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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ugluuk on 19/01/2007 02:30:59 Since there is many forum warriors after us who keep bugging my inbox with questions, and the daily harrasement every 5 min in local im posting this to clear something up for those it involves..
Since im a privateer it`s basically all of you..
Everyone who know`s BYDI and have fought Bydi know we aren`t afraid of loosing a ship or 5 if there is a fight waiting for us.. Joining Privateers were something we knew would make people look down at us, but we love it..
We get lots of wars and we seriously love every single one of them.. The excitement of undocking to red flashies, the joy we get when killing them.. No rules holding us back or expensive wars we pay ourselfes to find 3 targets every 6 hour..
Seems like we got the perfect EVE life right?
NOPE..The smack is insane
As an example i had a vexor outside my station today who got so proud in local..Omfg i made him dock his BS with a cruiser..
what he didn`t see was the 6 tempest sitting 120km from me who were war targets..
Also Dark Shikari`s maelstroem made us dock our 2 megathron..he also commented it in local not knowing about the hostile scorp keeping us insta jammed..
So i just wanna let people know:
YES we do want to fight you.. We will do it once we get the chance.. And it will be fun..
But just have patience with us..
I know you only have 5 in your gang and we are 7..But the other 6 gangs with 5 pilots in them waiting for us too undock dont feel like giving us 1vs1..
Please people..Ask us in local and accept our answer..
But please let my inbox be alone..It`s bleeding from all the mails about forrest gump..
This is only a mail from BYDI as a privateer member..
My killboard stats in privateers |

Pepperami
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.19 02:38:00 -
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Clearly ugluuk, you're not trying hard enough.
Just kidding, love you really  
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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: Ugluuk on 19/01/2007 02:37:09
Originally by: Pepperami Clearly ugluuk, you're not trying hard enough.
Just kidding, love you really  
Hehe..you know me mate.Trying to give everyone pleasure but my isk making machine has started going backwards in my wallet so being a bit more careful now..
Just feels good to let people be aware of it and maybe 0,5% of them remember it in space..Deleting more mails than playing atm..

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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 02:41:00 -
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Thats like declaring war on the USA and then only wanting to fight one state at a time.
You declared war on 60 alliances. Fight 60 alliances.
You activly instigated war against thousands of players, now your hiding since they dont have the decency to come at you a few at a time.
What a bizarre world.
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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Ugluuk on 19/01/2007 02:43:33
Originally by: Montaire
You declared war on 60 alliances. Fight 60 alliances.
Trying too..I love all the wars..Still christmas on my computer..
But lots of wars means many people who want a fight..And when we are camped in by 5-6 pilots for each member we got there we cant do that all the time cause suicide cost`s..
So if maybe 30-40 guys remember this post when we aren`t coming out to fight when they want us too i can avoid lots of smacktalk and ****mails..Would be awesome..
Only negative experience with privateers is the continous spamming by frustrated people wanting pvp from us..
My killboard stats in privateers |

maomini
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Posted - 2007.01.19 02:54:00 -
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Blow up/beat the opposition and get smacked, applies to every competitive game since Pong. :)
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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 02:56:00 -
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Gonna log for the night now..
just clearing up once more that this post is just a reminder to our war targets to please think over how many other hostiles for us you can have besides you, before turning on the smack and pushing down the release button..
What made it go over the edge and making me write this post was a guy that heard i had become a dad and tried to use my 3 month old daughter to bait me out to fight..
I tolerate eve related smack, but when your frustration over not getting a fight makes you go so far to say you wish my daughter something bad i have to do something about it..
Please remember this post next time you wanna look down at me for not coming out and keep the smack inside you instead..
My killboard stats in privateers |

DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.19 03:02:00 -
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oh nooes.
another "I got blobbed in empire" sob story.
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{2007.01.07 15:49:20 Notify Pretax Metron has initiated self-destruct of their Chimera} |

oDDiTy V2
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.19 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter oh nooes.
another "I got blobbed in empire" sob story.

If you knew Ugluuk at all you'd know this wasn't a sob story at all. Hell, if you read the OP you'd know it wasn't a sob story.
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 03:15:00 -
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Smack against pvp'ers that like to fight against the odds and for fun is ftl.  -
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 03:21:00 -
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TBH this is why we were disappointed with the Priv war. We'd travel 20-30 jumps to find a big enough group of you, to see two other similar sized gang's from two other alliances camping the same station. So mostly we just turned around and went back home.
We only got a couple of fights i think.
Originally by: Ice Conch In soviet russia, soap drops you!
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.19 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: oDDiTy V2
Originally by: DHB FooFighter oh nooes.
another "I got blobbed in empire" sob story.

If you knew Ugluuk at all you'd know this wasn't a sob story at all. Hell, if you read the OP you'd know it wasn't a sob story.
I read privateers under his name and figured i had a 50-50 chance it was a sob story  --------------------------------------------
{2007.01.07 15:49:20 Notify Pretax Metron has initiated self-destruct of their Chimera} |

munchy
Prison Break Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 04:37:00 -
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Sorry to hear you're getting loadsa smack ugluuk, its always annoying when your enemy wont stop screaming in local.
These days you would have thought people would understand that when you have empire wars with a good percentage of alliances ingame, theyre not the only ones out there trying to kill you. GL in privateers it sounds like a hell off a time in there  ---
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 04:59:00 -
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But what I dont get it that, in the end, you ASKED to fight multiple alliances.
You have all these people after you by your choosing. You have asked for it.
And now, your docked up in a station avoiding it.
Huh ?
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SibSpi
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire But what I dont get it that, in the end, you ASKED to fight multiple alliances.
You have all these people after you by your choosing. You have asked for it.
And now, your docked up in a station avoiding it.
Huh ?
Do people in this forum ever read past alliance tags?  ------------- When in doubt, F1->F8... |

Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 05:46:00 -
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I read his post. I understand it all, and I feel the same anger he does that someone took it personal.
Its like going to McDonalds and ordering a Big Mac Combo meal. Then getting ****ed when it comes with Fries.
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oDDiTy V2
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.19 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter I read privateers under his name and figured i had a 50-50 chance it was a sob story 
/me shuts up from now on
I'll let it slide... this time.  
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.19 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire I read his post. I understand it all, and I feel the same anger he does that someone took it personal.
Its like going to McDonalds and ordering a Big Mac Combo meal. Then getting ****ed when it comes with Fries.
No, it's more like the fries smacking him for not eating them at the same time he's got his mouth full of big mac.
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.19 06:25:00 -
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Smacktalkers are just trying to cover up their own unimportance.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Mi Lai
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.19 07:12:00 -
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If I say something nice in this topic, may I then lick your bald, masculine skull?
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 07:38:00 -
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Crap, my analogy got owned.
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
No, it's more like the fries smacking him for not eating them at the same time he's got his mouth full of big mac.
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El Covah
Die Diener Melkors
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Posted - 2007.01.19 07:42:00 -
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This gets my "most hilarious thread" of the week. Wardeccing thousands of people and then staying docked.
Maybe you better ask you "targets" to come in haulers next time so you can shoot them? *New sig coming soon* |

Plan Neun
Caldari Ganja Unlimited CORE.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire Thats like declaring war on the USA and then only wanting to fight one state at a time.
You declared war on 60 alliances. Fight 60 alliances.
You activly instigated war against thousands of players, now your hiding since they dont have the decency to come at you a few at a time.
What a bizarre world.
It's like wardecking USA and kill embassy personel in 3rd world.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:18:00 -
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Luckily I haven't got smack against me or my corporation but we do fight against odds and take bait and suffer blobs and never really smack our enemy - usually just say "gf" on local.
Perhaps some people just needs to grow up. Oh and I need to get my reputation up so I can see flashly inbox with smacktalk. I tried to troll Verone but he didn't take my bait  Playing Caldari-Online as a Amarr specced is PURE Hardcore (aka. stupid).
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Plan Neun
Caldari Ganja Unlimited CORE.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Plan Neun on 19/01/2007 08:33:42
Originally by: Kuolematon Luckily I haven't got smack against me or my corporation but we do fight against odds and take bait and suffer blobs and never really smack our enemy - usually just say "gf" on local.
Perhaps some people just needs to grow up. Oh and I need to get my reputation up so I can see flashly inbox with smacktalk. I tried to troll Verone but he didn't take my bait 
Verone got style he is old school and I respect oldschool.
Well what is a bit pathetic here is that Privateers go head high and bragg about the amounts of targets. And when the table turns, well read OP.
In Jita day before yesterday the Privateers camped Jita IV M4 and they fought against Industrialsships, plaff boom plaff. What a battle of epic's.
Vuff Vuff
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 19/01/2007 08:29:27
I actually feel sorry for Privateers at the moment as they seem to have bitten off WAY more than they can chew...
Why you ask?
Well over the last two nights I have been part of a CVA group specifically looking for Privateers to kill in Empire.
Everytime we find more than a couple and head towards their camp we usually find someone else has had the same idea. 
An example - two nights ago we got reports of 6 Privateers in Renyn - the CVA squad headed over there to teach the Privateers a lesson and decided to lay a trap. We sent in bait - only to find that in this instance RAZOR alliance had already sent a fleet in, killed some Privateers and broken up the camp - and this experience was repeated with other camps as well...
TBH Privateers do seem to have a good fighting spirit and a willingness to fight vs poor odds - yet they are so amazingly blobbed at the moment that actually finding any Privateers to kill before everyone else does is actually a bit of a struggle.
But then again they did bring it on themselves. It will be interesting to see if they will actually have to cut back on their 'as many wars as possible' principle in order to actually be able to operate even semi-effectively again.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:32:00 -
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While I can understand the frustration, I think its an inherent flaw of the path Privateers has chosen to follow and thus their own fault really.
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Nicholai Pestot
Gallente Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:38:00 -
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To be honest when i pirate some little NPC'er in a belt and they smack i don't begrudge them it.I don't smack myself, but i have to take into account that I did just hurt em.
They are as free to say what they want (within the bounds of the EULA) as I am free to kill them and eat their corpse.
These people are free to smack you as much as they want as you are to war dec em all (yarr!) and every word you have said in here would be better said in-game to the people actually doing the smacking.
Keep up the good work though 
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Obijameskenobi
Caldari Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Miners With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:52:00 -
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Whether you agree with the Privateers style or not doesnt mean you smack them. I personnaly dont agree with their playing style, but do I smack them in local?.... No I dont. Do I use personal RL insults and taunting to bait them?..... No I dont.
Whether the Privateers have bit off more than they can chew doesnt matter, they will play their way, when it suits them (they have said this in previous posts), if you dont like it, tough, dont smack them in local.
We all play this game the way we want to play it, but the day when a pilot starts using RL insults to bait a pilot is a really sad day for EVE.
Obi
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kerfira on 19/01/2007 09:09:53 Tbh, what I read in the OP is: "When we gank paople, it's ok, but we don't think it's fair when other people want to gank us!"
Privateers are nothing but a cheap gank-squad. The gang up on people in empire (often people who don't really know how to fight), and then when they face the slightest risk, they let their privateer characters stay in stations. Pretty cowardly way of playing, imho....
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:30:00 -
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Do you honestly in any sense of the word think you can empire war dec someone without it turning into a huge smackfest?
Oh and another news story for you mate, 99% of the carebears you fight will never ever have stepped onto this part of the forums. They are not playing the same game you are, stop trying to communicate with them through here. You just look like a crybaby.
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Waragha
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:31:00 -
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Recruit more privateers! We want more targets! With the pew pew and the swooooosh, rattatata etc.
Originally by: Trepkos
The only difference between GS and NPC's are that GS respawn quicker.
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Anastasia DC
Gallente Death Monkey's With Knives O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk
Joining Privateers were something we knew would make people look down at us, but we love it..
OK, just for my piece of mind, so you knew you were joining an alliance that everyone hates, and some of the reason for this is BECAUSE Privateers smack. Alot.
Originally by: Ugluuk
Seems like we got the perfect EVE life right?
AND you expected a "perfect" EvE life?
Originally by: Ugluuk
YES we do want to fight you.. We will do it once we get the chance.. And it will be fun..
AND you want to fight us on your terms, which for the rest of your alliance is normally only against haulers, or 5v1 fights, trying to disrupt an alliance's empire business?
Originally by: Ugluuk
But just have patience with us..
AND you want sympathy?
You sir, are playing the wrong game... Methinks...
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Regma
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:51:00 -
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When we got the war dec in a few of us hit empire for a change, and it's pretty much how uugluk described it. Although I never came across one of your gangs.
Where we found privateers, they tended to be docked, with some random alliance camp outside the with god knows how many bs with drones deployed, etc. It's very difficult to tell what's going on, but I assume they were flashing red to you.
Anyway, it looks like it's a lot of fun for you guys.
PS, Empire fts.  --
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Smagd on 19/01/2007 09:54:12 This thread is a prime example of why CAOD is going to shambles:
Selective reading.
People skim over the OP and think they recognize the pattern: Privateer, docking from a blob - presto, let's smack them.
Well imagine that: That's is EXACTLY NOT what he Ugluuk was complaining about.
- Ugluuk is top #2 on the Privateers killboard, and this with 3 weeks membership against OLD privateers. And check his solo kill rate vs. ganks. His signature links to it. You see anyone contesting the truth of that?
- Reread the OP. He's complaining about his DAMN MAILBOX overfilling with SMACK.
- Even BoB admits they're smacking him because the Privateer alliance tag under his name, JUST for THAT. 50% chance it's valid. Good thing that was in jest, or was it?
Anyway, enough fanboyism. Ugluuk, keep rocking them and file the damn petition for real life threats.
Edit: Haha, just checked the killboard link myself: They did get Dark Shikaris Maelstrom, too, haha! AND the jamming Scorpion!
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd - Ugluuk is top #2 on the Privateers killboard, and this with 3 weeks membership against OLD privateers. And check his solo kill rate vs. ganks. His signature links to it. You see anyone contesting the truth of that?
Damn, my corp has dropped to #3 place. Stige come back!   Playing Caldari-Online as a Amarr specced is PURE Hardcore (aka. stupid).
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter oh nooes.
another "I got blobbed in empire" sob story.

made me lol
who is Ugluk btw?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.19 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/01/2007 10:55:12
Originally by: Ugluuk Also Dark Shikari`s maelstroem made us dock our 2 megathron..he also commented it in local not knowing about the hostile scorp keeping us insta jammed..
GF btw, 5v1 but still quite fun 
I can tank 4 ships, but Ugluuk's Megathron broke my shield tank of doom  
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.01.19 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter oh nooes.
another "I got blobbed in empire" sob story.

The way I read it was the OP was simply asking people not to smack when they don't know the full facts of the situation (and that's fair enough, you see a lot of pilots smacking/chest-beating when they are on the 'big' side), and wasn't actually complaining about being blobbed in empire... ----------
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Puke Skystalker
Minmatar The Mystical Order
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Posted - 2007.01.19 11:06:00 -
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Just ignore the smack talk, block them and kill them first. It's a sign you've got them scared or their frustrations that they can't carebear in Empire whilst they gang-bang noob ships at their favorite 0.0 blob camp. The ones who don't smack are the ones to watch out for, they focus on wrecking your ship and not psyche.
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cptblood
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.19 11:50:00 -
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I have seen the BYDI guys and alot of other Privateers fighting in empire the last few weeks,almost everytime highly outnumbered but more often than not they seem to win the fights.respect to them for fighting against the odds , but when the odds are as high as Ugluuk says they have been, it would be stupid to undock.The sign of a great pvper is knowing when you can win (even against the odds) and when to go make a coffee when the odds are stupid.
Kill em all BYDI let god sort them out
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Lucas Smaise
x13
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Posted - 2007.01.19 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire But what I dont get it that, in the end, you ASKED to fight multiple alliances.
You have all these people after you by your choosing. You have asked for it.
And now, your docked up in a station avoiding it.
Huh ?
Read his post ffs. He is not complaining about being outnumbered. He is just sick and tired of people spamming his mail box complaining that they dont fight when outnumbered.
Should he just undock with his 5 BS to get insta rapped by 20 hostiles (from 4 different gangs) or wait till he has a fair chance to get some kills in return.
Some people (alliance people) just dont seem to understand this sometimes.
Lucas Smaise
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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ugluuk on 19/01/2007 12:24:39 Thanx for the good words people..
This post proves that people see the Privateer tag and think about Ollobrains at once without even reading what i said before replying..
I never complained about many targets..yesterday i had many great fights against good and known pvp pilots/corp`s so blobbing aint actually a big part of my day..
I have 166 kills:
Only 4 of them are industrials..That time is over..People aren`t flying them loaded thru empire like it was 1 month ago..
All i want is to get some peace from my inbox spammage..If you want a fight and know Bydi is around there are good chances and we will attack when we get the chance to take one gang down with us..
Evidence that we fight what we find comes in my next movie which i start making today so not gonna talk more about that cause it speaks for itself..
Coming lots of fleet action from Bydi in privateers and some fraps of me trying to pilot a blasterthron for the first time..
Anwyays, i have gotten 2 apologies in my inbox today..Which made this post worth it for me cause i feel personal stuff aint got noting with Eve to do..
Lets keep the fight in space guys..And remember,Bydi is Bydi..We just get many good wars in Privateers..
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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.19 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Dekiri on 19/01/2007 12:34:50 I think the concept is just to new for people to realize the way it works and that privateers can't really be treated like another alliance. There are a couple of very good pvp corps in privateers and you being one of them no doubt.
Once people get used to the concept that attitude might change though =)
All the best for you!
PS: Props to the person who made up this business model. It is hard to create something original and new in eve and privateers no matter how "lame" people might find it is definitly one of those new concepts.
--------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur |

James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.19 12:50:00 -
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Stupid amounts of alliance forum warriors in here stating that 'OH YEAH Privateers have bitten off more than they can chew now for sure, we r 1337, our e-peens are huge, prepare for deepthroat rapage!'
Which doesn't excactly convey a stellar understanding of what the OP wrote.
Rock on BYDI  -----
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Doktor Soet
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.19 12:57:00 -
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well personally i can "proudly" say i never smack anyone i fight. no matter if i get killed or kill someone. i think thats just good behavior and i sometimes enjoy talking to opponents in local bout the fight afterwards (as long is i get my pod out or they ).
some people dont seem to know that pvp people like to pick their fights and try to fight only if there is at least a little chance to win a fight (or at least thats what i try to do). i mean who would risk his 200 mill bs just to give an oponent a fight? and some people dont seem to get it and get angry cause u take away the fun for them. cause 1 thing is for sure, camping a station for hours aint fun *lol* bringing real live into game (as u said it happend with ur child) is not acceptable. i hope this wasn`t a member of the alliance i`m in.
Originally by: Ugluuk Edited by: Ugluuk on 19/01/2007 12:24:39 Anwyays, i have gotten 2 apologies in my inbox today..Which made this post worth it for me cause i feel personal stuff aint got noting with Eve to do..
good to know that some people realize its just a game and hopefully fun for all.
cu in space somewhere, sometime. hopefully both of us heavily armed 
soet
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 13:02:00 -
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On the subject of 'smacking' Privateers I have been getting evemails/convos merely for having created their alliance (even though they are shooting CVA atm )
Here are two examples:
Name Removed of Anonymous Corp - Title 'Warrior Prime'
So you and your 489 person alliance has declared war on us:
2007.01.13 00:53 I wont make it mutual, that would just be stupid to make it so, and help you pay to kill my ships off. GM fate says I have to love pirates, and I can't annoy you in local. I will obey this dictate, so, while you are killing me, expect me to send you notes of forgiveness. LOVE, PEACE Name Removed of Anonymous Corp
p.s, If you wish to surrender, it will cost you 50 million isk.
Followed by:
Intersesting
2007.01.13 01:05 The CVA has decided to declare proxy war on me. Never have i done anything bad to them, I even gave them a hint on a blood raider group. Well, I'll spend a few billion on spying on all your locations and telling your enemies where to find you., This will be on the site http://eve-rr.com/cvamustdie This may take some time. Good covert ops spies cost time and money. CIAO!
and finally:
I apologize
2007.01.13 04:20 you've war decked us and someone explained that you do that to everyone... which means your RESPECTING us by gracing us with you kind offer of war. I will make it mutual. God Bless You.,
My response:
Thank you for your blessing but I have not war decced you.
I have a job making alliances... I get paid for it and then I return home. See this URL: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=345259&page=1#1
The alliances I create have nothing to do with me and are not under my control... if they were I would probably be the most powerful man in EVE... I assume you are referring to the Privateers alliance which has war decced you - well for your information they have all war decced the CVA - yes indeed - we are shooting them too...
The person you should send this smack to is the CEO of the executor corp...
Have a good day
And then this convo:
Hardin > Hail - you convoed me? Anonymous > Howdy Hardin Hardin > Hello - how can I help? Anonymous > Well you must get this PM alot but you war decked my alliance lol Anonymous > named - Anonymous Alliance Hardin > i didnt war dec you Anonymous > I'd like to end to conflict as soon as I can as our alliance is relitevely small Anonymous > i'll send you a copy Hardin > Look Hardin > I am just an alliance creator Hardin > I have nothing to do with the alliances I create Hardin > They pay me to be created - thats it Anonymous > ahhhhh Anonymous > btw Hardin > yep? Anonymous > you wouldnt happen to know how war decks end with the the privateers Anonymous > ? Hardin > it ends when they decide they want to end it Hardin > we have been at war with them for 3 weeks now Hardin > but we kill a lot of them so its all good :p
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R'adeh
Gallente Gekidoku
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Posted - 2007.01.19 13:12:00 -
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At least your war targets fly something else than Condors  _______________________________________________
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran Stupid amounts of alliance forum warriors in here stating that 'OH YEAH Privateers have bitten off more than they can chew now for sure, we r 1337, our e-peens are huge, prepare for deepthroat rapage!'
Which doesn't excactly convey a stellar understanding of what the OP wrote.
Rock on BYDI 
Well Ugluuk for one doesn't show an enormous amount of EVE understanding either. The ones smacking him in local or bothering to send him eve-mail would in almost every case be alliance members who don't venture on to these forums. Frustrated chumps with not a basic understanding of eve basically. Everyone else will realise what the situation is like. If he would be so kind as to do a name and shame we could ofcourse verify that :)
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Eskona Runningstar
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.01.19 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Eskona Runningstar on 19/01/2007 13:54:44 I would like to point out that BYDI is one of the few corps in Privateers who actually "bring it" and field gangs working as a team, trying to get kills on combat ships as long as they have a chance of winning. We have seen them engage 9 vs 22 (fair fight since our 22 had about 3m SP on average in mostly tech-1 frigates and cruisers against their tech-2 cruisers and BS). ---------- These are my views and mine alone. They do not represent the official stance of my corporation or alliance in any way.
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DeckardIRL
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:27:00 -
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Ugluuk seems Privateers are not fighting as an alliance but as individual corps having empire war fun.... no sympathy for you on that front as you will always be outnumbered then.
The smack and the mails are to be expected and you'll have to put up with that but what you don't have to put up with is some onionhead trying to bait you out by smacktalking your newborn.
You should name and shame that idiot.
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Watchin' the Game.... Havin' a Bud....
I shoot better on Bud.....
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:55:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: James Snowscoran Stupid amounts of alliance forum warriors in here stating that 'OH YEAH Privateers have bitten off more than they can chew now for sure, we r 1337, our e-peens are huge, prepare for deepthroat rapage!'
Which doesn't excactly convey a stellar understanding of what the OP wrote.
Rock on BYDI 
Well Ugluuk for one doesn't show an enormous amount of EVE understanding either. The ones smacking him in local or bothering to send him eve-mail would in almost every case be alliance members who don't venture on to these forums. Frustrated chumps with not a basic understanding of eve basically. Everyone else will realise what the situation is like. If he would be so kind as to do a name and shame we could ofcourse verify that :)
So people who
a) smacktalk
and
b) send eve-mails
don't use the forums?
Doesn't sound right to me, at least not the smacking part...
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire I read his post. I understand it all, and I feel the same anger he does that someone took it personal.
Its like going to McDonalds and ordering a Big Mac Combo meal. Then getting ****ed when it comes with Fries.
I'm just not fat enough to get this analogy I guess... 
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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ugluuk on 19/01/2007 14:59:09
Originally by: DeckardIRL Ugluuk seems Privateers are not fighting as an alliance but as individual corps having empire war fun.... no sympathy for you on that front as you will always be outnumbered then.
Read my post..Read it again..And then on more time..
Im not looking for sympathy or complaining about blobs..
Im informing the gangs that camp that they are not alone and im not coming out when 5-6 gangs sit outside waiting..
So smacking us aint worth it..And instead of smacking back i understand their frustration cause it sucks to think you can get a fight with 5 of you outside and 9 docked and see nothing flash red for 1 hour..
I have no interest in naming and shaming the smackers cause it only involves more people..They know who they are..
If i succeed this post can save some smack talk in the coming wars..
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Sun Ra
Godspeed You Black Emperor
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:17:00 -
[55]
Surprise, Ugluuk as emo as ever 
Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas' |

Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire Thats like declaring war on the USA and then only wanting to fight one state at a time.
You declared war on 60 alliances. Fight 60 alliances.
You activly instigated war against thousands of players, now your hiding since they dont have the decency to come at you a few at a time.
What a bizarre world.
WELL DONE, YOU COMPARED REAL LIFE TO AN MMO! I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes |

Razor Jaxx
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:33:00 -
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Ok, I'll bite.
I have read your initial post. I understand that you're annoyed at getting 'heaps' of spam / hate mail / local banter. Does this make it worth a forum post? No.
There are mechanics for avoiding local chat : block the annoying individuals, or entire corporations if need be. There are ways to combat mail spam : write to the spammer, or to CEO of the spammer explaining the situation ; if it's getting really out of hand, petition the spammer.
If the annoyance created by chat & mail spam becomes so intolerable that it offsets the pleasure you get from PvP, then quit Privateers and do something else. You should expect a little heat in an alliance like that one, it's the price to pay for the free empire shooty shooty.
But please, do us a favor and spare us forum readers. If everyone and their dog poured out their slight annoyances and mood swings on this forum, like you appear to be doing ("I want PvP", "Meh, I got blobbed", "I'm looking for PvP", "I have found PvP !", etc.), the amount of noise would simply become overwhelming. It's bad enough as it is, don't you think?
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Frygok
Minmatar Mean Anglo-Danes
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd Edited by: Smagd on 19/01/2007 09:54:12 This thread is a prime example of why CAOD is going to shambles:
Selective reading.
People skim over the OP and think they recognize the pattern: Privateer, docking from a blob - presto, let's smack them.
Well imagine that: That's is EXACTLY NOT what he Ugluuk was complaining about.
- Ugluuk is top #2 on the Privateers killboard, and this with 3 weeks membership against OLD privateers. And check his solo kill rate vs. ganks. His signature links to it. You see anyone contesting the truth of that?
- Reread the OP. He's complaining about his DAMN MAILBOX overfilling with SMACK.
- Even BoB admits they're smacking him because the Privateer alliance tag under his name, JUST for THAT. 50% chance it's valid. Good thing that was in jest, or was it?
Anyway, enough fanboyism. Ugluuk, keep rocking them and file the damn petition for real life threats.
Edit: Haha, just checked the killboard link myself: They did get Dark Shikaris Maelstrom, too, haha! AND the jamming Scorpion!
No offense, but when you are in an alliance with no rules, and people going gung ho on the forums proclaiming whatever BS they find funny/annoying/attention flashing, then this is the consequence. He is just going to have to deal with it, or starting changing the alliance from within, preventing their tards from posting utter crap, without realising they are representing their alliance, whether the alliance wants to or not. Such is the world we live in.
Whether the smacking is valid or not, it's happening. And it's happening partly due to the concept of the alliance, combined with the complete disregard of respect and maturity shown by people in his alliance. (personal note: I am not for smacking and wished it was gone completely, but it's a sad side effect of EVE)
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:37:00 -
[59]
Having 6 different gangs independently shooting up a Privateer can lead to some bizarre killmails, that's for sure.
We had one of our bosses griefing a pilot for ganging up with the enemy.
Needs a new warning, really: "You're about to shoot something already taking aggression from a war target. Doing this may lead to grief by your own diplomats. Are you sure you want to do that?"
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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Razor Jaxx I understand that you're annoyed at getting 'heaps' of spam / hate mail / local banter. Does this make it worth a forum post? No.
But please, do us a favor and spare us forum readers. If everyone and their dog poured out their slight annoyances and mood swings on this forum, like you appear to be doing ("I want PvP", "Meh, I got blobbed", "I'm looking for PvP", "I have found PvP !", etc.), the amount of noise would simply become overwhelming. It's bad enough as it is, don't you think?
Have you recently become a father?
Have you been getting mails like this:
Heard you became a father, hope she looks just as ugly as you ******..
Bet you have the ugliest baby in the world chiken****
So, you getting the new elephant kid wimp?
I bet you haven`t gotten it..That are taken out of 3 of the 4 mails i got about that..
Petition que is so long im not even gonna bother but imo this was worth the post cause 2 of 4 who was personal have apologized to me..
anyways..This topic can be closed now..if i reached out to 5% of the ones i fight it`s worth it.
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Raste
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:57:00 -
[61]
Ugluuk, Not sure if you are aware, but you can add entire alliances to your mail/block list? Has come in very handy for me. :)
Sorry if this was already mentioned, first page was making my brain hurt.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:58:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Ugluuk
Originally by: Razor Jaxx I understand that you're annoyed at getting 'heaps' of spam / hate mail / local banter. Does this make it worth a forum post? No.
But please, do us a favor and spare us forum readers. If everyone and their dog poured out their slight annoyances and mood swings on this forum, like you appear to be doing ("I want PvP", "Meh, I got blobbed", "I'm looking for PvP", "I have found PvP !", etc.), the amount of noise would simply become overwhelming. It's bad enough as it is, don't you think?
Have you recently become a father?
Have you been getting mails like this:
Heard you became a father, hope she looks just as ugly as you ******..
Bet you have the ugliest baby in the world chiken****
So, you getting the new elephant kid wimp?
I bet you haven`t gotten it..That are taken out of 3 of the 4 mails i got about that..
Petition que is so long im not even gonna bother but imo this was worth the post cause 2 of 4 who was personal have apologized to me..
anyways..This topic can be closed now..if i reached out to 5% of the ones i fight it`s worth it.
Without wanting to drag this on, you're right to bring this last post to Eve-O. Its beyond disgraceful.
But your first post was (at least in my comprehension) more a matter of: Stop smacking us, we don't come out against big odds, you might not realize how many people are shooting at Privateers atm. Which is something different from reallife smack that is directed at your family, which is truely pathetic. You really should petition it.
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Zippy McFlatulence
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:02:00 -
[63]
This is a good example of why you and your alliance are nothing but a bunch of crybaby losers.
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Lance Hawke
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:03:00 -
[64]
Wait, is this a game we're playing?
Sorry I must have forgotten like alot of the people we have wars against.
Hint.
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Zippy McFlatulence
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:09:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Lance Hawke Wait, is this a game we're playing?
Sorry I must have forgotten like alot of the people we have wars against.
Hint.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:09:00 -
[66]
IBTL!
I helped  DOWN WITH CTRL+Q!!! |

Lance Hawke
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:10:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Zippy McFlatulence
Originally by: Lance Hawke Wait, is this a game we're playing?
Sorry I must have forgotten like alot of the people we have wars against.
Hint.
haha loser
You're cool. Please teach me how to be like you.
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blkmajik
ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:11:00 -
[68]
Respect for being good PVPers and having some honorable standards, regardless of your current position. But you have to consider that people judge you by the company you keep. Your in an alliance that smacks, shows little honor, and is viewed as a nuisance, expect to be viewed that way yourself regardless of how awesome you might be. I'd bet 99% of the people who are flashing red to you don't know you or your corp. I don't smack, but it IS part of the game for those who chose to and we all have to live with it.
However, that doesn't justify smacking your new addition, but thats an issue between you, the offenders, and the GMs (which should not be made public, according to CCP policy). But, blaming that portion on the current Privateer situation doesn't seem accurate. Anyone who smacks you on a personal level must know you in some way and have a history with you and a reason to do so... unless they are just <insert bad words here>.
and one last thing: you claim your not whining about not being able to fight... but you are.
"YES we do want to fight you.. We will do it once we get the chance..I know you only have 5 in your gang and we are 7..But the other 6 gangs with 5 pilots in them waiting for us too undock dont feel like giving us 1vs1..".
I cant say i blame you, but it looks like whining to me. What goes around, comes around. If you want to pick your battles, leave Privateers and wardec those who you PICK you want to fight against. Else you CANT pick your battles! It looks like these problems are products of your own decisions and your corp is in a position to solve them or just live through it.
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Zippy McFlatulence
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:14:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Lance Hawke
Originally by: Zippy McFlatulence
Originally by: Lance Hawke Wait, is this a game we're playing?
Sorry I must have forgotten like alot of the people we have wars against.
Hint.
haha loser
You're cool. Please teach me how to be like you.
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Tarri
FACTA NON VERBA Kurai Komichi
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:15:00 -
[70]
Why the smack against privateers? An empire war is fun for everyone 
And that people wonŠt fight against overwhelming odds is more then understandable....
Last but not least, if you have to result to personal attacks it is perhaps time to stop playing and get out a bit. ----
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David Ryan
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.19 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd
Edit: Haha, just checked the killboard link myself: They did get Dark Shikaris Maelstrom, too, haha! AND the jamming Scorpion!
:P
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