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Philip Ricker Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 2	Posted - 2015.12.17 17:42:46 - [1] - Quote Ok I primarily pvp. Although I have two secondary accounts and both have Max mining skills, I love mining. What changes are coming that CCP has confirmed? Are we going to be able to mine moons via ships or only personal citadel? Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... Will CCP even bring in new mining ships or something so my training can continue to improve mining wise? As opposed to me training for other random things (although I am getting into a JF now so not a waste of skill training). But I want to continue to bring in more ore Ect. I know this has implications to further flood a market but with cap and citadels...more ore is going to be essential. I think that patch will bring more ships destroyed tons of isk lost and a ton of players 1)coming back and 2) people resubbing cap accounts. So in all I have scanned the forums does ccp plan to do much more with mining? Or is it exactly where they want it to be?
Paranoid Loyd 7754	Posted - 2015.12.17 17:45:47 - [2] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... Ninja mining is a hell of a lot more fun not to mention interactive than sucking rocks in highsec. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Philip Ricker Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 2	Posted - 2015.12.17 17:49:04 - [3] - Quote Lol ninja mining 2 mil of ore is funny. I pull in 100mil an hour in null without boosts
Philip Ricker Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 2	Posted - 2015.12.17 17:49:53 - [4] - Quote That being said I am not bragging just pointing out how inefficient it is
Paranoid Loyd 7754	Posted - 2015.12.17 17:51:08 - [5] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: That being said I am not bragging just pointing out how inefficient it is I said fun, I said nothing about efficiency. How's your exhumer at mining gas? "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Unsuccessful At Everything the troll bridge 23397	Posted - 2015.12.17 17:52:34 - [6] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Ok I primarily pvp. Although I have two secondary accounts and both have Max mining skills, I love mining. Doesnt this mean you are primarily a miner if you have 1 pvp account, and 2 maxed out mining accounts? wrote: Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... Will CCP even bring in new mining ships or something so my training can continue to improve mining wise? CCP gives you the Venture with a stab bonus so you can get into mining faster and shake off a scram... CCP gives you the Prospect with a Covert cloak and Gas mining/ore yield bonus so you ninja high ISK stuff faster... CCP gives you the Endurance with a Ice bonus and new frig sized Ice miners and a cloak so you can get tasty ices faster... But yeah... when will CCP be bringing you new mining ships so you can continue to improve mining-wise? *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Philip Ricker Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 2	Posted - 2015.12.17 17:52:55 - [7] - Quote Good point. We need a bigger gas mining ship...
Philip Ricker Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 2	Posted - 2015.12.17 17:54:27 - [8] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Philip Ricker wrote: Ok I primarily pvp. Although I have two secondary accounts and both have Max mining skills, I love mining. Doesnt this mean you are primarily a miner if you have 1 pvp account, and 2 maxed out mining accounts? wrote: Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... Will CCP even bring in new mining ships or something so my training can continue to improve mining wise? CCP gives you the Venture with a stab bonus so you can get into mining faster and shake off a scram... CCP gives you the Prospect with a Covert cloak and Gas mining/ore yield bonus so you ninja high ISK stuff faster... CCP gives you the Endurance with a Ice bonus and new frig sized Ice miners and a cloak so you can get tasty ices faster... But yeah... when will CCP be bringing you new mining ships so you can continue to improve mining-wise? Lol sorry a character older than a month... All that stuff is for toons under a few mil sp
Dr Carbonatite Corporation for Public Broadcasting 26	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:06:27 - [9] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Philip Ricker wrote: Ok I primarily pvp. Although I have two secondary accounts and both have Max mining skills, I love mining. Doesnt this mean you are primarily a miner if you have 1 pvp account, and 2 maxed out mining accounts? wrote: Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... Will CCP even bring in new mining ships or something so my training can continue to improve mining wise? CCP gives you the Venture with a stab bonus so you can get into mining faster and shake off a scram... CCP gives you the Prospect with a Covert cloak and Gas mining/ore yield bonus so you ninja high ISK stuff faster... CCP gives you the Endurance with a Ice bonus and new frig sized Ice miners and a cloak so you can get tasty ices faster... But yeah... when will CCP be bringing you new mining ships so you can continue to improve mining-wise? Lol sorry a character older than a month... All that stuff is for toons under a few mil sp Yeah that ship that uses a Covert Ops cloak is totally for brand new characters under a month old.
Unsuccessful At Everything the troll bridge 23397	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:10:30 - [10] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: CCP gives you the Venture with a stab bonus so you can get into mining faster and shake off a scram... CCP gives you the Prospect with a Covert cloak and Gas mining/ore yield bonus so you ninja high ISK stuff faster... CCP gives you the Endurance with a Ice bonus and new frig sized Ice miners and a cloak so you can get tasty ices faster... But yeah... when will CCP be bringing you new mining ships so you can continue to improve mining-wise? Lol sorry a character older than a month... All that stuff is for toons under a few mil sp Lol IM sorry. I forgot that you are primarily a miner, therefore there is a higher than normal level of entitlement i forgot to compensate for when giving you a well reasoned list of newer features, some of them literally implemented a few days ago, that were directed entirely towards the mining community. If you believe that the Endurance and the Prospect are useless, then you are not using them for their intended purpose, which is ninja mining high ISK materials in hostile space. If you are looking for a major buff to nullsec low risk pocket mining / highsec AFK mining, then i believe that you may have to wait until the Rorqual/orca rebalance is done. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Philip Ricker Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 2	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:25:06 - [11] - Quote Yeah that ship that uses a Covert Ops cloak is totally for brand new characters under a month old.[/quote] Lol yes.... Go look at training time. Less than 9 comprehensive days to use it. I have a month of bomber toon. And I don't want a buff! The reason I posted is CCP is obviously making mining changes at the frigate level do then intend to do that at the exhumer(battle cruiser) level Also "stealing" high Isk materials....you must not understand null sec mining. The field resets itself 15 minutes after it is depleted... And a frigate can't hold enough for anyone to even be bothered to care. Can they hold more tuna 5k m3? The ore is so heavy they may take 2 mil so it may be thrilling but in null we don't give a ****. And I have never ever seen one flown for that reSon. Also I will concede for gas mining it may be effective.
Philip Ricker Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 2	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:26:29 - [12] - Quote I have seen cyno prospects for hunting ships never a ninja miner
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27839	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:34:12 - [13] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: never seen a ninja miner That's the point of ninja mining ... I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Kiddoomer Deep Space Exploitation Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades 82	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:36:25 - [14] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: I have seen cyno prospects for hunting ships never a ninja miner EDIT : dammit too late Mercoxit is only in wormhole or nullsec, a Prospect is VERY good at mining the little amount of morphite I need to build a few T2 cruisers, just sayin. A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
Philip Ricker Imperium Technologies DARKNESS. 2	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:39:44 - [15] - Quote lol ok have fun in your frigates. I was just posting to see if there were some changes down the pipe. and no ninja miners don't ******* exist in deep null sec or even in places like querious. Even if they did....5k m3 down the drain omg. I was curious mainly to see if there were major changes coming so I can see if I need to train several prereq's to prep to fly a different/bigger or different type of exhumer. I.E. Exhumer for gas mining or moon mining.
Kiddoomer Deep Space Exploitation Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades 82	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:41:04 - [16] - Quote The only coming change I heard is about the Rorqual, nothing else except a industrial kind of citadel, but that will be for a long time ahead. A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
Xavindo Sirober The Merchant Marine's Test Alliance Please Ignore 20	Posted - 2015.12.17 19:45:51 - [17] - Quote Kiddoomer wrote: The only coming change I heard is about the Rorqual, nothing else except a industrial kind of citadel, but that will be for a long time ahead. Rorqual was announced late october, and the only changes announced were the general changes that happens to capitals, regarding bays and fitting. Role wise changes have not yet been announced but 2 months ago it was soon, So i presume very soon is where we are at now
Cidanel Afuran Static-Noise Upholders 512	Posted - 2015.12.17 19:54:56 - [18] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... The prospect is literally the only thing I mine in anymore. I easily get over 100 mil per hour.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27844	Posted - 2015.12.17 21:05:18 - [19] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: lol ok have fun in your frigates. I was just posting to see if there were some changes down the pipe. and no ninja miners don't ******* exist in deep null sec or even in places like querious. Even if they did....5k m3 down the drain omg. I was curious mainly to see if there were major changes coming so I can see if I need to train several prereq's to prep to fly a different/bigger or different type of exhumer. I.E. Exhumer for gas mining or moon mining. This man needs a big ship. The real question is what he needs to compensate! :D I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Dr Carbonatite Corporation for Public Broadcasting 28	Posted - 2015.12.17 21:15:48 - [20] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Lol yes.... Go look at training time. Less than 9 comprehensive days to use it. I have a month of bomber toon. You can sit in a faction battleship hull in less than a week, does that make them newbie ships too?
Unsuccessful At Everything the troll bridge 23413	Posted - 2015.12.17 21:24:33 - [21] - Quote Dr Carbonatite wrote: Philip Ricker wrote: Lol yes.... Go look at training time. Less than 9 comprehensive days to use it. I have a month of bomber toon. You can sit in a faction battleship hull in less than a week, does that make them newbie ships too? You can sit in a Gnosis day 1 minute 1 (requires only spaceship command 1), so by OP's reasoning they're useless nubby ships and i guess everyone should just give me theirs. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Cidanel Afuran Static-Noise Upholders 513	Posted - 2015.12.17 22:03:55 - [22] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Also "stealing" high Isk materials....you must not understand null sec mining. The field resets itself 15 minutes after it is depleted... And a frigate can't hold enough for anyone to even be bothered to care. Can they hold more tuna 5k m3? Um...the prospect's ore bay is only 2k m3 less than a procurer, and the endurance's ore bay is the same size as a skiffs. For anything other than AFK risk free sov null mining under the safety of massive intel channels, they are great ships for higher end ore mining. On one account the prospect IS my scout/scanning ship, because I can effectively scout out dangerous territory, and if I come across some gas/rocks I can refit and make some isk while I'm at it.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5615	Posted - 2015.12.17 22:03:57 - [23] - Quote Xavindo Sirober wrote: Kiddoomer wrote: The only coming change I heard is about the Rorqual, nothing else except a industrial kind of citadel, but that will be for a long time ahead. Rorqual was announced late october, and the only changes announced were the general changes that happens to capitals, regarding bays and fitting. Role wise changes have not yet been announced but 2 months ago it was soon, So i presume very soon is where we are at now Actually, technically, its been a bit longer: Fanfest 2014 Fanfest 2015
Xavindo Sirober The Merchant Marine's Test Alliance Please Ignore 22	Posted - 2015.12.18 02:58:35 - [24] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: Xavindo Sirober wrote: Kiddoomer wrote: The only coming change I heard is about the Rorqual, nothing else except a industrial kind of citadel, but that will be for a long time ahead. Rorqual was announced late october, and the only changes announced were the general changes that happens to capitals, regarding bays and fitting. Role wise changes have not yet been announced but 2 months ago it was soon, So i presume very soon is where we are at now Actually, technically, its been a bit longer: Fanfest 2014 Fanfest 2015 Yes its been very, very, much longer. i believe its 3 to 4 years that it was announced? What i posted were the latest announced changes regarding the rorqual
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 41931	Posted - 2015.12.18 04:03:17 - [25] - Quote Xavindo Sirober wrote: Tau Cabalander wrote: Xavindo Sirober wrote: Kiddoomer wrote: The only coming change I heard is about the Rorqual, nothing else except a industrial kind of citadel, but that will be for a long time ahead. Rorqual was announced late october, and the only changes announced were the general changes that happens to capitals, regarding bays and fitting. Role wise changes have not yet been announced but 2 months ago it was soon, So i presume very soon is where we are at now Actually, technically, its been a bit longer: Fanfest 2014 Fanfest 2015 Yes its been very, very, much longer. i believe its 3 to 4 years that it was announced? What i posted were the latest announced changes regarding the rorqual Actually, some bits were discussed at Eve Downunder just a couple of weeks ago. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Xavindo Sirober The Merchant Marine's Test Alliance Please Ignore 23	Posted - 2015.12.18 09:23:21 - [26] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Actually, some bits were discussed at Eve Downunder just a couple of weeks ago. Some details that were discussed here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3uiujv/actual_rorqual_fix_from_eve_down_under/ Edit: Tau contributed in that Reddit thread and has been active in discussion about the Rorqual for some time, so I'll totally defer to him as his comments will be a lot more meaningful than any I can make on Rorqual change announcements. Thank you for this. Totally missed this event/stream. Seems a horrible idea but ill wait till i see the video myself
SetSail ForEpicFail SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Phoenix Company Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.12.18 12:38:18 - [27] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Will CCP even bring in new mining ships or something so my training can continue to improve mining wise?? enter the mining supercapital, with a mining doomsday able to soak up an entire moon in an instant! no really, is there no patchnotes you can read?
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY 212	Posted - 2015.12.18 14:30:13 - [28] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Ok I primarily pvp. Although I have two secondary accounts and both have Max mining skills, I love mining. What changes are coming that CCP has confirmed? Are we going to be able to mine moons via ships or only personal citadel? Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... Will CCP even bring in new mining ships or something so my training can continue to improve mining wise? As opposed to me training for other random things (although I am getting into a JF now so not a waste of skill training). But I want to continue to bring in more ore Ect. I know this has implications to further flood a market but with cap and citadels...more ore is going to be essential. I think that patch will bring more ships destroyed tons of isk lost and a ton of players 1)coming back and 2) people resubbing cap accounts. So in all I have scanned the forums does ccp plan to do much more with mining? Or is it exactly where they want it to be? What youre essentially saying, is "Ive maxed up my titan, when is CCP going to release super-titans so that i can improve, Capital ship killing-wise? " What a stupid sentiment.
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. 15541	Posted - 2015.12.18 14:34:12 - [29] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Philip Ricker wrote: Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... Ninja mining is a hell of a lot more fun not to mention interactive than sucking rocks in highsec. Right? That's one of the few good things they've ever done with regards to mining. Ninja gas mining is probably the most interesting, engaging gameplay in the entire industry skill tree. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 831	Posted - 2015.12.18 14:55:08 - [30] - Quote Philip Ricker wrote: Also why the fuq did CCP spend time and money on a mining frigate or even that prospect...no one uses them really except maybe a few noobs... You will of course, have numbers to back this claim up? Fluffy Bunny Pic!

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