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Izumi Mayu
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Posted - 2007.01.16 18:00:00 -
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I am having problems getting my FPS up, and yes, I have seen the FPS sticky and tried everything in it. Nothing seems to help. I have updated my video card drivers, disabled 2nd monitor, done the advancedDevice=1 trick and disabled or lowered graphical settings, I've turned off sound. I just can't seem to get my FPS over 20 in-flight and 30 docked. Sometimes it drops to around 5 FPS in certain battles. Can anyone help?
pentium 3.4 ghz, 2.5 gigs DDR2 RAM, nvidia 7600GT, sound blaster audigy 2
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.16 19:41:00 -
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You probably have, but make sure that your client is set to the same resolution as your desktop, and a defragment can help.
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Izumi Mayu
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Posted - 2007.01.16 19:59:00 -
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Yeah, it defaults to desktop resolution and I've tried lowering it as well. I have also defragmented.
At this point I'm guessing it's my connection, which is a bummer.
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.16 20:37:00 -
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What is your connection speed?
And you can play eve on a 56k modem without too much trouble..
I helped - Cortes
What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir
Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus
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Izumi Mayu
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Posted - 2007.01.16 21:32:00 -
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I have a cable Internet connection. I don't think problem lies so much in the speed of my connection but in the route that my packets are taking. When I do a traceroute on the packets, I come up with some horrible results.
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GodsWill
Amarr
OHM Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.16 23:46:00 -
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The connection is not going to affect your FPS. It's gotta be something running in the background in Windows that's sucking up all the ressources. Try running some anti-virus and anti-spyware/adware programs and see if something turns up. Though the best way to deal with stuff like that is formatting the harddrive and reinstalling Windows.
Your rig should be absolutely capable of running 100+ fps in space, so it defenitely is something software-wise.
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Dai007
Caldari
Crabbs
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Posted - 2007.01.17 04:02:00 -
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Have you tried your physical graphic card settings via the nvidia control panel? You may them set on extreme settings. Full AA etc
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Hubaduba
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Posted - 2007.01.17 06:07:00 -
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Even with full AA on 7600GT you can have decent FPS. What resolution are you using? Check CPU temperature - if overheated, MB/CPU can drop frequency to prevent damage to CPU. Check process monitor for processes taking much CPU.
2.5 Gig RAM seems strange. What module combination are you using? Try removing 0.5 G and make sure that memory is working in dual-channel mode for maximum performance.
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Izumi Mayu
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Posted - 2007.01.17 16:31:00 -
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GodsWill: I'm pretty good about keeping my system clean. I did a virus scan and nothing has shown up. I don't see any suspicious processes running either. I don't understand where the problem is because even if it was something like that, I should still get a performance increase by lowering graphics settings. As it is, I get the same FPS when I have everything maxed out as I do when I have everything turned down (around 35 FPS docked and 27-20 in space).
Dai007: I have a custom profile for EVE and everything is set to the lowest setting or off.
Hubaduba: I usually run at 1280x1024, but I've dropped it down to 1024x768 and have not seen an improvement. According to the nvidia panel, my graphics card is at 52C which seems fine, I don't know what the CPU is at. I haven't seen the CPU getting pegged though. I have 2.5 gigs of RAM because I have 2 1 gig sticks in 1 channel and 2 256 meg sticks in another.
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Hubaduba
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Posted - 2007.01.17 18:14:00 -
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Does other games/benchmarks run ok (try running 3Dmark 05)? For CPU temperature I can suggest speedfan (free). Are you using fresh install or at some point things went wrong?
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Daka Daka
Boreel Enigma
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Posted - 2007.01.18 08:48:00 -
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hmm,
i would think you should be getting at least 50-60 in the station with that card.
this does sound very odd just got a 1950pro and i'm getting 200fps in station and about 79->119 outside running at 1600x.
i would go into safe mode remove all your gf drivers with driver cleaner then reinstall from scratch.
Dak
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Baron Oxes
Hypermagic Mountain
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Posted - 2007.01.18 09:49:00 -
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You should be getting a lot more from your 7600GT, I think I get around 100 FPS docked.
Are you sure the only things running on your machine are Eve and Windows? Ie. no Windows Media Player, no browsers, no messaging programs, no P2P software, no taskbar full of things you don't need?
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Vala Draaken
Gallente
Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.18 13:05:00 -
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Here are some guesses based on what you've written so far.
The problem is not in the graphics, as you yourself write the FPS is not affected at all, by any change you've made to the graphics settings. Or the profile you made for Eve does not go into effect. Try lowering the defaults.
If it's not your graphics, then it's either your CPU that is throtteling down, or your RAM which is not performing. I'd get something like Sandra Lite (free) and test your CPU and RAM. This also follows the general opinion that Eve-performance is CPU-bound and not graphics-bound.
Also having 2 GB in one channel and 512 MB in the other channel does not sound right. Dual channel usually only gets a performance benefit when the RAM sizes are equal in each channel.
Just some suggestions,
Vala D.
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Mdram
Caldari
Eastern Heritage
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.01.18 13:15:00 -
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i had fps issues one nite, i cleaned the eve cache, and it all went away
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Izumi Mayu
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Posted - 2007.01.18 23:17:00 -
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Thank you all for your replies.
Hubaduba: I've gotten WoW to run at 70-100 FPS when I lower settings. Unfortunately, there is no CPU temp sensor on this board so I'm not able to find out what it is. This is a fresh install.
Baron Oxes: I'm sure there is nothing else running. I keep a clean system. I don't even use an administrator account as the default account.
Vala Draaken: I think there may be some throttling somewhere at this point. It's hard to pinpoint with this horrible Dell motherboard though. As for the RAM, there are 2 channels. I have 2 1 GB sticks in one channel, and 2 256 MB sticks in another. They are matched to each other. I've tried removing the 256 sticks and not had any improvement.
Mdram: I've cleaned out the cache a couple times, but no luck.
I've ordered a new motherboard and hopefully it will tie my other components together better than my current motherboard. The CPU and RAM should be running at max frequency with the new board. One thing I did notice, though, was that I didn't actually create the profile properly. I was lowering settings for eve.exe but the actually game runs as ExeFile.exe. I've tested this at work and I squeezed out some more FPS. Hopefully it will also benefit my machine at home.
Thanks again for all the replies.
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Vala Draaken
Madhatters Inc.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 00:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Izumi Mayu
I have 2 1 GB sticks in one channel, and 2 256 MB sticks in another. They are matched to each other. I've tried removing the 256 sticks and not had any improvement.
I think, what you need to do with the dual channel to get the performance is, have 1 GB and one 256 MB stick in one channel, and another 1 GB and 256 MB stick in the other channel.
That is what is meant by having matching sticks. That each stick in one channel has a matching stick in the other channel.
Vala D.
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Seth Allasatre
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Posted - 2007.01.19 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vala Draaken
I think, what you need to do with the dual channel to get the performance is, have 1 GB and one 256 MB stick in one channel, and another 1 GB and 256 MB stick in the other channel.
That is what is meant by having matching sticks. That each stick in one channel has a matching stick in the other channel.
Vala D.
This is most certainly wrong. Most motherboards expect your matching DIMMs to be right next to each other on the same channel for DDR performance. A lot of them are even color coded.
For what it's worth, I also don't get great FPS out of Eve despite having a well-tuned system. My 3dmark scores are just as expected and frame rates are high in everything else I play. Eve is far too CPU reliant. It's a shame that I have an excellent video card (7800GS) yet the game offloads very little to the GPU. I blame my 3.2ghz Pentium.
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Narusegawa Naru
Gallente
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Izumi Mayu
I was lowering settings for eve.exe but the actually game runs as ExeFile.exe.
I had to do that for my G15 profiles which are similar, .exe based. I didn't notice in the thread but have you told your virus scanner to exclude the Eve folder? Just curious, cos I have that done and as such I saw a large fps boost from that.
Also having the windows pagefile on a seperate IDE channel that your Windows/Eve folder makes for best throughput performance. Personally I have 3 drives, 1 for windows and applications, 1 for games and 1 for temp files/pagefile
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Vala Draaken
Madhatters Inc.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Allasatre
Originally by: Vala Draaken
I think, what you need to do with the dual channel to get the performance is, have 1 GB and one 256 MB stick in one channel, and another 1 GB and 256 MB stick in the other channel.
That is what is meant by having matching sticks. That each stick in one channel has a matching stick in the other channel.
Vala D.
This is most certainly wrong. Most motherboards expect your matching DIMMs to be right next to each other on the same channel for DDR performance. A lot of them are even color coded.
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I apologise for taking this slightly off-topic.
It certainly is not wrong. I refer you to Kingstons white paper on Dual-channel (PDF). On page 8 just below the illustration, it clearly states that matching sticks should go in each channel. And also the illustration at the top of page 9.
Granted, motherboard manufacturers differ on the color-coding. On some motherboards you should put the matching stick in same-colored slots (as is the case on the page 2 illustration in the link). On other motherboards you have to put them in different-colored slots to get the correct placement. You'll have to read the motherboard manual or markings on the motherboard to find out how yours is.
Colorcoding aside, my point is, you do not put the matching sticks in the same channel, because then it wouldn't be dual-channel, would it?
Vala D.
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Hubaduba
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:33:00 -
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Vala D. seems right. To make sure, try cpu-z, memory tab - it shows is memory layout dual or not. Anyway, I doubt it can cause such performance drop. In 1024x768 FSAA max ANISO max I have near 50 fps on missions. My config: c2d e6300 (not overclocked), GF 7900gs, 1G ram.
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Darko Minoa
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Posted - 2007.01.19 18:31:00 -
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One thing I did that help my computer that has not been mentioned in this thread is make sure that the IRQ for the video card doesn't have anything else with it. My NVIDA card was on IRQ 23 and I also had a USB port on the same IRQ setting. I turned off the USB and got about a 10-20% increase in FPS.
Good luck
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