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Captain Avecini
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Posted - 2007.01.14 19:11:00 -
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Hi,
Ok so i don't really want to discuss this too much but apparently leaving a corp for the sole reason of avoiding a war and then joining another corp is an exploit. i think this is right but could do with a link to somewhere where a dec has stated it to prove it. i know it rarely gets enforced cos u can't prove it but anyone got any links?
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Strong Badd
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Strong Badd on 14/01/2007 20:04:31 Leaving a corp and joining a new one isn't an exploit afaik. The exploit is moving all the members of the dec'd corp, except for one alt to hold the corp, to a new corp. That way no one is at war except for the alt that is always logged off. After the dec is dropped everyone usually moves back to the old corp.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:21:00 -
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Cowardly yes but not an exploit Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin Marcus Thinks Eve who knew!? |

Captain Avecini
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Strong Badd Edited by: Strong Badd on 14/01/2007 20:04:31 Leaving a corp and joining a new one isn't an exploit afaik. The exploit is moving all the members of the dec'd corp, except for one alt to hold the corp, to a new corp. That way no one is at war except for the alt that is always logged off. After the dec is dropped everyone usually moves back to the old corp.
that seems to make sense. so if someone had a 2 man corp. i dec'd them, then they left and made another 2 man corp. would that be exploiting do u think?
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Plaetean
Remnants of Times olde
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Avecini
Originally by: Strong Badd Edited by: Strong Badd on 14/01/2007 20:04:31 Leaving a corp and joining a new one isn't an exploit afaik. The exploit is moving all the members of the dec'd corp, except for one alt to hold the corp, to a new corp. That way no one is at war except for the alt that is always logged off. After the dec is dropped everyone usually moves back to the old corp.
that seems to make sense. so if someone had a 2 man corp. i dec'd them, then they left and made another 2 man corp. would that be exploiting do u think?
Well you're disbanding the corp and reforming it to avoid the war dec, I'd say yes.
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Commander Predator
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Posted - 2007.12.18 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Predator on 18/12/2007 02:21:52 i left a corp, and we were at war. now im not leaving to avoid it or anything, i actuallyloved fighting it but i just didnt agree with what was going on in the corp...anyhow, am i still at war with the corporation for 24 hours or am i now immediatley a non target?
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Tellenta
Gallente White-Noise Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.12.18 02:28:00 -
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I think it has to happen more than once for it to be an exploit.. not sure though never had people disband their corp over a war dec. usually if they dont want to fight they stay docked, or move away. Is this a two man corporation that your trying to kick around by chance?
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Commander Predator
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Posted - 2007.12.18 02:29:00 -
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it has nothing to do with getting away from the war. its really just cause i dont like what the corp is doing, they are mercs and decced us, and it was a big alliance so...i just want to know if they can still attack me
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Tellenta
Gallente White-Noise Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.12.18 02:41:00 -
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No thats not an exploit, leaving a corp because the corp sucks for <pick a reason> is fine. Even if its at war. I thought you ment a corp closing down moving its members to another corp when wardecced, waiting till the corp the moved to is wardecced and switching corp again rinse repeat as needed which is an exploit i believe
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Commander Predator
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Posted - 2007.12.18 02:47:00 -
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still want to know if they can attack me or not now that im not in my old corporation
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.12.18 04:23:00 -
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it is not an exploit to leave and join a different corp, I KNOW this because i have petitioned farmers who do this all the time and all i get back is that its not an exploit.
I think it should be. -------------
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2007.12.18 04:58:00 -
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People never check if your out of dock range in poorly fitted ships in hub systems.
I'd try that.
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Mastari Doofoff
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.18 05:38:00 -
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Just think coward then you will have an answer to your question, its not a question of exploit, its a question of having the sack to fight. If they run, havent you already won?
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Maximada
Minmatar eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.18 06:05:00 -
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corp creation price should be inline if not more than the cost of a wardec.......problem solved?
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Rawrior
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.12.18 08:49:00 -
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...Cowering is bad pred! BAAADD!!! 
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.12.18 17:06:00 -
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There are 2 myths in Eve that seem to be eternally perpetuated with absolutely zero proof confirming the myths and a plethora of evidence to disprove the myths.
It is not an exploit to join/create a new corp to avoid war. How do I know this? We have dec'd tons of people who joined/created a new corp thinking that would stop us from persuing them.
Also, it's not considered griefing or against CCP's rules to dec the new corps that you run to.
Those same people also petitioned us for griefing and were told, "Just as you can run from corp to corp they can dec each new corp." I even petitioned it myself for clarification and was told the exact same thing.
In order for either to be an exploit or against CCP's rules, first, you would need to have such rules listed, but they are not. It's fair game to dec who you want for whatever reason you want.
If jumping corps to avoid war was an exploit, which it isn't, how would you prove that's the reason they jumped ship? It's something that is not quantifiable by any means really. The person can give a multitude of reasons for leaving or starting a new corp.
Most people might think of corp jumping as cowardly though. My only beef with it is that a person can flip flop between corps immediately if they have no roles assigned. Yet it takes 48 hours to get a war dec active.
I think a fair solution would be to require the person to stay in any corp they join/default to for 1 week.
In reality, you can create several corps with alts, join them on your main with no roles assigned and just pop in and out of each one. If you get a few friends to do the same, you can have say 6 corps to bounce between and since each corp is limited to 3 war decs outgoing, you're basically safe.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2007.12.18 19:18:00 -
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Think guys, how would CCP possibly enforce this? Forcibly move you back to a corp you don't want to be in?
I can just imagine how much fun the boards would be if CCP was locking people into their current situation and not letting them change corporations :p
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