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Ageanal Olerie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.14 07:55:04 -
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I would like to see a Rap Sheet of any player's criminal activity. At least over the last year (if not indefinatley, but I suppose everyone deserves a chance to start a new life).
This would be visible on any player's character sheet and would show a count of criminal behaviors (Things that set one's suspect or criminal flag) that they've engaged in.
For instance:
- Attacked a pilot : # (Last offense : date)
- Destroyed a pilot's ship: # (Last offense : date)
- Destroyed a pilot's pod: # (Last offense : date)
- Stole from a pilot's container: # (Last offense : date)
And whatever other detailed stats on player criminal actions can be captured.
Since security status can be improved, it would be good for other players to see what sort of character we're dealing with.
For some this will be a badge of honor.
The 2nd (perhaps more controversial) part of this idea is Criminal Associations.
Since some players like to hide their criminal behaviors on alts, perhaps 'clean' characters should have a 'Known Criminal Associations' spot on their character sheet, which will list numbers only.
- For same-account Alts they would be 1st Order criminal associations.
- For those in the same player Corporation or Alliance it would be 2nd Order Criminal Associations.
- For those (if possible to track) who that toon appears to associate with frequently (frequent fleeting with, frequent chatting with, frequent trading, etc...) they would be 3rd order criminal associations. Obviously there would need to be a way to define 'frequently'.
I'd put those who log in from the same IP as a criminal association in 2nd order (though this could impugn people who happen to live in the same house or perhaps dorm, etc..)
And for those who have a long rap sheet of suicide ganking miners, haulers, industrials, give them the label "Known Terrorist". 
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4015
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Posted - 2015.12.14 12:45:04 -
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And why do you think you should be able to know who anyone' alts are without an API key?
Is looking at zkill really too much effort for you? It's safe to assume that anyone who's ever managed to kill anything, or has ever visited space outside of highsec, is going to have a huge rap sheet. What, exactly, is it supposed to prove that a killboard doesn't? Do you need to know about every time I repaired a fleetmate in lowsec? |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
3610
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Posted - 2015.12.14 12:46:33 -
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Ageanal Olerie wrote:For instance:
- Attacked a pilot : # (Last offense : date)
- Destroyed a pilot's ship: # (Last offense : date)
- Destroyed a pilot's pod: # (Last offense : date)
- Stole from a pilot's container: # (Last offense : date)
Three out of four are already available if you take the 5 seconds to run their name through zkillboard. The rest sounds like "give moar free intelz plz", with a side of "one more nerf".
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9685
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:53:03 -
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Ageanal Olerie - presenting ideas to neuter EVE and turn it into Carebear Land where everyone is wrapped in bubble wrap since 2015-01-09 22:15
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Bumble's Space Log
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Paul Pohl
blue media poetry
56
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:19:33 -
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I can't see the 'guilt by association' working, since a player might be a role-playing and have one character for a bit of pirate action, and another that is pure as the driven snow.
Also the stealing thing is not such a big deal - yes ok maybe for miners and from within corps - but if no one is around, or even if they are, who isn't going to have a look in the giant freight container and help themselves if there is something nice? On the one hand you want to punish gankers, and on the other you want to punish those stealing from gankers |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1670
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:24:54 -
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This is a great idea! This way I'll be able to know who I can trust at a glance.
3 thumbs up! |
Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.12.14 16:28:15 -
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If it was available from a npc similar to locater agents it could be a nice isk sink and concord would keep records of crimes similar to rl .....maybe just last 10 crimes
The fact I have to look at a out of game website to find eve statistics about in game players has always been a bit weird to me as there should be a Ingame alternative and not just 1 way of doing things |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1670
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Posted - 2015.12.14 16:44:21 -
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Amber Starview wrote:If it was available from a npc similar to locater agents it could be a nice isk sink and concord would keep records of crimes similar to rl .....maybe just last 10 crimes
The fact I have to look at a out of game website to find eve statistics about in game players has always been a bit weird to me as there should be a Ingame alternative and not just 1 way of doing things
Dude, just come to WH space and shoot everyone that isn't in your fleet. It's both simple and fun. The thought of you guys making science projects out of wether to engage or not is just nauseating. Jita (Yulai) hasn't run out of a particular ship since mid 2004 - you will always be able to get another one.
If you're deciding wether or not you should shoot a guy - you're doing it all wrong. Live a little. Have some fun. |
Ageanal Olerie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.12.14 17:36:42 -
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Danika Princip wrote:And why do you think you should be able to know who anyone' alts are without an API key?
Is looking at zkill really too much effort for you? It's safe to assume that anyone who's ever managed to kill anything, or has ever visited space outside of highsec, is going to have a huge rap sheet. What, exactly, is it supposed to prove that a killboard doesn't? Do you need to know about every time I repaired a fleetmate in lowsec?
Keep in mind this would only show statistics for those activities which have activated your criminal or suspect flag. Perhaps just criminal flag, but I wouldn't mind seeing both. So it's not going to show every kill you've made. Nor will it show the details of kills. Only numbers.
Also you won't be able to see who people's alts are because that too would only show as a number. So if the 2nd part of this idea were implemented and someone had an alt on the same account which met some threshold for being branded a career criminal, it would show First Order Criminal Associations: 1
This wouldn't let you know anything about their alt other than that they have at least one which is or has recently been actively engaged in criminal activities.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1671
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Posted - 2015.12.14 18:20:49 -
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Ageanal Olerie wrote:Danika Princip wrote:And why do you think you should be able to know who anyone' alts are without an API key?
Is looking at zkill really too much effort for you? It's safe to assume that anyone who's ever managed to kill anything, or has ever visited space outside of highsec, is going to have a huge rap sheet. What, exactly, is it supposed to prove that a killboard doesn't? Do you need to know about every time I repaired a fleetmate in lowsec? Keep in mind this would only show statistics for those activities which have activated your criminal or suspect flag. Perhaps just criminal flag, but I wouldn't mind seeing both. So it's not going to show every kill you've made. Nor will it show the details of kills. Only numbers. Also you won't be able to see who people's alts are because that too would only show as a number. So if the 2nd part of this idea were implemented and someone had an alt on the same account which met some threshold for being branded a career criminal, it would show First Order Criminal Associations: 1 This wouldn't let you know anything about their alt other than that they have at least one which is or has recently been actively engaged in criminal activities.
I don't want to belittle your idea, but I really don't think many folks really care who did or didn't pull a yellow card in HS/LS when, where, why and how. It's eve. That's part of the fun. I guess I'm just not seeing the value. Busy systems have too much traffic to spend all day looking at everyone's rap sheet. Not busy systems aren't busy, so you notice any newcomers and know all about the regulars. Even if a guy has a lot of stuff on his rap sheet... what are you going to do? Link him in local and type DANGER DANGER or BAD MAN BAD MAN?
And good luck untieing my alts w/ rap sheets. The obvious ones are obvious and guys I've flown with for 5 years have no idea about some of the others. You see, if I want to keep an alt clean - it's not that difficult. All I have to do is look at an api key to figure out what will and won't connect one alt to another.
It's like this - if a guy flips your stuff just show info, see how old he is and then start shooting. Honestly - if you need a rap sheet to decide if you're going to engage someone 1. You probably won't regardless and 2. You probably won't regardless.
What is the use of this new feature you're proposing? |
Lugh Crow-Slave
1342
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Posted - 2015.12.14 21:41:58 -
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can i get one on miners to that tell me where they mine and at what times?
oooh or maybe on that shows me the routes haulers take when accepting contracts and the size that they generally haul
and of course who and what ship type has jump to a cyno lit by a charactor
Fuel block colors? Missiles for Caldari T3? Corp Stasis
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13051
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Posted - 2015.12.14 22:38:45 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote: what are you going to do? Link him in local and type DANGER DANGER or BAD MAN BAD MAN?
I've actually had this happen a couple of times when out mission flipping
Better the Devil you know.
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Mag's
the united
20854
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Posted - 2015.12.14 23:06:37 -
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admiral root wrote:Ageanal Olerie wrote:For instance:
- Attacked a pilot : # (Last offense : date)
- Destroyed a pilot's ship: # (Last offense : date)
- Destroyed a pilot's pod: # (Last offense : date)
- Stole from a pilot's container: # (Last offense : date)
Three out of four are already available if you take the 5 seconds to run their name through zkillboard. The rest sounds like "give moar free intelz plz", with a side of "one more nerf". This.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Paul Pohl
blue media poetry
57
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Posted - 2015.12.15 02:14:21 -
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Amber Starview wrote:If it was available from a npc similar to locater agents it could be a nice isk sink and concord would keep records of crimes similar to rl .....maybe just last 10 crimes
The fact I have to look at a out of game website to find eve statistics about in game players has always been a bit weird to me as there should be a Ingame alternative and not just 1 way of doing things
Yes it's rather like reading a science fiction novel - no doubt set in a dystopian future - in which they will have some device on which they do some elaborate thing.... and you think, 'what like Cortana?'
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