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Xenuria
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1027
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Posted - 2015.12.18 17:14:53 -
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The Short Version I am officially announcing my candidacy for the 11th Council of Stellar Management. I will be running solely as a reform candidate. If elected I will advocate for sweeping reforms to the CSM, it's relationship dynamics with CCP and the electoral process itself.
The Long Version
~Not Long Ago~ There was a time when I ran as a reformist candidate and was laughed at by the mainstream establishment, one former CSM member even went so far as to compare my reforms to the gestapo. This was a time of great trepidation and ignorance a wellspring of naivety and uncertainty.
~Soon After~ Controversy after controversy rattled the CSM and the eve community. Absentee delegates, NDA Violators and other assorted cloves of drama and dysfunction. Discord and demagoguery reign like a paranoid tyrant.
~Present Day~ The multitudes cry out for reform as the very foundations of the eve community tremble.
Vote XENURIA CSM This wouldn't be a Xenuria thread without a vain selfie so, here.
CSM 11 Candidate
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DaReaper
Net 7
2690
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Posted - 2015.12.18 17:50:47 -
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Define reform
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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Xenuria
1030
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:49:47 -
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DaReaper wrote:Define reform
noun 1. the improvement or amendment of what is wrong, corrupt, unsatisfactory, etc.: social reform; spelling reform. 2. an instance of this. 3. the amendment of conduct, belief, etc.
verb (used with object) 4. to change to a better state, form, etc.; improve by alteration, substitution, abolition, etc. 5. to cause (a person) to abandon wrong or evil ways of life or conduct. 6. to put an end to (abuses, disorders, etc.). 7. Chemistry. to subject to the process of reforming, as in refining petroleum. verb (used without object) 8. to abandon evil conduct or error: The drunkard promised to reform.
CSM 11 Candidate
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Christos Hendez
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
13
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Posted - 2015.12.18 20:19:30 -
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As former diplomat and leadership of Against ALL Authorities, an alliance of Russian known for our equal opportunity advancement and tolerance program, I fully support Xenuria. |

Maya Cinderfort
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.12.18 21:10:00 -
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First off: I somehow like you.
Eventhough i only saw some parts of your extended discussion in corp chat.
You jump to conclusions pretty quick. You get emotional. You get pretty attached to your point of view.
But you don't back off that easily & you certainly don't let others overtalk you.
pretty much the shithead the CSM could realy use.
so eventhough I'm not sure if you're pretty clever or maximum borderline I'll support you.
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Jeronica
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
406
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:05:33 -
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A vote for Xenuria is a trendy vote.
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Orontes Ovasi
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
22
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:07:14 -
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A vote for Xenuria is a vote for Turtlenecks. |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
196
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:41:04 -
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Orontes Ovasi wrote:A vote for Xenuria is a vote for Turtlenecks.
Unclear weather this is bad or good. Turtlenecks look good with leather skirts.
Will gank for food
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Eadwulf Ronuken
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.19 14:57:03 -
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A vote for Xenuria is a vote for entropy. Xenuria '16! |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6563
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Posted - 2015.12.20 06:33:02 -
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I first met Xenuria a few years back at a fanfest this one time. I won't go in to that any further, but what I will say is that he has matured greatly in those few years, especially after [REDACTED].
Xenuria will have a top 3 spot on my ballot.
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Lauresh Thellere
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
56
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Posted - 2015.12.20 06:51:26 -
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Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms? |

Xenuria
1037
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Posted - 2015.12.20 14:57:49 -
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Lauresh Thellere wrote:Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms?
I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items. Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do.
I am an individual that is part of something larger.
I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation.
Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer.
CSM 11 Candidate
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Lauresh Thellere
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
57
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Posted - 2015.12.21 10:47:40 -
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Xenuria wrote:Lauresh Thellere wrote:Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms? I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items. Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do. I am an individual that is part of something larger. I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation. Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer.
You were Grr Goons though, for a number of years and your platforms were based entirely around it. The only thing that's changed is you were finally allowed to join goons without being purged 5 minutes later.
I don't disagree that the CSM needs reform but simply stating the CSM needs reform is in no way a reason to vote for you, if you could share some of your ideas on HOW you want to reform the CSM then you might be taken a bit more seriously but at the moment you seem a bit flakey as a candidate. |

Xenuria
1039
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Posted - 2015.12.21 16:58:24 -
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Lauresh Thellere wrote:Xenuria wrote:Lauresh Thellere wrote:Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms? I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items. Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do. I am an individual that is part of something larger. I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation. Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer. You were Grr Goons though, for a number of years and your platforms were based entirely around it. The only thing that's changed is you were finally allowed to join goons without being purged 5 minutes later. I don't disagree that the CSM needs reform but simply stating the CSM needs reform is in no way a reason to vote for you, if you could share some of your ideas on HOW you want to reform the CSM then you might be taken a bit more seriously but at the moment you seem a bit flakey as a candidate.
Ok, I'll bite.
Reform in the context of the CSM would entail overhauling the white paper, installing safety measures, changing the language used when discussing certain topics, advocating and pushing for policy changes that encourage honesty but discourage superficial posturing. I suppose the problem is that when I say Reform I expect people to know what I mean without me having to list any number of things that are reformative.
For me it's sometimes difficult for me to explain what I mean without a specific context. Let me give you an example.
Q What are your reforms? A Uhhh
Q How would you reform the CSM NDA? A I would construct a spanning tree rubric with dates and subject tags that allowed for everybody under NDA to know explicitly what they are and are not allowed to discuss and with whom.
On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread.
CSM 11 Candidate
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1788
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Posted - 2015.12.21 21:34:23 -
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Xenuria wrote:Lauresh Thellere wrote:Xenuria wrote:Lauresh Thellere wrote:Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms? I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items. Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do. I am an individual that is part of something larger. I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation. Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer. You were Grr Goons though, for a number of years and your platforms were based entirely around it. The only thing that's changed is you were finally allowed to join goons without being purged 5 minutes later. I don't disagree that the CSM needs reform but simply stating the CSM needs reform is in no way a reason to vote for you, if you could share some of your ideas on HOW you want to reform the CSM then you might be taken a bit more seriously but at the moment you seem a bit flakey as a candidate. Ok, I'll bite. Reform in the context of the CSM would entail overhauling the white paper, installing safety measures, changing the language used when discussing certain topics, advocating and pushing for policy changes that encourage honesty but discourage superficial posturing. I suppose the problem is that when I say Reform I expect people to know what I mean without me having to list any number of things that are reformative. For me it's sometimes difficult for me to explain what I mean without a specific context. Let me give you an example. Q What are your reforms? A Uhhh Q How would you reform the CSM NDA? A I would construct a spanning tree rubric with dates and subject tags that allowed for everybody under NDA to know explicitly what they are and are not allowed to discuss and with whom. On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.
Ok, Lets try a little game of lets be serious. The CSM has had an up and down year, some members have done an amazing job (you know who you are) and some less so (likewise) what reforms do you envisage that would encourage the best of us to apply and give their all, without suffering discouragement, whilst eliminating the wasters and attention seekers and those who just want to ruin the game for the rest of us?
Answers on a postcard to.... Well here would be a good start.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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DJ FunkyBacon
Rabid Ninja Space Monkey Inc. Monkeys with Guns.
387
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Posted - 2015.12.21 23:11:04 -
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You will be first on my ballot this year sir! ...assuming CCP doesn't deep six the CSM at the end of 10.
Radio Host, Blogger, Lowsec Resident, PvP Afficionado.
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Lauresh Thellere
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
57
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Posted - 2015.12.22 03:31:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Lauresh Thellere wrote:Xenuria wrote:Lauresh Thellere wrote:Does that mean you've given up on your "grr goons" and "+10 standings should give you free ****" campaign platforms? I am mature enough to realize that there are far more important issues at hand than how standings affect vanity items. Please don't throw me in with the grr goons crowd. They don't like me any more than most goons do. I don't agree with everything goons do but I am also not required to agree with everything goons do. I am an individual that is part of something larger. I will add that there comes a point in time when all the politics and social maneuvering needs to be put on hold for the betterment of the entire community. The CSM needs reform, the circumstances demand nothing short of nonpartisan collaboration and cooperation. Those of you who know me in person know that I can be serious when I need to be and this is one of those times. If the CSM is not reformed, if intervention is not undertaken than we may not have a CSM for much longer. You were Grr Goons though, for a number of years and your platforms were based entirely around it. The only thing that's changed is you were finally allowed to join goons without being purged 5 minutes later. I don't disagree that the CSM needs reform but simply stating the CSM needs reform is in no way a reason to vote for you, if you could share some of your ideas on HOW you want to reform the CSM then you might be taken a bit more seriously but at the moment you seem a bit flakey as a candidate. Ok, I'll bite. Reform in the context of the CSM would entail overhauling the white paper, installing safety measures, changing the language used when discussing certain topics, advocating and pushing for policy changes that encourage honesty but discourage superficial posturing. I suppose the problem is that when I say Reform I expect people to know what I mean without me having to list any number of things that are reformative. For me it's sometimes difficult for me to explain what I mean without a specific context. Let me give you an example. Q What are your reforms? A Uhhh Q How would you reform the CSM NDA? A I would construct a spanning tree rubric with dates and subject tags that allowed for everybody under NDA to know explicitly what they are and are not allowed to discuss and with whom. On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.
Why do you feel the need to "bite" are you once again labeling me a troll simply because I don't swallow your entire campaign without questions and criticism?
Also assuming everyone will immediately know what you mean when you say things is poor form, sadly nobody has Mind Reading trained to V so we need to have things explained to us and reforming the CSM is something that can happen any number of ways so it's not at all assumed prior knowledge.
I'm looking for specific information on how you plan to overhaul the CSM based on your understanding of how the CSM works, you seem to be assuming that everyone can guess your plan and are instead relying on pretty vague statements. You said it's difficult for you to explain yet you're running your entire campaign on it, a CSM member needs to be articulate and specific and so far you've shown neither. |

Lydia vanPersie
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Psychotic Tendencies.
25
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Posted - 2015.12.22 07:45:41 -
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Xenuria wrote:
(snip)
On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.
Given that, how can you continue to play in an alliance that includes induviduals such as Digi? Or is doxxing only bad when it happens to you?
(^;
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Xenuria
1043
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Posted - 2015.12.22 13:33:07 -
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Lydia vanPersie wrote:Xenuria wrote:
(snip)
On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.
Given that, how can you continue to play in an alliance that includes induviduals such as Digi? Or is doxxing only bad when it happens to you?
I do not see my presence in the alliance as an endorsement of what some members of the alliance say or do. If and when somebody does something that I personally feel is inappropriate or messed up I let it be known. Do to how I am, I don't believe in showing favor to anybody because of rank, social status, influence etc. If a director in the imperium did something really messed up or creepy I would put them on blast.
I feel it's not only possible for people who don't agree on everything to work together, I believe it's essential to the survival of this game.
CSM 11 Candidate
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Mai Khumm
Lonetrek Freeport
745
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Posted - 2015.12.22 19:36:35 -
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Just cause, you have my vote!
Failscade 2016 |
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Bernie Nator
Static-Noise Upholders
1115
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Posted - 2015.12.22 23:04:22 -
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Xenuria wrote:Lydia vanPersie wrote:Xenuria wrote:
(snip)
On the subject of Grr goons it's disingenuous to lump me in with that /r/eve grr goons crowd or any grr goons crowd. My primary grievance with goons had nothing to do with anything in a spaceship game and everything to do with my home address and personal information being posted in a CSM thread by The Mittani.
Given that, how can you continue to play in an alliance that includes induviduals such as Digi? Or is doxxing only bad when it happens to you? I do not see my presence in the alliance as an endorsement of what some members of the alliance say or do. If and when somebody does something that I personally feel is inappropriate or messed up I let it be known. Do to how I am, I don't believe in showing favor to anybody because of rank, social status, influence etc. If a director in the imperium did something really messed up or creepy I would put them on blast. I feel it's not only possible for people who don't agree on everything to work together, I believe it's essential to the survival of this game. epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Ok, Lets try a little game of lets be serious. The CSM has had an up and down year, some members have done an amazing job (you know who you are) and some less so (likewise) what reforms do you envisage that would encourage the best of us to apply and give their all, without suffering discouragement, whilst eliminating the wasters and attention seekers and those who just want to ruin the game for the rest of us?
Answers on a postcard to.... Well here would be a good start.
I think vigilance and oversight are the hallmarks of a good participation system. Obviously there are some aspects of how participation is measured that I am not privy to, that said I have some ideas. When I work on anything as a behavioral consultant or even in security work, I always like to document the time I spend and what I spend it doing. Punch in - Punch out, is simply not sufficient for something like this so I would concoct a To-Doo system that allowed members of the CSM to claim or assign themselves to tasks they felt themselves best suited to. Id Est: CCP has a bunch of gameplay changes/proposals that need to be looked over half are wormholes and the other half have to do with PVE in HS. Member A of the CSM can say "I got the wormhole stuff unless anybody else want's it or wishes to collaborate with me on it." Member E says "I am not that well versed in WH stuff but I know alot about how HS mission runners think, I'll take that part". With a system like this is becomes painfully obvious via data and trends who is just not doing anything. Lauresh Thellere wrote:
Why do you feel the need to "bite" are you once again labeling me a troll simply because I don't swallow your entire campaign without questions and criticism?
Also assuming everyone will immediately know what you mean when you say things is poor form, sadly nobody has Mind Reading trained to V so we need to have things explained to us and reforming the CSM is something that can happen any number of ways so it's not at all assumed prior knowledge.
I'm looking for specific information on how you plan to overhaul the CSM based on your understanding of how the CSM works, you seem to be assuming that everyone can guess your plan and are instead relying on pretty vague statements. You said it's difficult for you to explain yet you're running your entire campaign on it, a CSM member needs to be articulate and specific and so far you've shown neither.
You seem like you want to ask a question. Unfortunately I am unable to find one other than why I should feel the need to respond to you. Honestly, based on your previous history of posting in my threads; I don't. What are the current issues with wormholes? |

Lauresh Thellere
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
57
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Posted - 2015.12.23 05:37:00 -
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Xenuria wrote: You seem like you want to ask a question. Unfortunately I am unable to find one other than why I should feel the need to respond to you. Honestly, based on your previous history of posting in my threads; I don't.
I find it disappointing and frankly a little sad that you refuse to have any real discussion on your campaign, I can only imagine how you'd be if you somehow got onto CSM. |

Mai Khumm
Lonetrek Freeport
747
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Posted - 2015.12.23 17:09:29 -
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Lauresh Thellere wrote:Xenuria wrote: You seem like you want to ask a question. Unfortunately I am unable to find one other than why I should feel the need to respond to you. Honestly, based on your previous history of posting in my threads; I don't.
I find it disappointing and frankly a little sad that you refuse to have any real discussion on your campaign, I can only imagine how you'd be if you somehow got onto CSM. Several GSF guys ran on this platform got in back-to-back. They even went as far as telling people "You're below me, and I don't have your vote anyway so go away." |

Tech3ZH
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2015.12.23 17:41:45 -
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Huh. Xenuria joined Goons, after being all grr goons for so long. Interesting. So the Goons were right, you were one of the "they hate us 'cause they aint us" crowd.
Still gonna vote for you, though.
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Lex Arson
Adversity. Psychotic Tendencies.
432
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Posted - 2015.12.23 19:19:58 -
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you have my vote even if you cuck me in local sometimes
There's no use crying after every mistake,
you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.
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Eyrun Mangeiri
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2015.12.23 20:29:31 -
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Tech3ZH wrote:Huh. Xenuria joined Goons, after being all grr goons for so long. Interesting. So the Goons were right, you were one of the "they hate us 'cause they aint us" crowd.
Still gonna vote for you, though.
He not only joined us, we kinda like him.
I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song.
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Xenuria
1044
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Posted - 2015.12.23 20:58:29 -
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Tech3ZH wrote:Huh. Xenuria joined Goons, after being all grr goons for so long. Interesting. So the Goons were right, you were one of the "they hate us 'cause they aint us" crowd.
Still gonna vote for you, though.
If you spent any amount of time actually reading my issues with goons you will find "hate" is not part of them. I feel strongly that hate is counter-productive as emotions go. I often say "Do not hate. Hate is the weapon of the enemy."
As I said earlier in the thread I was never part of the grr goons crowd. I was, and continue to be an individual with legitimate personal stake in matters relating the the goons cultural identity in new eden. This however is not a thread for discussion of social change born within a larger hegemony, this is a thread about my CSM campaign. Please make effort to stay on topic.
CSM 11 Candidate
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Tech3ZH
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2015.12.24 02:10:30 -
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Xenuria wrote: If you spent any amount of time actually reading my issues with goons... ... Please make effort to stay on topic.
THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!?! 
I consider myself properly chastised.
Still gonna vote for you.
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Lauresh Thellere
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
58
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Posted - 2015.12.25 11:00:19 -
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Xenuria wrote:Tech3ZH wrote:Huh. Xenuria joined Goons, after being all grr goons for so long. Interesting. So the Goons were right, you were one of the "they hate us 'cause they aint us" crowd.
Still gonna vote for you, though.
If you spent any amount of time actually reading my issues with goons you will find "hate" is not part of them. I feel strongly that hate is counter-productive as emotions go. I often say "Do not hate. Hate is the weapon of the enemy." As I said earlier in the thread I was never part of the grr goons crowd. I was, and continue to be an individual with legitimate personal stake in matters relating the the goons cultural identity in new eden. This however is not a thread for discussion of social change born within a larger hegemony, this is a thread about my CSM campaign. Please make effort to stay on topic.
With respect, discussing the man campaigning is just as important and "on topic" as discussing the words he writes, you still don't seem to understand that your campaign is about you just as much as your platform.
Ultimately the words you write are worthless if we don't know enough about you as a person and as a candidate. |

Xenuria
1046
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Posted - 2015.12.25 17:55:38 -
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Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:Tech3ZH wrote:Huh. Xenuria joined Goons, after being all grr goons for so long. Interesting. So the Goons were right, you were one of the "they hate us 'cause they aint us" crowd.
Still gonna vote for you, though.
He not only joined us, we kinda like him.
The feeling is mutual.
CSM 11 Candidate
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