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Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:53:00 -
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I am fairly new to the mining thing in a mining vessel ( 2nd day). I have a Retreive and I put T2 Cargo Expanders in it but the size of the cargo hold is the same.
Did I miss a step somewhere?
I have looked around and my only guess is that I have to put the rigs in to make this work?
Is that correct? If not what is the secret? Thanks in advance for your responses |
Kial Riece
Wings of Evil
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:04:00 -
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Did you fit the expanders on your ship or just put them in your cargohold?  |
Citizen Smif
Traumark Shadow Elite
H Y E N A
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:10:00 -
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Kial Riece wrote:Did you fit the expanders on your ship or just put them in your cargohold?
:facepalms: |
Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:25:00 -
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Kial Riece wrote:Did you fit the expanders on your ship or just put them in your cargohold?
Well first I put them in the cargo hold... that did not work.... 
So I fit them and I still got the same results....
maybe I should just put them back in the cargo hold....  |
Kial Riece
Wings of Evil
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:30:00 -
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Indeed! Op did say he was new..... |
Kial Riece
Wings of Evil
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:36:00 -
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At the risk of making another assumption, you have the skills for the T2 expanders? |
Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:44:00 -
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Kial Riece wrote:At the risk of making another assumption, you have the skills for the T2 expanders?
Indeed I do...and they work fine on my Iteron IV
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Glarrion
Enterprise Industries Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.14 14:21:00 -
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sometimes relog hels - mine ret and hulk work sfine |
Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.15 10:53:00 -
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After the patch and a reboot... it works
must have been something local.....  |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:27:00 -
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Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... |
Skorpynekomimi
E.A.D Alliance
Omega Vector
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:55:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul...
Solo mining when you don't know anyone yet and don't want to jetcan because of people like you who come along and flip the cans. |
Intar Medris
REDBIRD Industrial Crew
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Posted - 2011.12.16 01:16:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul...
That what I do. Stay in the belt for hours making 2 mil every 21 minutes when my alt(personal slave) hauls it to the station. I even get a yield boost from him since I am training him to fly an Orca. Yielding 1830m3 every cycle. Ultimate pun... he is Mimantar.
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Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.16 11:21:00 -
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Skorpynekomimi wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... Solo mining when you don't know anyone yet and don't want to jetcan because of people like you who come along and flip the cans.
I am training to fly bigger mining vessels and I just got a second account... at some point I will be able to mine and haul...but it takes time to get there so I have to go it alone as I train...
I like the retreiver because I can mine and have a few drones for the .8 rats that pop out from time to time... it is like free money when they show up... |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
63
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Posted - 2011.12.16 11:27:00 -
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Skorpynekomimi wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... Solo mining when you don't know anyone yet and don't want to jetcan because of people like you who come along and flip the cans.
lol Goons aren't even that civilized....they just gank you without any preamble with canflipping. |
Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.16 11:43:00 -
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Smiling Menace wrote:Skorpynekomimi wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... Solo mining when you don't know anyone yet and don't want to jetcan because of people like you who come along and flip the cans. lol Goons aren't even that civilized....they just gank you without any preamble with canflipping.
Everybody has something in eve that they enjoy doing.....  |
Intar Medris
REDBIRD Industrial Crew
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2011.12.16 17:54:00 -
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Gumby Ambraelle wrote:Skorpynekomimi wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... Solo mining when you don't know anyone yet and don't want to jetcan because of people like you who come along and flip the cans. I am training to fly bigger mining vessels and I just got a second account... at some point I will be able to mine and haul...but it takes time to get there so I have to go it alone as I train... I like the retreiver because I can mine and have a few drones for the .8 rats that pop out from time to time... it is like free money when they show up...
Be sure to train him to Mining Foreman 5 and make him the Fleet Booster. Other wise your just wasting time and money.
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:00:00 -
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Mimantar.
New race?
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Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.16 18:20:00 -
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Intar Medris wrote:Gumby Ambraelle wrote:Skorpynekomimi wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... Solo mining when you don't know anyone yet and don't want to jetcan because of people like you who come along and flip the cans. I am training to fly bigger mining vessels and I just got a second account... at some point I will be able to mine and haul...but it takes time to get there so I have to go it alone as I train... I like the retreiver because I can mine and have a few drones for the .8 rats that pop out from time to time... it is like free money when they show up... Be sure to train him to Mining Foreman 5 and make him the Fleet Booster. Other wise your just wasting time and money.
It is on the list of skills to train.... there are so many.... |
Percival Gates
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.16 19:19:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul...
The real question here is why would you mine? Even further, why would you mine in a retriever? If you really must try it out just for fun, get it over with quickly. Then go run missions and find that you have come out way ahead in a fraction of the time. |
Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.16 19:26:00 -
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Percival Gates wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... The real question here is why would you mine? Even further, why would you mine in a retriever? If you really must try it out just for fun, get it over with quickly. Then go run missions and find that you have come out way ahead in a fraction of the time.
There are many ways to have fun in eve.... and lets not forget it is a game....
I enjoy the mining and industry aspects of the game more than the mission running parts. I still run missions as well as having 4 R&D agents that I am slowly leveling up to get to level 4 agents... As I said elsewhere in the forums, I mine to have fun, to make some isk to pay for the toys I run missions with and to make money for my research and invention stuff that i do. That is the great thing about eve, we can all find a niche for ourselves. Who knows maybe one day you will be PVPing / Mission running in a ship I built... |
Intar Medris
Globaltech Industries
Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.12.19 10:14:00 -
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Percival Gates wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... The real question here is why would you mine? Even further, why would you mine in a retriever? If you really must try it out just for fun, get it over with quickly. Then go run missions and find that you have come out way ahead in a fraction of the time.
Well what I mine, Pyroxeres, contains everything you need to make missiles. So taking the butterfly effect into account at some point in time my mining makes someones ship go pop, and all I did was mine. Also in Hulk mining that stuff will make you as much as a Lvl 4 mission runner. I like running missions too, but I mine most of the time. This week alone I have mined 60 mil worth of it... in a Retriever. Mining can and is very lucritive if your willing too step out of your comfort zone. My Retriever literally pays for it self every 25-30 minutes. With the way I mine my Hulk when I can fly it will pay for its self in a week, after that it's pure profit. |
Darcel Black
Alzhara Industries
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Posted - 2011.12.19 12:15:00 -
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60 mil a week is not 'very lucrative'. I occasionally mine too, when I am bored or just want to watch a movie or youtube without paying much attention to the game, but it certainly doesn't bring in much money. |
Phugoid
Star Dust Idustries
DEUS Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.19 20:13:00 -
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Hi Gumby.......
dont let those "why do mine" knuckleheads get u down, they are just jealous!
anywayz, that's a whole diff subject..............
Here's a tip, and take it or leave it.
I mine with GSC's (Giant Secure Containers) set up on a belt. I put 10 on each belt I mine. Tho a GSC can only hold 3900k, it makes it much more efficient, for me at least, to fill up each GSC as I move up the belt. That way I can mine the belt for the longest time possible w/out having to go back to the base each time my hold in my Hulk fills up. I then get my Itty V and pick up all the ore in the 10 GSCs and bring back, refine/sell.
Not every one likes that way, but I find it works great for me :) I easily make over 15 mil on 3 belts with each session.
Get a Covetor asap if u can, then a Hulk....they are so much more efficient mining wise.
NOTE: GSCs can only be set up in .7 or lower space. Once anchored they cant be flipped.....
Hope that helps....and MINING RULES! |
Gumby Ambraelle
SON OF HEAVEN
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:19:00 -
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Phugoid wrote:Hi Gumby.......
dont let those "why do mine" knuckleheads get u down, they are just jealous!
anywayz, that's a whole diff subject..............
Here's a tip, and take it or leave it.
I mine with GSC's (Giant Secure Containers) set up on a belt. I put 10 on each belt I mine. Tho a GSC can only hold 3900k, it makes it much more efficient, for me at least, to fill up each GSC as I move up the belt. That way I can mine the belt for the longest time possible w/out having to go back to the base each time my hold in my Hulk fills up. I then get my Itty V and pick up all the ore in the 10 GSCs and bring back, refine/sell.
Not every one likes that way, but I find it works great for me :) I easily make over 15 mil on 3 belts with each session.
Get a Covetor asap if u can, then a Hulk....they are so much more efficient mining wise.
NOTE: GSCs can only be set up in .7 or lower space. Once anchored they cant be flipped.....
Hope that helps....and MINING RULES!
Thanks
I am going to try that... I have been mining in .9 because there were fewer can flippers out there, but the better minerals are in the lower space. Thanks for the suggestion. I have an Iteron IV with 2 extenders and a couple of rigs... with my retreiver it allows me to leave the retreiver on site and run the ore with the Iteron, but it is not super efficient. I will be in a Hulk next week.
Here is another question... if I use secure containers and a hulk to mine, should I have my other account in a ship with a couple of mining lasers on top to help mine out a field faster. I am Gallente and have good drone skills, and T2 drones to help protect my ships from rats. It would be BC/BS class with 5 drones available for protection. I could then use the Iteron to empy containers when I am finished. Just wondering if this would be a good way to mine?
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Phugoid
Black Horse Enterprises-International
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:27:00 -
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Hey Gumby....
Sure, if u have an alt use him.. :)
But, I still do all my stuff myself with one character. If you can manage it, go for it.
From what I gather, you mine an entire belt? I pretty much stick to rich plagioclase and mine 40+ GSC's worth on 4 belts.
Then with the Itty V, grab the ore from 10 GSCs 4 times, then fill up the Orca and sell the ore for a very nice profit. Usually make about 24 mil per Orca load.....
:) |
Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.26 21:30:00 -
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Once you get the hulk you can also just run L4 mining missions. about (2.5m ISK and 6k LP) x2 every hour. I guess whether or not that's worthwhile depends on your LP conversion rate, but every 8 hours or so you get a L4 storyline mission for a chance at a decent implant. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
99
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Posted - 2012.01.27 02:52:00 -
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Just a side note, if you feel the need to jetcan (especially when the belts are far from the station or there are no stations in the system) get a safe spot near the belt and dump your cans there. Short jumps are better (now that we can align to bookmarks) than time wasting long jumps and it pisses off all but the dedicated can flippers.
I know I left a battleship in this station. Wait, you can put ships in Station Containers? ****! I just trashed them. |
Ireland VonVicious
Gurista Saints
Assassin Confederacy
16
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Posted - 2012.01.27 03:31:00 -
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Short jet can is optimal for this.
I suggest you either move to 0.5 or 0.9.
0.5 if you want to keep combat drones and mine better ore.
0.9 if you want to use mining drones and increase your yield while avoiding rats.
If you do want to use the GSC method aim for a 0.7.
Good luck. |
Asudem
Asen of Asgard
5
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:09:00 -
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@ Gumbly
Train your Alt to Orca asap. With it, you can buff you mining vessel alot and you have so much cargo.
If I go mining, Im sitting in a Rokh. That ship it the best "mining vessel" after the Hulk, I guess. 1 of my alts is sitting in the Orca with mining links. 3 other alts are also sitting in a Rokh and filling the Orca in a couple of minutes. Also a well fitted Orca can align into warp really fast, almost like a BS.
I also have a small question: If you aggress in a frig and CONCORD respond, how long do their ships stay there? I never tried it out yet, but it might hold back at least some gankers since CONCORD would be able to respond immediately if their ships stay in the belt until DT and it is impossible to kill a Rokh/Hulk with one volley and 1 ship(s) since CONCORD even rapes a triage carrier in a few seconds (at least on Sisi). |
Frank Pannon
Fearless Bandits
Sk33t Fl33t
5
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Posted - 2012.01.27 07:59:00 -
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Gumby Ambraelle wrote:Percival Gates wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote:Why would you cargo expand a ret? Use a second ship/character to haul... The real question here is why would you mine? Even further, why would you mine in a retriever? If you really must try it out just for fun, get it over with quickly. Then go run missions and find that you have come out way ahead in a fraction of the time. There are many ways to have fun in eve.... and lets not forget it is a game.... I enjoy the mining and industry aspects of the game more than the mission running parts. I still run missions as well as having 4 R&D agents that I am slowly leveling up to get to level 4 agents... As I said elsewhere in the forums, I mine to have fun, to make some isk to pay for the toys I run missions with and to make money for my research and invention stuff that i do. That is the great thing about eve, we can all find a niche for ourselves. Who knows maybe one day you will be PVPing / Mission running in a ship I built...
Keep up doing what you like doing, do not listen to people who always know better. It is your choices, and your gaming experience. |
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