You slavers need to calm down. Go take a nice long bath, then have a massage followed by a good glass of alcohol and relax. Geez Louise do you always have to see new stuff to be offended about? I don't recall mass protests when CONCORD handed out copies of Pax Amarria. You can't have it both ways.

Oh PIE... stick to your Jamylite corruptions of power I depend upon thy counter. However, while I am not sure of the distribution method, what I do know FOR CERTAIN* is that it was our Amarr Theology Council that made the declaration that Max Amarria is no longer illegal. Deal with it.

Also, to the others that claim I am not within the Empire... sorry, but yes I always have, and always will be. Put in better words than thee is the following quote...

The Republic allowed the Pax Amarria to be freely distributed.

It allows Amarrian missionaries to spread their scriptures and preach their religious beliefs without fear of governmental sanction or interference.

The measure of any free society, with regards to speech, is how well it protects words and ideas deemed hateful, repugnant or otherwise offensive by the majority.

...if the aim was not to kill anyone, just to end the show, well executed.

Good for you. Although House Sarum should not be blamed.



Now this I differ with you. I understand and commend PIE's role as protector of the Empress/Emperor, however, protecting a tyrant on the thrown without due course of reason is treason.

Just days before Jamyl Sarum II's return, many leaders and distinguished members went missing. There was not much time to investigate because after the great battle and her re-emergence, the military victory and clean up of Karsoth's regime was indeed welcomed, but her power came unjustly despite the means. The surviving Theology Council members were quick to instate her as Empress due to her power. All organizations and Houses bowed in silence to that power, yet many kept their ethics and convictions silent, in that someday, something would have to be done and bring this these matters to attention.

PIE's position was to simply support the Empress with fervor, and unquestioning loyalty (or fear). I had stopped calling these extremists Sarumites after several prominent members of House Sarum showed me their evidences and disdain for their errant daughter. Thus, Jamylites are those that refused legal discourse and redress by simply abusing passages of the written word of God, which in itself is its own form of sacrilege.

Now to be fair, some members of PIE have also convinced me that not all PIE members agreed, just as there was a silent faction of House Sarum members. My hope is that all organizations and PIE, will always keep a watchful eye, as well as protect our leaders from harm. Beyond all else, the Empire, and the people must come first based upon rational and law. Defend from scourge like the Blood Raiders, Sansha, and the Drifters.

Jamyl is gone. Only a fool fights in a burning house and we have real threats to deal with.

I'm still not convinced CONCORD is in the delivery business. Citation needed.

Regards... Max Singularity

First of all the government had no part in the killing of Jarek or the terrorist bombing that you love to harp on. My point was that they were free to enter our space and conduct their affairs without fear of governmental interference. That they had to deal with the consequences of their ill-advised, provocative and, quite frankly, foolish actions has no bearing on the fact that the Republic did not interfere with them.

Second, you pull a snippet of a post with no context and extrapolate from it that Gradient is selective in its support for free speech. You are being at the very least disingenuous and at the most willfully intellectually dishonest. I've known Elsebeth Rhiannon for a number of years and can tell you that she is oath bound to support the laws of the Republic. There's no way that she would support terrorism. It's a shame that your personal enmity towards her has caused you to besmirch her good name in such a manner.

Much the same as the difference between you folks in PIE and Nauplius eh?

Not that I'd expect you you to admit it.

That would just be bad PR.

More of that false equivalence and intellectual dishonesty on display for all to see, eh? Last time I checked U'K clearly turned away from supporting the Republic's laws and legally elected government during the time of the Midular appeasement regime while Gradient remained firmly loyal to the Republic's duly elected government, its laws and ideals. While U'K made a self-aggrandizing foray into null sec sovereignty Gradient continued to fight pirates and other criminals in Republic space and also joined the TLF to fight against Imperial aggression.

Do keep trying to paint Gradient, an honorable and steadfast Republic loyalist organization as some kind of terror outfit though Blake. We can all use a good laugh.

Indeed. We believed that Imperial Human Resources were trafficking in abducted Republic citizens. As I recall Interviews with the people we recovered from them confirmed this. And the agent work many of us had done confirmed that said abductions did occur (and still do).

Of course your organisation chose not to believe this and declared war on us over it. I suppose you would have had us petition the MIO on the matter. However, as you may recall, this was back in Karsoth's term as Chamberlain when there was no Emperor on the throne. The same Karsoth who turned out to be a Blooder. I think we had good reason to mistrust Imperial due process.

I never saw PIE striking at the Sansha and their ilk either