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Katt Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.16 01:52:00 - [1] Take the Privateer equation to the next step. Pay Privateers to wardec the corps that leave their Alliance. Anyways, just a thought and would be interesting to see how they deal with it.
Katt Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.16 01:52:00 - [2] Take the Privateer equation to the next step. Pay Privateers to wardec the corps that leave their Alliance. Anyways, just a thought and would be interesting to see how they deal with it.
Wendat Huron Lupus Industries	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:35:00 - [3] I'm sure they'd declare to keep their business idea alive but would the actively persue and engage?
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:46:00 - [4] Privateers don't really care who their targets are.
Soul Huntress keeper of souls	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure they'd declare to keep their business idea alive but would the actively persue and engage? no they wouldnt actively persue. they dont do it with their current wartargets. they are content on getting the odd hauler or afk shuttle within 1-2jumps off places like jita and oursaelert.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:51:00 - [6] Edited by: Patch86 on 16/01/2007 02:48:04 Could be a fun experiment- well worth 50 million, just to see what happens -----------------------------------------------
Llynn Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:53:00 - [7] Originally by: Soul Huntress Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure they'd declare to keep their business idea alive but would the actively persue and engage? no they wouldnt actively persue. they dont do it with their current wartargets. they are content on getting the odd hauler or afk shuttle within 1-2jumps off places like jita and oursaelert. Now that isn't really fair. With this many wardecs we can't actively persue every corp and alliance we are at war with. So get in line and wait patiently like everyone else PS. Not a whine about the number of wardecs, it's great as it is
Roue Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 03:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Soul Huntress Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure they'd declare to keep their business idea alive but would the actively persue and engage? no they wouldnt actively persue. they dont do it with their current wartargets. they are content on getting the odd hauler or afk shuttle within 1-2jumps off places like jita and oursaelert. This is a really kind of stupid. How do you quantify how effective the police who don't make arrests but stand outside high crime areas are at preventing it? You can't. Which is one of the major problems with ticket/arrest based law enforcement judgement. The cops who do the most sometimes are the ones spending their time being present, not shooting for points. It's kind of the same for Privateers Alliance. If you think the value of buying a wardec is in the kills, you are missing the larger part. The value is in the fear of being killed by a huge number of roving independent pilots. That causes pressure on a corporation, taking away some freedom which has certain results. And as for ganking the occasional hauler? When it's an occator with a billion in minerals/modules. The odd hauler is very worth while to our employers. And for me on my cut of the loot :) This is my opinion not that of privateer corp, alliance, its member corps, affiliates, minions, pet animals, ex girlfriends, former roommates, 3rd grade gym teachers, late relatives, ontime relatives,
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 09:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Soul Huntress Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure they'd declare to keep their business idea alive but would the actively persue and engage? no they wouldnt actively persue. they dont do it with their current wartargets. they are content on getting the odd hauler or afk shuttle within 1-2jumps off places like jita and oursaelert. 7000+ kills 7 freighter kills 2 carrier kills Literally all over empire The OP has an interesting Idea Though did you mean the foeman alliance getting fed up of corps running from their own alliance when we dec them and paying us to war dec their own ex alliance mates. OR Whomever paid for the war agasint the alliance, then paying to declare the fleeing corps? SKUNK My speeeling is my own and dos not represant the Privateer Corporation or Privateer alliance who incidentally are recruting pilots and corporations - Evemail me for details
Mei Jiang	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:36:00 - [10] Edited by: Mei Jiang on 16/01/2007 14:32:47 As a former member of an alliance that was wardec'd by PA, I can attest to their efficacy. A significant number of my alliance mates did not undock for 5 days straight, and ended up resigning roles and quitting out into noobcorps or splintering off to form their own corps. In the end, the 100 mil it cost whoever paid, essentially shattered the corp I was in, with it plummeting from nearly 20 active members down to 3. and the alliance is basically defunct. it still exists, but only as a tool of convenience for the wealthy few who can afford to run a handful of POS and wan't access to them from alliance research and manufacturing alts that never undock anyways... It basically gives anyone who has ever had the slightest itch to move on, a great reason to do so.
Brian Ballbag	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Soul Huntress Originally by: Wendat Huron I'm sure they'd declare to keep their business idea alive but would the actively persue and engage? no they wouldnt actively persue. they dont do it with their current wartargets. they are content on getting the odd hauler or afk shuttle within 1-2jumps off places like jita and oursaelert. Just another victim
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:38:00 - [12] Originally by: Mei Jiang Edited by: Mei Jiang on 16/01/2007 14:32:47 As a former member of an alliance that was wardec'd by PA, I can attest to their efficacy. A significant number of my alliance mates did not undock for 5 days straight, and ended up resigning roles and quitting out into noobcorps or splintering off to form their own corps. In the end, the 100 mil it cost whoever paid, essentially shattered the corp I was in, with it plummeting from nearly 20 active members down to 3. and the alliance is basically defunct. it still exists, but only as a tool of convenience for the wealthy few who can afford to run a handful of POS and wan't access to them from alliance research and manufacturing alts that never undock anyways... It basically gives anyone who has ever had the slightest itch to move on, a great reason to do so. Gee, they are providing a great service to the EVE community eh? Building the homestead
Kyra Moonfall Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:38:00 - [13] snip spam removed - Deckard
Hex Stiletto Gallente Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Soul Huntress they are content on getting the odd hauler or afk shuttle within 1-2jumps off places like jita and oursaelert. Oh ****, as many as that. Now, I know what I'm doing wrong.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:51:00 - [15] The bottom line is, PA is who PA is because they can't be a BoB, D2, LV or anyone else out there... There will always be lower forms of PvP'ers who can't compete, just part of the game... They will go away eventually... Building the homestead
Rayvonuk Privateers	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:56:00 - [16] Originally by: DarkMatter The bottom line is, PA is who PA is because they can't be a BoB, D2, LV or anyone else out there... There will always be lower forms of PvP'ers who can't compete, just part of the game... They will go away eventually... All these posts and you still dont understand, We dont want to be a BOB,D2, LV or any other 0.0 alliance for that matter, lots of us are here because we learned that 0.0 alliances are not for us.
Brian Ballbag	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:56:00 - [17] Originally by: DarkMatter The bottom line is, PA is who PA is because they can't be a BoB, D2, LV or anyone else out there... There will always be lower forms of PvP'ers who can't compete, just part of the game... They will go away eventually... Just another victim lol
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:58:00 - [18] Originally by: DarkMatter The bottom line is, PA is who PA is because they can't be a BoB, D2, LV or anyone else out there... There will always be lower forms of PvP'ers who can't compete, just part of the game... They will go away eventually... Ah, looks like someones simply itching for a wardec! (If you woke up breathing today, CONGRATULATIONS!, you get another chance!)
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Rayvonuk Originally by: DarkMatter The bottom line is, PA is who PA is because they can't be a BoB, D2, LV or anyone else out there... There will always be lower forms of PvP'ers who can't compete, just part of the game... They will go away eventually... All these posts and you still dont understand, We dont want to be a BOB,D2, LV or any other 0.0 alliance for that matter, lots of us are here because we learned that 0.0 alliances are not for us. Equates to: 0.0 is too hard, takes too much effort & teamwork, lets go to high sec where we can gank, and we don't have to worry about gate camps & bubbles... Yes, it's quite obvious why you don't want to be a Bob, D2 or LV... Building the homestead
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:01:00 - [20] Originally by: Twilight Moon Originally by: DarkMatter The bottom line is, PA is who PA is because they can't be a BoB, D2, LV or anyone else out there... There will always be lower forms of PvP'ers who can't compete, just part of the game... They will go away eventually... Ah, looks like someones simply itching for a wardec! You already war dec'd my alliance... Building the homestead
Rayvonuk Privateers	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:03:00 - [21] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Rayvonuk Originally by: DarkMatter The bottom line is, PA is who PA is because they can't be a BoB, D2, LV or anyone else out there... There will always be lower forms of PvP'ers who can't compete, just part of the game... They will go away eventually... All these posts and you still dont understand, We dont want to be a BOB,D2, LV or any other 0.0 alliance for that matter, lots of us are here because we learned that 0.0 alliances are not for us. Equates to: 0.0 is too hard, takes too much effort & teamwork, lets go to high sec where we can gank, and we don't have to worry about gate camps & bubbles... Yes, it's quite obvious why you don't want to be a Bob, D2 or LV... no, Equates to We dont want to sit in a crappy gate camp in a massive fleet for hours, obeying the orders of some FC that doesnt give a f&$k about me. We dont want random people who think they are our superiors telling me what to do in CAPS and assuming they know better than us. We dont want to be a pawn in some fat dudes game of risk. We dont want to be the usual alliance sheep like it seems you are.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:05:00 - [22] Edited by: DarkMatter on 16/01/2007 15:02:57 Quote: no, Equates to We dont want to sit in a crappy gate camp in a massive fleet for hours, obeying the orders of some FC that doesnt give a f&$k about me. We dont want random people who think they are our superiors telling me what to do in CAPS and assuming they know better than us. We dont want to be a pawn in some fat dudes game of risk. We dont want to be the usual alliance sheep like it seems you are. Which means you don't know what teamwork is all about... Which means you have no concept of empire building... Which means you're most likely a bunch of FPS'ers who can't comprehend long term goals... Which basically menas you're not cut out for 0.0 space and never will be... So stay in empire and dream about being good at EVE someday... Building the homestead
Rayvonuk Privateers	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:11:00 - [23] Edited by: Rayvonuk on 16/01/2007 15:10:57 Originally by: DarkMatter Quote: no, Equates to We dont want to sit in a crappy gate camp in a massive fleet for hours, obeying the orders of some FC that doesnt give a f&$k about me. We dont want random people who think they are our superiors telling me what to do in CAPS and assuming they know better than us. We dont want to be a pawn in some fat dudes game of risk. We dont want to be the usual alliance sheep like it seems you are. Which means you don't know what teamwork is all about... Which means you have no concept of empire building... Which means you're most likely a bunch of FPS'ers who can't comprehend long term goals... Which basically menas you're not cut out for 0.0 space and never will be... It takes no skills to be "cut out" for 0.0 space. you are deluding yourself, we use teamwork. This game in case you havnt noticed is not only about building you own little castle to sit and W*&k in, Just face it our Long term goals are not the same as yours, We like how we play and you like how you play. you only get argued with because you assume what you say is to be taken as gold,likealot of bigheaded people in this game.
Brian Ballbag	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:14:00 - [24] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 16/01/2007 15:02:57 Quote: no, Equates to We dont want to sit in a crappy gate camp in a massive fleet for hours, obeying the orders of some FC that doesnt give a f&$k about me. We dont want random people who think they are our superiors telling me what to do in CAPS and assuming they know better than us. We dont want to be a pawn in some fat dudes game of risk. We dont want to be the usual alliance sheep like it seems you are. Which means you don't know what teamwork is all about... Which means you have no concept of empire building... Which means you're most likely a bunch of FPS'ers who can't comprehend long term goals... Which basically menas you're not cut out for 0.0 space and never will be... So stay in empire and dream about being good at EVE someday... Hahaha what a loser, you think your good at eve because you have a long term goal and a POS. Get a life dude not everyone plays in your crappy way.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:14:00 - [25] Originally by: Rayvonuk Originally by: DarkMatter Quote: no, Equates to We dont want to sit in a crappy gate camp in a massive fleet for hours, obeying the orders of some FC that doesnt give a f&$k about me. We dont want random people who think they are our superiors telling me what to do in CAPS and assuming they know better than us. We dont want to be a pawn in some fat dudes game of risk. We dont want to be the usual alliance sheep like it seems you are. Which means you don't know what teamwork is all about... Which means you have no concept of empire building... Which means you're most likely a bunch of FPS'ers who can't comprehend long term goals... Which basically menas you're not cut out for 0.0 space and never will be... It takes no skills to be "cut out" for 0.0 space. you are deluding yourself, we use teamwork. This game in case you havnt noticed is not only about building you own little castle to sit and W*&k in, Just face it our Long term goals are not the same as yours, We like how we play and you like how you play. you only get argued because you assume what you say is to be taken as gold. You really have to look at yourselves on a macro scale, if you are happy with yourselves, than you're just the kind of players we all think you are... But that's ok, because CCP allows you to play this game too... Just stop with the delusions of grandeur... Building the homestead
Ice Conch	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:17:00 - [26] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 16/01/2007 15:02:57 Quote: no, Equates to We dont want to sit in a crappy gate camp in a massive fleet for hours, obeying the orders of some FC that doesnt give a f&$k about me. We dont want random people who think they are our superiors telling me what to do in CAPS and assuming they know better than us. We dont want to be a pawn in some fat dudes game of risk. We dont want to be the usual alliance sheep like it seems you are. Which means you don't know what teamwork is all about... Which means you have no concept of empire building... Which means you're most likely a bunch of FPS'ers who can't comprehend long term goals... Which basically menas you're not cut out for 0.0 space and never will be... So stay in empire and dream about being good at EVE someday... They do it because they prefer anarchy, no crazed high command telling them that, even though BOB is pwning them daily, that they will hold Feythabolis. They do it so they dont have to put up with alliance politics and alliance bull****. They are pvpers, they play to win, and those that are serious in the alliance certainly win.
Barry Cantona Gallente Elite Angels Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:17:00 - [27] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Rayvonuk Originally by: DarkMatter Quote: no, Equates to We dont want to sit in a crappy gate camp in a massive fleet for hours, obeying the orders of some FC that doesnt give a f&$k about me. We dont want random people who think they are our superiors telling me what to do in CAPS and assuming they know better than us. We dont want to be a pawn in some fat dudes game of risk. We dont want to be the usual alliance sheep like it seems you are. Which means you don't know what teamwork is all about... Which means you have no concept of empire building... Which means you're most likely a bunch of FPS'ers who can't comprehend long term goals... Which basically menas you're not cut out for 0.0 space and never will be... It takes no skills to be "cut out" for 0.0 space. you are deluding yourself, we use teamwork. This game in case you havnt noticed is not only about building you own little castle to sit and W&k in, Just face it our Long term goals are not the same as yours, We like how we play and you like how you play. you only get argued because you assume what you say is to be taken as gold. You really have to look at yourselves on a macro scale, if you are happy with yourselves, than you're just the kind of players we all think you are... But that's ok, because CCP allows you to play this game too... Just stop with the delusions of grandeur... the only delusions are yours my friend, taking this looking down on all atitude shows what a **** you really are. scale means nothing, those that need to build and accumulate in order to acheive in a game are quite often very sad little people.
Rayvonuk Privateers	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:18:00 - [28] Edited by: Rayvonuk on 16/01/2007 15:15:49 Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Rayvonuk Originally by: DarkMatter Quote: no, Equates to We dont want to sit in a crappy gate camp in a massive fleet for hours, obeying the orders of some FC that doesnt give a f&$k about me. We dont want random people who think they are our superiors telling me what to do in CAPS and assuming they know better than us. We dont want to be a pawn in some fat dudes game of risk. We dont want to be the usual alliance sheep like it seems you are. Which means you don't know what teamwork is all about... Which means you have no concept of empire building... Which means you're most likely a bunch of FPS'ers who can't comprehend long term goals... Which basically menas you're not cut out for 0.0 space and never will be... It takes no skills to be "cut out" for 0.0 space. you are deluding yourself, we use teamwork. This game in case you havnt noticed is not only about building you own little castle to sit and W*&k in, Just face it our Long term goals are not the same as yours, We like how we play and you like how you play. you only get argued because you assume what you say is to be taken as gold. You really have to look at yourselves on a macro scale, if you are happy with yourselves, than you're just the kind of players we all think you are... But that's ok, because CCP allows you to play this game too... Just stop with the delusions of grandeur... I give up, this dude needs to get out a bit more. But thats ok because CCP allows them to play as well, after all what would we do without whiners.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:19:00 - [29] Quote: the only delusions are yours my friend, taking this looking down on all atitude shows what a ***** you really are. scale means nothing, those that need to build and accumulate in order to acheive in a game are quite often very sad little people. I wonder how many DEV alts play the empire building game, and how many play EVE in a ganker alliance... That should give you some indication of what types of players CCP is trying to build this game for... Empire building/corporate warfare is what EVE is all about, not table scrap PvP'ing in high sec... Building the homestead
Barry Cantona Gallente Elite Angels Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:20:00 - [30] Edited by: Barry Cantona on 16/01/2007 15:18:17 Originally by: DarkMatter Quote: the only delusions are yours my friend, taking this looking down on all atitude shows what a ***** you really are. scale means nothing, those that need to build and accumulate in order to acheive in a game are quite often very sad little people. I wonder how many DEV alts play the empire building game, and how many play EVE in a ganker alliance... That should give you some indication of what types of players CCP is trying to build this game for... Empire building/corporate warfare is what EVE is all about, not table scrap PvP'ing in high sec... seems you are deluded, how wrong you are. Rayvonuk was right, theres no arguing with pigheaded people like you, i shall now leave you alone, almighty know it all master of EVE.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:22:00 - [31] Originally by: Barry Cantona Originally by: DarkMatter Quote: the only delusions are yours my friend, taking this looking down on all atitude shows what a ***** you really are. scale means nothing, those that need to build and accumulate in order to acheive in a game are quite often very sad little people. I wonder how many DEV alts play the empire building game, and how many play EVE in a ganker alliance... That should give you some indication of what types of players CCP is trying to build this game for... Empire building/corporate warfare is what EVE is all about, not table scrap PvP'ing in high sec... seems you are deluded, how wrong you are. Yes, I forgot, they were all PK'ers in UO... My mistake... That's why they made EVE, to gank noobs in noobland... In any event, PA is a flash in the pan type alliance... Building the homestead
Brian Ballbag	Posted - 2007.01.16 15:25:00 - [32] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Barry Cantona Originally by: DarkMatter Quote: the only delusions are yours my friend, taking this looking down on all atitude shows what a ***** you really are. scale means nothing, those that need to build and accumulate in order to acheive in a game are quite often very sad little people. I wonder how many DEV alts play the empire building game, and how many play EVE in a ganker alliance... That should give you some indication of what types of players CCP is trying to build this game for... Empire building/corporate warfare is what EVE is all about, not table scrap PvP'ing in high sec... seems you are deluded, how wrong you are. Yes, I forgot, they were all PK'ers in UO... My mistake... That's why they made EVE, to gank noobs in noobland... In any event, PA is a flash in the pan type alliance... Waaa Waaa mummy PA killed me while i was building my sand castle !!!!

Devil Hanzo Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.16 16:05:00 - [33] Discussions about alliance and corporation activities belongs in Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions. They do not belong in General Discussion, so im locking this. King of the Pink Sig - Karl Chroimcer Its red and very manly! - Devil Hanzo First sigjack by me ever. - Garthagk Violet would be even manlier - Conuion Meow


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