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Evasive Shadow Assassin
Entropy VS Chaos
737
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Posted - 2015.12.15 13:26:14 -
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Hello!
Hopefully this is not considered ranting as that is not my intention :)
So every day there is a thread on how "EvE is dieing" or "decline in numbers".
So if you truly believe this, why do you run here and make stupid threads based on inaccurate information or what you perceive to an issue?
Why not go to every other MMO/review/w/e site and post invites to eve?
Why not make videos on eve as much as you can?
Why not offer to help people joining eve?
Why not ask CCP to setup a player donation scheme for new players i.e players donate to a corp setup by CCP (isk) and every time an account subs to eve it gets say, 50mil isk for joining eve?
Why not set up a corp within your big, bad, scary, null sec alliance aimed to help new players?
Why not take the time to run that corp instead of trying to get on as many kill mails as possible?
Why not share eve-unis website on your facebook/twitter w/e social media?
If you truly believe eve is dieing, stop making threads and HELP CCP get new players into eve.
Instead of running here and whining about how "eve is no more" and all this nonsense. Cause quite frankly, it's getting irritating.
Regards
Shadow - P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it.
Don't forget to spread word about the EvE Online New Player Guide, 50+ videos and counting, let's get more and more players into this amazing game!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
41698
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Posted - 2015.12.15 13:31:20 -
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My guess: words are easier than action.
Next to no effort is required to whinge.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
373
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Posted - 2015.12.15 13:31:50 -
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Because they're using "EVE is dying" support their cause and (not so) hidden agenda: "EVE is Dying unless it changes to the way I want it to change. LISTEN TO ME!". |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9711
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Posted - 2015.12.15 14:04:37 -
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Why not?
CCP doesn't pay us to be marketers
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13060
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Posted - 2015.12.15 15:09:32 -
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Tiberius Heth wrote:Because they're using "EVE is dying" support their cause and (not so) hidden agenda: "EVE is Dying unless it changes to the way I want it to change. LISTEN TO ME!".
yeah if you pay attention to them they are almost always thinly veiled moans about something that has/hasn't , will/will not be changed and/or plex.
my personal favourites are the "eve is hard,highsec isnt safe enough MAMMY CCP HE KICKED MEEEEEEE " ones.
Better the Devil you know.
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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
1129
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Posted - 2015.12.15 15:24:31 -
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Tiberius Heth wrote:Because they're using "EVE is dying" support their cause and (not so) hidden agenda: "EVE is Dying unless it changes to the way I want it to change. LISTEN TO ME!".
Only if those changes result in EVE dying faster.
I'm sick and tired of the player base. Have been since 2008.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6959
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Posted - 2015.12.15 15:52:37 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Tiberius Heth wrote:Because they're using "EVE is dying" support their cause and (not so) hidden agenda: "EVE is Dying unless it changes to the way I want it to change. LISTEN TO ME!". Only if those changes result in EVE dying faster. I'm sick and tired of the player base. Have been since 2008. I thought you just didn't like the "forum goers". Make up your mind buddy, do you want the game to die or the forum? Or is it you just want a single player version so you don't have to see other people?
To the OP, it's because some of us recognise that the issues don't all come down to what players do. Some require changes to come directly from CCP. Things like:
- CCP should be more open with stats, like they used to be. The loss of the QEN was a massive blow to the game as was the move to keep sub numbers quiet once they stopped going up. We all knew they were going down, so why hide it?
- CCP should also remember that this right here is their community, not reddit. A lot of the devs tend to spend more time on there than over here. That shouldn't be the case. When the community manager posts 10 times as much on reddit than on their own forum, there's a problem there.
- Old game mechanics. New players come straight into the game into some of the oldest game mechanics. It's all well and good overhauling sov and structures, but they need to put some serious work into the mechanics that people see first, to stop the immediate "this is boring" turnaway. People like Mike Azariah go well out of their way to engage with newbies, but it shouldn't be down to people like him to make the game entertaining for newbies.
- Paired up with that is a lack of challenge. Because everything is about mixing with other people, mechanical challenges basically don't exist. "click thing pres butan" is about the extent of challenge in most mechanics that aren't directly PvP, and the only thing that really matters in the game is isk, which is far too easy to acquire. The game should be a challenge even when other people aren't taken into consideration, otherwise see above, "it's boring".
I'll put in more effort when CCP does. Unfortunately I don't think they care too much now that they've managed to get Valkyrie bundled with Rift. That's going to be their main focus for some time.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
27712
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Posted - 2015.12.15 15:58:46 -
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Nice thread.
Wise words.
Still trying to work out the money/organisational issues.
And most people don't care.
Decadence is killing the game more than anything else.
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Ginnie
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2015.12.15 16:19:15 -
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I have noticed that recently the average number of players when I am online is quite a bit more than it was just a few months ago. I took a break for about two years and returned in October.
Throughout October and November the average number of players online when I log in 0200 to 0400 GMT, was 14 to 16K, over the last week or so it has easily been over 20K every night.
For your reading pleasure Tranquility Status Monitor
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. -Edgar Allan Poe
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Aquilan Aideron
Wardecs go here
37
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Posted - 2015.12.15 17:41:34 -
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Because I would never recommend playing this game. |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
116
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Posted - 2015.12.15 17:53:17 -
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Aquilan Aideron wrote:Because I would never recommend playing this game.
Why is that?
_#portDust514
Don't let interactions like this become only a memory.
(EVE alt> Sarayu Wyvern. Dust 514 alt> Mobius Wyvern.)
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
532
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Posted - 2015.12.16 03:54:07 -
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EVE is dying 'cause people can't spell "dying", they keep spelling it "dieing" when there is no such word! There's even a red squiggly line that appears to SHOW people there's no such word as "dieing" and they hit ENTER anyway!! Can you believe that?
There just isn't anything that can be said!
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ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
225
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Posted - 2015.12.16 03:59:33 -
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EVE has been dying since its creation.
It will Always Continue Dying For the rest of Time/Eternity.
(( Basically Im saying don't listen to the Nay Sayers and do with EVE as you will regardless of what others say ))
~ISD Buldath
Interstellar Services Department
Support, Training and Resources Division
Lt. Commander
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
9140
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Posted - 2015.12.16 04:13:14 -
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"This game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."
- Elan Dochin
How did you Veterans start?
The Skillpoint System and You
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Chainsaw Plankton
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
2211
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Posted - 2015.12.16 04:47:47 -
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why would I do any of that if eve is dying :p
I help out on the forums and in eve-scout, and generally try to stay positive. As someone else said most of the eve is dying type posts are very specific whines about something.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
261
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Posted - 2015.12.16 05:26:22 -
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ISD Buldath wrote:EVE has been dying since its creation.
It will Always Continue Dying For the rest of Time/Eternity.
(( Basically Im saying don't listen to the Nay Sayers and do with EVE as you will regardless of what others say ))
And the cycle continues: Each day, EVE dies another death, and each day is reborn, anew, to channel the fury of keyboards and expensive mice.
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
261
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Posted - 2015.12.16 05:30:29 -
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Shadow - "P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it."
I'm sometimes tempted to scream my lungs out about how stupid everyone within hearing range is, and then put my fingers in my ears at times as well. But then I realize that openly treating my readers with disdain might make the entire effort of writing null and void, as I'd invoke the human reaction of 'shooting the messenger' strongly enough to have them distracted from the message. |
Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2015.12.16 07:35:45 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Tiberius Heth wrote:Because they're using "EVE is dying" support their cause and (not so) hidden agenda: "EVE is Dying unless it changes to the way I want it to change. LISTEN TO ME!". Only if those changes result in EVE dying faster. I'm sick and tired of the player base. Have been since 2008. I thought you just didn't like the "forum goers". Make up your mind buddy, do you want the game to die or the forum? Or is it you just want a single player version so you don't have to see other people? To the OP, it's because some of us recognise that the issues don't all come down to what players do. Some require changes to come directly from CCP. Things like: - CCP should be more open with stats, like they used to be. The loss of the QEN was a massive blow to the game as was the move to keep sub numbers quiet once they stopped going up. We all knew they were going down, so why hide it? More stats would be nice. It would give us something else to fight about in the forums.
Quote:- CCP should also remember that this right here is their community, not reddit. A lot of the devs tend to spend more time on there than over here. That shouldn't be the case. When the community manager posts 10 times as much on reddit than on their own forum, there's a problem there. We have a community manager?
Quote:- Old game mechanics. New players come straight into the game into some of the oldest game mechanics. It's all well and good overhauling sov and structures, but they need to put some serious work into the mechanics that people see first, to stop the immediate "this is boring" turnaway. People like Mike Azariah go well out of their way to engage with newbies, but it shouldn't be down to people like him to make the game entertaining for newbies.
I've seen this a *lot* with other niche games "nobody" likes. The community is small and/or in trouble, the community is aware of this, and so the community does what it can about it. At least some of it. A game with a few messy mechanics, a few bad (or even terribad) defaults can still be a lot of fun once you get past them if the game is good enough to get its point across.
Quote:- Paired up with that is a lack of challenge. Because everything is about mixing with other people, mechanical challenges basically don't exist. "click thing pres butan" is about the extent of challenge in most mechanics that aren't directly PvP, and the only thing that really matters in the game is isk, which is far too easy to acquire. The game should be a challenge even when other people aren't taken into consideration, otherwise see above, "it's boring".
Blowing stuff up is a lot more fun than looking out over it, seeing no serious incoming threats, and the same old same old.
Quote:I'll put in more effort when CCP does. Unfortunately I don't think they care too much now that they've managed to get Valkyrie bundled with Rift. That's going to be their main focus for some time.
Challenges... are only there once sometimes. That Goons/Band of Brothers thing only happened once. Band of Brothers disappeared, so that fight won't happen again. Maybe there will be another power shift like it, but right now, blueballing and keeping your stuff is a lot more attractive to most people than starting a serious fight and the very real chance of losing it. Sure, they'll probably fight to defend it-but the winning strategy is to not get there if you can help it-"winning" being "keeping your corner of the universe." Most people see the sheer insanity of the logistics involved, shake their heads, miss the strategy and spyplay, and say "Nah."
If an alliance is only about holding on to something in this game (or any game like it, really), it's dead before it throws down its first building, because it won't survive when whatever it's about holding on to is taken away.
A signature :o
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
1957
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Posted - 2015.12.16 08:13:18 -
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I am proud to say that as an Agent of the New Order of Highsec I am helping to fix EVE with ingame tools (antimatter) for years now. Be part of the change and help to fix the game by:
- Increasing the otherwise non existant risk in Highsec to activities like mining, hauling or moving around the verse.
- Create a market for mining equipment
- Help with retaining new players by providing them content by shooting their ships down.
- Help to improve the overall Highsec community by enforcing a set of just laws
- Help to protect the first ever player created democracy (The New Order of Highsec) in Highsec which was founded by our democratially elected Supreme Protector, Saviour of Highsec and Father of the New Order of Highsec James 315 (hallowed be thy name).
Enlist today and become the Hero you always wanted to be, become an Agent of the New Order of Highsec!
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
39
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Posted - 2015.12.16 09:04:36 -
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Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:Hello!
Hopefully this is not considered ranting as that is not my intention :)
So every day there is a thread on how "EvE is dieing" or "decline in numbers".
So if you truly believe this, why do you run here and make stupid threads based on inaccurate information or what you perceive to an issue?
Why not go to every other MMO/review/w/e site and post invites to eve?
Why not make videos on eve as much as you can?
Why not offer to help people joining eve?
Why not ask CCP to setup a player donation scheme for new players i.e players donate to a corp setup by CCP (isk) and every time an account subs to eve it gets say, 50mil isk for joining eve?
Why not set up a corp within your big, bad, scary, null sec alliance aimed to help new players?
Why not take the time to run that corp instead of trying to get on as many kill mails as possible?
Why not share eve-unis website on your facebook/twitter w/e social media?
If you truly believe eve is dieing, stop making threads and HELP CCP get new players into eve.
Instead of running here and whining about how "eve is no more" and all this nonsense. Cause quite frankly, it's getting irritating.
Regards
Shadow - P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it.
Uh, it is dying. look at the numbers on eve offline |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13087
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Posted - 2015.12.16 09:24:01 -
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Chribba updated the eve-death-o-meter with this year's statistics a while back.
Wish I remembered where he posted it.
 could ye image if he put that graph up on eve-offline with the tq graph...
Better the Devil you know.
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Saya Sakamoto
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.12.16 10:54:27 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Uh, it is dying. look at the numbers on eve offline
Those numbers don't say much. CCP banned ISBoxing, for example. Of course they are lower since people playing 8 Accounts now are back to 1. They also introduced longer skill queues. Again you get less logins. Etc.
You should look at activity graphs, i.e. "How much stuff got destroyed", and you would see that these look very healthy and actually are on the rise:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-economy-update-eve-vegas-2015-report/ |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13087
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Posted - 2015.12.16 11:03:33 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Uh, it is dying. look at the numbers on eve offline
and the ironic post of the morning goes to ^^
found the updated (as of 2015-11-02 08:08:13 UTC) chart 
source
Better the Devil you know.
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
261
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Posted - 2015.12.16 17:42:26 -
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Saya Sakamoto wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:
Uh, it is dying. look at the numbers on eve offline
Those numbers don't say much. CCP banned ISBoxing, for example. Of course they are lower since people playing 8 Accounts now are back to 1. They also introduced longer skill queues. Again you get less logins. Etc. You should look at activity graphs, i.e. "How much stuff got destroyed", and you would see that these look very healthy and actually are on the rise: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-economy-update-eve-vegas-2015-report/
The numbers say more when you have a backdrop of context. For example, when did the ISBoxing ban take effect, and then we can measure numbers before and after that.
Numbers promoted directly by a company that stands to profit from them always have to be taken more skeptically simply because of the profit motive.
I was checking Chribba's awesome EVE Offline tool and it looks like we have had an uptick in login activity recently, so that's hopeful.
EVE still needs a more effective promotion channel, however. But things like billboard space can cost $2000 to 4000 a month or more. However, the current 'internet advertises EVE only if EVE content is already detected' isn't the most brilliant way to do it.
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lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
139
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Posted - 2015.12.16 18:13:27 -
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OP: to answer your question, complaining about the matter on the forums is more efficient than trying to, say, lure more players into the game. This never solved anything, why would it do so now?
You want the complaining and claims such as 'Eve is dieing' to stop --> less discussion and content on the forums.
Why do you want to kill the lively quality forum discussion, op? |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1356
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Posted - 2015.12.16 22:57:20 -
[26] - Quote
EVE Online, happily dying since 2003.
Even though I don't believe the game is dying, I still do my part in helping to spread EVE, even when I'm unsubbed. I keep a few EVE threads on different message boards updated with the latest patch notes and trailers as they are released. I also mention EVE to anyone who asks for recommendations on which MMO and/or space game to play.
My lord.
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
1090
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Posted - 2015.12.17 12:27:58 -
[27] - Quote
What is this terrible thing you have there?
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2015.12.17 14:44:44 -
[28] - Quote
Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:
Shadow - P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it.
Depends on the quality of the whine.
GD without whining, would be a quiet place.
Some issues can't be rectified in-game as it's the mechanics that determine what can and can't be done. So if it requires the mechanics to change, then you should expect some whining. Of course someone whining might not see it as that.
EvE has been dying since I can remember, it always will be, because some people feel that it draws attention to their argument.
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Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2015.12.17 16:44:42 -
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All opinions are valid , personally i dislike the infighting and name calling that comes from each sec of space considering themselves the most important target group ccp should be focused on.
Ccp while I do think are a amazing company with some amazing individuals do make mistakes and people should be allowed to comment and discuss on any issue without being labeled a whiner and dismissed by the other groups
This surprises me because when the community does work together to get a message across to ccp they generally listen . |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
321
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Posted - 2015.12.17 17:17:55 -
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It's the same people going on about the same pet peeves they've always had.
It's just now all of them are convinced that every canceled account was another person who shared their opinions instead of, you know, canceled alts (multibox nerf) or capital alts (jump fatigue nerf).
"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for."
-CCP Wrangler
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
323
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Posted - 2015.12.17 17:18:31 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:Hello!
Hopefully this is not considered ranting as that is not my intention :)
So every day there is a thread on how "EvE is dieing" or "decline in numbers".
So if you truly believe this, why do you run here and make stupid threads based on inaccurate information or what you perceive to an issue?
Why not go to every other MMO/review/w/e site and post invites to eve?
Why not make videos on eve as much as you can?
Why not offer to help people joining eve?
Why not ask CCP to setup a player donation scheme for new players i.e players donate to a corp setup by CCP (isk) and every time an account subs to eve it gets say, 50mil isk for joining eve?
Why not set up a corp within your big, bad, scary, null sec alliance aimed to help new players?
Why not take the time to run that corp instead of trying to get on as many kill mails as possible?
Why not share eve-unis website on your facebook/twitter w/e social media?
If you truly believe eve is dieing, stop making threads and HELP CCP get new players into eve.
Instead of running here and whining about how "eve is no more" and all this nonsense. Cause quite frankly, it's getting irritating.
Regards
Shadow - P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it. Uh, it is dying. look at the numbers on eve offline
You're here too?? Why are subs down?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later
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Jon Essler
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2015.12.17 17:50:32 -
[32] - Quote
Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:Shadow - P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it.
It's not up to the players to 'sort it'. That is CCP's responsibility.
If the game is good enough people will come to play it. If it isn't, they won't. |
Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
40
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Posted - 2015.12.17 23:17:46 -
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Jon Essler wrote:Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:Shadow - P.S I won't be responding to this thread. I am simply saying, if you don't like the way things stand, get off your ass n sort it. It's not up to the players to 'sort it'. That is CCP's responsibility. If the game is good enough people will come to play it. If it isn't, they won't.
We pay CCP to 'sort it'. |
Taunrich Kaufmann
Caldari Mercantile Consortium
39
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Posted - 2015.12.23 15:35:53 -
[34] - Quote
HiSec could (re: should) be more risky imo. Couple that with a more in-depth combat tutorial and a 30-day trial (which was recently scrapped for some reason) and we're on our way.
When we first saw the flock, we were surrounded..Brilliant colors, dancing lights...This moment is the first time I understood what it meant to be Caldari: Divinity in the flock...one being, many changes.
- Janto Sitarbe, The Legendary Flock
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Jeinvay Kunsu
Br0wn Coat5
8
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Posted - 2015.12.23 17:04:13 -
[35] - Quote
Every game and MMO is dying, just in various stages. Everything starts dying the moment of birth.
All that we do is just delaying the final moment.
Also, null is the safest place in EVE, not high sec. |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1468
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Posted - 2015.12.23 17:25:53 -
[36] - Quote
Taunrich Kaufmann wrote:HiSec could (re: should) be more risky imo.
Travelling the Jita-Hek pipe can be pretty damn terrifying at times. I agree though, more risk is a good thing because players who die are much more likely to stay subbed after all.
My lord.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7097
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Posted - 2015.12.23 17:29:31 -
[37] - Quote
Every time I see the word 'dieing', I have to admit some confusion over whether or not the person is doing it intentionally to troll people like me, or if they genuinely don't know how to spell 'dying' correctly.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
28406
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Posted - 2015.12.23 17:32:01 -
[38] - Quote
I feel honoured that you stay in the corp. :) :)
Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
4423
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Posted - 2015.12.23 17:41:38 -
[39] - Quote
I've always wondered whether that's a case of false causation, because using only these two data (length of tenure and age at first death) can be biased by gameplay style. A PvEr is a) more likely to have a shorter tenure and b) more likely to be first killed at an older age, but there's no causation between those data.
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1963
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Posted - 2015.12.23 17:46:11 -
[40] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:but there's no causation between those data...
... that suits your agenda.
Too bad.
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King Aires
Chicks on Speed
Mordus Angels
61
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Posted - 2015.12.23 20:28:55 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:but there's no causation between those data... ... that suits your agenda. Too bad.
Regardless of what his agenda is, it is impossible to lose a ship if you are not subbed any longer.
Therefore it is reasonable to get data such as this which says you are more likely to stay if you die. That is because if you leave before you die you didn't stay in the first place.
Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy (not the Battlecruiser) |
W33b3l
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Because its the internet lol.
The really old players would rather argue and show people what they know typing then play the game.
The middle aged players would rather complain about something then learn about how it really works then put the time in the game itself to learn it.
The new players complain because they are better at complaining then learning a new game.
So it just boils down to bored or uninformed people with internet access and know the forum exists.
Wich reminds me.. I have stuff to do in game... |
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