 -
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I dont get people shitting on BC fits. Every fit, no matter where you get it from, is a suggestion - no more and no less. Besides, BC only provided a platform to share those fits. Players like us posted them. Hate EVE players, not BC. |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
453
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Posted - 2015.12.04 17:46:39 -
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So what I'm hearing is we now need an alternative source for fittings, then?
I mean the killboard was nice but I always used BC like a fitting lab for ideas. |
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