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Def Antares	Posted - 2007.01.12 10:58:00 - [1] Which one, what would you say, if both are solo / small Gang fitted would have the upper hand. I currently fly a Rokh very well, but I was thinking of getting into an Eos ... So I really would like to hear a generaly CS vs BS opinion, and a Rokh vs all or Eos vs All specific optinion Thanks lads.
X99 Z990	Posted - 2007.01.12 11:12:00 - [2] I never like these hypothetical scenarios because if they just locked eachother and hit all their damage / tank modules the battleship would usually win. Theres lots of ways a command ship could beat a battleship though... probably more ways a battleship could beat a command ship though so im gonna go with. Battleship.
PuppetmasterX Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.12 11:16:00 - [3] I fly EOS and i don't think there are a lot of Battleships that could break it's tank solo.
X99 Z990	Posted - 2007.01.12 11:19:00 - [4] And the EOS can fit 5 OGRE IIs and 5 Heavy Ecm drones. Both would give a BS big problems.
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.01.12 11:27:00 - [5] Edited by: dalman on 12/01/2007 11:27:09 It's very simple. A solo fitted commandship vs a solo fitted battleship: the battleship will always win. (edit - assuming both ships are set up in the same manner. Ofc we could for example have a nano-sleipnir that a slow BS can't hurt etc) Otherwise the BS pilot just ****s @ EVE. But it isn't very common that you get such a thing as a "perfect 1vs1". When you set up for solo playing, you generally want something versatile. And the commandship then have alot of pros to consider. Like: More agile - if you need to run cause you get jumped or something, you'll warp faster (unless a nano-BS ofc). Much better locktime - the slow lock-time of a BS will often leave you cursing a target that warped before you had it locked. With a commandship, you'll catch more ppl. Medium guns - better tracking makes it easier to deal with smaller targets etc. The same kinda goes for small gangs. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
The Shin	Posted - 2007.01.12 14:17:00 - [6] Its realy a hard question to say a CS vs a BS. as the CS can be a sniper vulture with crapp dmg. or an Eos with its crazy DPS adn tank. or a absolution that hurts like ****. And the BS can be a blasterthron with 7x neutron II and dual repped with injector. or a t1 cruise raven with crapp DPS. In general, if both fully t2 fitted.. ill go for a damage dealing BS, if you get in range that is. Versitality though ill go for a CS. example: A t2 neutron blasterthrons dmg isnt matched at many places. and a blasterohks passive tank is VERY hard to break solo. nontheless hard in a CS. An blaster astarte can put up lots of DPS. but a vulture can tank like a god, same to the eos (put if Nosed its pretty doomed if not Nosing / injecting self).. Short: its a relative question
Kay Rissa The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.12 15:45:00 - [7] I would say it depends what CS against what BS...if the BS deals explosive damage and on CS it's a weak point, then definetly BS would win. Proud member of the Priory ps: i dont like to kill innocent ppl, so if i killed u, u rnt innocent
Razer Morphis Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.12 15:55:00 - [8] CS. Without a doubt. Unless it's a noob CS pilot versus a good BS pilot. That's the only way the BS could possibly win. Still, it wouldn't be easy. Seems a lot of posts on this thread are from BS pilots who only have a vague idea of what a CS can do. :P ---------------------- Here is some "EVE related content": FIX MY DAMN FORUM AVATAR PIC.
Diana Merris Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.12 15:56:00 - [9] The battleship wins because it has heavy Nos.
Pottsey Gallente Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.01.12 16:54:00 - [10] Unless its passive tanked then its impossible for the battleship to win. Passive shield tanking guide click here

Atomic Mayhem Morticus Impendium	Posted - 2007.01.12 17:17:00 - [11] It all comes down to the skills and experience of the pilots
Nicholai Thomasovich Caldari Acerbus Vindictum	Posted - 2007.01.12 17:24:00 - [12] Originally by: Razer Morphis CS. Without a doubt. Unless it's a noob CS pilot versus a good BS pilot. That's the only way the BS could possibly win. Still, it wouldn't be easy. Seems a lot of posts on this thread are from BS pilots who only have a vague idea of what a CS can do. :P Is there really such a thing as a "noob" CS pilot? By the time you've got all those skills done...
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2007.01.12 17:32:00 - [13] Well I have only pvped on test server so my oppion my not be very valid, but I would say CS. Reasons: Most CS pilots will be better skilled compared to the BS pilot in "most" cases. CS are much more versitile. If they have some knowledge of what they are doing or know what who is in the area they will be ready to take it down. When I battled a guy on test server a guy could not kill my sleipnir with any of the Gal BS's. However, I knew what ship he would be using no ECM was used. When I went against the Meg and the Hyperion I had an active tank and managed to kill him right about the time I ran out of cap and HP where falling fast. Agint the Domi I figured he would be Nosing me so I went with a passive tank and he didn't last. Again this was on test server, and I don't PVP much so take what you will from what I have said. Dynamic Endeavors is now Recuiting.!! Contact me in game for deatails about the corp. Mostly a PvE corp, with Jump clones avaiale in Empire and 0.0.
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2007.01.12 17:34:00 - [14] Edited by: Jet Collins on 12/01/2007 17:31:09 Originally by: Nicholai Thomasovich Originally by: Razer Morphis CS. Without a doubt. Unless it's a noob CS pilot versus a good BS pilot. That's the only way the BS could possibly win. Still, it wouldn't be easy. Seems a lot of posts on this thread are from BS pilots who only have a vague idea of what a CS can do. :P Is there really such a thing as a "noob" CS pilot? By the time you've got all those skills done... I would say yes people see the stats and train soloy to get in one and than don't have very good support skills. However I'm guessing it is not very common. There are probably far more CS pilots that have well over 30mil SP or over 45mil like myself. But there are also Noob pvp players like myself . Dynamic Endeavors is now Recuiting.!! Contact me in game for deatails about the corp. Mostly a PvE corp, with Jump clones avaiale in Empire and 0.0.
Def Antares	Posted - 2007.01.12 18:39:00 - [15] Edited by: Def Antares on 12/01/2007 18:35:37 thanks guys. after i heard a lot of general BS vs CS opinions (and very good statements, thanks), i'd be glad to hear something more specific. as i said, i can fly a rokh very good (noob BS pilot arguments dont count). either with blasters or rails. since the price tag is ABOUT the same as the Eos, and i also have all skills to fly the eos (armour tank, blasters, drones) (of course except the CS specific skills). using quickfit, the eos deals way more dps than the rokh, and i thought it was very versatile, since you could either just jam, or deal more damage, with drones. on the other hand a rokh has a lot more HPs ... well ... alone from quickfit i'd say an Eos is better, but it doesnt take into account complicated stuff like heavy nos ... do you think its worth the 2 month training for it, if you could just fly a rokh?
Brucce Minmatar PAX Interstellar Services Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.12 18:44:00 - [16] ive never lost to any BS, in my sleipnir Brucce
Nicholai Thomasovich Caldari Acerbus Vindictum	Posted - 2007.01.12 18:55:00 - [17] Edited by: Nicholai Thomasovich on 12/01/2007 18:51:38 Originally by: Def Antares Edited by: Def Antares on 12/01/2007 18:35:37 thanks guys. after i heard a lot of general BS vs CS opinions (and very good statements, thanks), i'd be glad to hear something more specific. as i said, i can fly a rokh very good (noob BS pilot arguments dont count). either with blasters or rails. since the price tag is ABOUT the same as the Eos, and i also have all skills to fly the eos (armour tank, blasters, drones) (of course except the CS specific skills). using quickfit, the eos deals way more dps than the rokh, and i thought it was very versatile, since you could either just jam, or deal more damage, with drones. on the other hand a rokh has a lot more HPs ... well ... alone from quickfit i'd say an Eos is better, but it doesnt take into account complicated stuff like heavy nos ... do you think its worth the 2 month training for it, if you could just fly a rokh? The reason you haven't gotten a specific answer is because there isn't one. There is no "best" ship. You've gotten the correct answers - there are situations the Astarte can defeat a battleship in, and situations a battleship can defeat an Astarte in. It's a pointless question, really. At the end of the day, every ship has it's strengths and weaknesses.
wierchas noobhunter Caldari Kemono.	Posted - 2007.01.12 19:01:00 - [18] newer lost my astarte to any bs ... i think it comes to skills tbh Join 'Turby' channel ingame. Bring pie
Jet Max Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.12 19:51:00 - [19] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter newer lost my astarte to any bs ... i think it comes to skills tbh I never lost assault frig to any BS either, i only used it for lvl 3 missions so you right, i think it comes to skills...
LaCoHa The Carebear Stare Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.12 20:01:00 - [20] I use to fly an EOS almsot exclusively.. got lots of kills, lots of pods, and it was a blast. Then i ran into a multiple nos raven. Thats where the dream ended. I was doing plenty of damage, but after the Nos cleaned me out (yes i was injecting, but that doesnt last forever) I was done. good fight. But as it is... Multiple nos = dead CS. :(

Nicholai Thomasovich Caldari Acerbus Vindictum	Posted - 2007.01.12 20:28:00 - [21] Heh, hey there Laco. Long time.
Kiska Myau	Posted - 2007.01.12 20:59:00 - [22] dual repped cap injected blasterthron would kill a cs.... considering the same skills t2 cruise missile, cap injected raven with XL shield booster and 2 heavy nos = tricky it all depends who deals what damage...
Katrina Coreli Soar Angelic	Posted - 2007.01.12 21:12:00 - [23] Originally by: Nicholai Thomasovich Originally by: Razer Morphis CS. Without a doubt. Unless it's a noob CS pilot versus a good BS pilot. That's the only way the BS could possibly win. Still, it wouldn't be easy. Seems a lot of posts on this thread are from BS pilots who only have a vague idea of what a CS can do. :P Is there really such a thing as a "noob" CS pilot? By the time you've got all those skills done... Let me introduce you to eBay
Nicholai Thomasovich Caldari Acerbus Vindictum	Posted - 2007.01.12 21:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Katrina Coreli Let me introduce you to eBay
wierchas noobhunter Caldari Kemono.	Posted - 2007.01.12 21:14:00 - [25] Originally by: Jet Max Originally by: wierchas noobhunter newer lost my astarte to any bs ... i think it comes to skills tbh I never lost assault frig to any BS either, i only used it for lvl 3 missions so you right, i think it comes to skills... well i only pvp u only carebear fell teh difernce ? Join 'Turby' channel ingame. Bring pie
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.12 21:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Katrina Coreli Originally by: Nicholai Thomasovich Originally by: Razer Morphis CS. Without a doubt. Unless it's a noob CS pilot versus a good BS pilot. That's the only way the BS could possibly win. Still, it wouldn't be easy. Seems a lot of posts on this thread are from BS pilots who only have a vague idea of what a CS can do. :P Is there really such a thing as a "noob" CS pilot? By the time you've got all those skills done... Let me introduce you to eBay Do it the legal way ... GTC + Sales forum _______ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.01.12 21:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Diana Merris The battleship wins because it has heavy Nos. sad but true. A command ship would have to be 100% passive otherwise.
Vicious Phoenix	Posted - 2007.01.12 22:08:00 - [28] Originally by: Audri Fisher Originally by: Diana Merris The battleship wins because it has heavy Nos. sad but true. A command ship would have to be 100% passive otherwise. The fun part is the tier 3 BS. No room for nos(Assuming they are fit to kill things and not nos/weak DPS) Then the command ship will win. But I agree if the BS has nos the CS will lose. BS's HP buffer takes too long to chew through. CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too.
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.12 22:38:00 - [29] Edited by: Benglada on 12/01/2007 22:36:16 Other then an EOS, i would never think twice about engaging a cs in my megathron... edit: As in, i would do it instantly. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends. Sig By Ortos
Sadao Minmatar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.12 22:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Benglada Edited by: Benglada on 12/01/2007 22:36:16 Other then an EOS, i would never think twice about engaging a cs in my megathron... edit: As in, i would do it instantly. QFT! Megathron will make short work of any command ships, FAST! ---



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