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Guido-San Tosh
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2015.12.14 17:52:14 -
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Well, I found a new way I hadn't been aware of to get my butt blown out of my ship in a speedy fashion. Was wandering at random through hisec and came upon a system that had a bunch of abandoned rookie ships floating around. They didn't have any id, or show any connection to any pilot. The system even asked me if I wanted to board one that was close by. Not thinking to clearly (long day, little sleep), I decided to shoot one. Boom. Hello Concord! Goodbye nice shiny ship I was piloting! Should have seen it coming, but the fact hat the abandoned ships had no player reference threw me - I thought concord would only intervene if you acted against someone else, not abandoned property . Is this a common way to sucker those who aren't thinking straight into getting concorded for salvage? Seems like it might take quite a bit of waiting for somebody who's trigger finger is too itchy... |
Mortlake
Disciples of Bob
908
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Posted - 2015.12.14 18:05:11 -
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No it's not a common way to do anything, they're just abandoned rookie ships. Abandoned ships are still attached to players, and generate a lossmail for them in just the same way as if they were piloted. Why was your safety set on red in hisec anyway? Were you planning on ganking something in your Drake? |
Paranoid Loyd
7706
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Posted - 2015.12.14 18:13:06 -
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You were flying a shiny Drake?!? 
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Guido-San Tosh
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2015.12.14 22:36:01 -
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Eh, I was wandering around looking for more of those Frostline rats. Found one, but somebody was already smacking them. At least that's how I started, I sorta lost focus and ended up wandering aimlessly with my brain pretty much turned off. Which is what gets shiny new Drakes blasted... |
Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5599
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Posted - 2015.12.15 03:19:34 -
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Red safety is always stupid in highsec unless you are in warp to a gank target.
You just learned an expensive lesson that I learned for free.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3708
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Posted - 2015.12.15 18:47:40 -
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Like Sabriz said there's literally no reason to ever have your safety set to red in highsec unless you're participating in a suicide gank. If something is a legal target that you can shoot without getting concorded you can shoot it with your safety set yellow. If you have your safety set green you can shoot anything that won't get you flagged as a suspect.
There is no excuse for getting concorded by accident. |
Iain Cariaba
2194
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Posted - 2015.12.16 13:46:51 -
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Pfff, never not fly with red safety. 
You never know when you're going to come across something that simply must explode, and might lose the chance if you have to change safety settings. 
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
139
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Posted - 2015.12.16 18:18:22 -
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Posting in a 'my shiny drake' thread. |
Malbona Pomon
Petulant Luddite GmbH
12
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Posted - 2015.12.16 20:44:53 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Like Sabriz said there's literally no reason to ever have your safety set to red in highsec unless you're participating in a suicide gank. If something is a legal target that you can shoot without getting concorded you can shoot it with your safety set yellow. If you have your safety set green you can shoot anything that won't get you flagged as a suspect.
There is no excuse for getting concorded by accident.
Confirmed, red is for naughty people.
And unexpected accidental concord is the best kind of.  wtf concord |
voetius
Quiet Days in Clichy
402
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Posted - 2015.12.16 21:47:04 -
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It's a bit of a weird one. I once went to an offline POS that I had decced and there was an empty shuttle there that was showing a red war target marker so naturally I shot it (safety on green) and was a bit surprised to see a killmail with the pilots name on it :)
At one time you could click on an empty ship then click on the portrait to see who it belonged to but sometime a year or more ago CCP did one of their stealth patches and now you can only click on the ship and Show Info and it says "voetius's Ibis" or some such.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5604
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Posted - 2015.12.16 23:26:50 -
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Malbona Pomon wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Like Sabriz said there's literally no reason to ever have your safety set to red in highsec unless you're participating in a suicide gank. If something is a legal target that you can shoot without getting concorded you can shoot it with your safety set yellow. If you have your safety set green you can shoot anything that won't get you flagged as a suspect.
There is no excuse for getting concorded by accident. Confirmed, red is for naughty people. And unexpected accidental concord is the best kind of. wtf concord
Red is for silly people (outside intentional suicide ganks).
I'll add one more situation where you might consider red safety in high - you have already committed to a jump into lowsec and have smartbombs fitted. But if your route is Odotte (0.5) - Stegette (0.5) - Ravarin (0.4), you should undock in Odotte with your choice of yellow or green safety, jump to Stegette, then select the Ravarin gate, hit 'jump' and while in warp change to red.
Then if you do get a red card in Ravarin, don't jump back to Stegette without waiting 15 minutes....
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Trevor Dalech
We pooped on your lawn
Resonance.
198
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Posted - 2015.12.17 03:26:54 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Then if you do get a red card in Ravarin, don't jump back to Stegette without waiting 15 minutes....
Unless you wish to deny a kill mail to someone like me who lands on top of you just after you go criminal. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3714
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Posted - 2015.12.17 14:10:38 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Pfff, never not fly with red safety. You never know when you're going to come across something that simply must explode, and might lose the chance if you have to change safety settings.
It's not an if. If you shoot something in highsec that you need your safety set red to be able to shoot you will get concorded. Subsequently unless you intend to get concorded having your safety set red doesn't help you in any way, it just enables you to kill yourself by pressing the wrong button.
Lowsec hard men often explode hilariously because they insist on having their safety on red for no reason when in highsec. Whenever I find myself dealing with people who normally operate in lowsec during my highsec escapades I make a point to count how many of them die to concord because they shot the wrong thing, last time was Brave and there were 2 of them, plus 4 with killrights that died to neutrals as did two logi pilots that didn't understand what the definition of "neutral" is.
Good times. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1555
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Posted - 2015.12.17 14:20:05 -
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Once saw a whole gang in low go flashy red on a gate.....and then jump into hisec once the weapons timer expired.
Hilarity then ensued.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
27839
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Posted - 2015.12.17 16:15:39 -
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Reminds me of a guy in a t3 cruiser, who engaged me right after suspect ran out.
For 250 Million isk I didn't make his next 30 days a life full of paranoia and fear ....
... well, just less paranoia and fear, but I keep my word. :P
Red button, best button. :D
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5608
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Posted - 2015.12.18 00:37:06 -
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Trevor Dalech wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Then if you do get a red card in Ravarin, don't jump back to Stegette without waiting 15 minutes....
Unless you wish to deny a kill mail to someone like me who lands on top of you just after you go criminal.
If someone bests me I have no issue with them getting a killmail. Besides, I probably have a weapons timer in this situation.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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