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        |  CCP Phantom
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
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       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:28:00 -
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 EVE Online: Crucible 1.0.2 has been deployed. This update fixes various issues stemming from the Crucible release. Full patch notes are available here.
 
 This thread is for general feedback.
 
 If you encounter any issues please use the Crucible 1.0.2 issues thread here.
 CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator
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        |  cBOLTSON
 Star Frontiers
 BricK sQuAD.
 
 20
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:31:00 -
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 First? Whoo! I shall go install the patch.
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        |  McFly
 Peanut Factory
 Good Sax
 
 21
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:32:00 -
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 Please stop nuking window positions, i just got everything organized again.
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        |  Blackcamper
 The Condemned and Convicted
 
 7
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:36:00 -
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 McFly wrote:Please stop nuking window positions, i just got everything organized again. 
 yes plz. get the finger out of you ass and start programing, this now the 3 time in 3 weeks.
 
 
 
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        |  Robert Caldera
 Caldera Trading and Investment
 
 72
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:37:00 -
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 in the patchnotes there is no word about the disappearing station menu for some characters.
 For one of my characters there is never a station menu after login, it only appears after undock-cancel.
 
 Do I maybe miss the patch note or is it simply not being fixed with 1.0.2??
 
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        |  Yophant
 Shadow of xXDEATHXx
 
 7
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:37:00 -
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 well, all my windows are reset again to their defaults. Thanks for that :)
 
 Gonna fix them again...
 
 *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click*...
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        |  Hamster Too
 No Name Corporation
 
 16
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:41:00 -
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 WTF? My windows settings were reset AGAIN???
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        |  Frakir Shedimuthgur
 Vacation Spot
 
 7
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:45:00 -
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 'Great' job guys!!!
 HOW BLOODY HARD IS IT TO KEEP THE BLOODY WINDOWS WHERE I LEFT THEM????
 
 How about a nice goal for the next expansion: FIX the ****** UI code so it stops getting borked every friggin patch? How about that?
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        |  Jack Dant
 The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
 
 248
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:46:00 -
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 Robert Caldera wrote:in the patchnotes there is no word about the disappearing station menu for some characters.For one of my characters there is never a station menu after login, it only appears after undock-cancel.
 
 Do I maybe miss the patch note or is it simply not being fixed with 1.0.2??
 
 Do you also get an error about roles as you log-in? If so, it's because you left the market deliveries hangar in another character in the same account. My bug report about it has been unfiltered for two weeks, so I assume it's not fixed yet.
 What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP:
 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644
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        |  Bendy Profane
 The Tuskers
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:48:00 -
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 Windows XP users should now be able to ALT-TAB out of the client without causing severe UI issues.
 Thanks, that's what I was waiting for.
 
 Also, chat windows...
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        |  Baki Yuku
 Nordgoetter
 Viking Empire
 
 6
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:51:00 -
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 CCP YOU !"-º!/ A!SS.HOLES LEARN HOW TO F!UC!KING CODE OKAY? YOU CANT BE THIS F!U!CKING ST!U!PID TO FU!CK UP ALL CLIENT WINDOWS SETTING EVERY TIME YOU DO A !=)!/"-º PATCH. HELL YEAH THATS THE WAY CCP 2.0 SERIOUSLY?
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        |  Salpun
 Paramount Commerce
 
 105
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:53:00 -
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 Window pinning works now. Its a option in the esc menu. With this back in Windows should not be reset for a while
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        |  Jimmy Causey
 Legion of Darkwind
 Order of the Void
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:58:00 -
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 not sure what the hell changed but prior to the patch my graphics card would die every time i undock/warp threw a gate but like incarna its doing it again...................freaking annoying
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        |  I Love Boobies
 All Hail Boobies
 
 36
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:59:00 -
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 Baki must be out of meds... it's annoying sure, but not that annoying where you develop an aneurysm over it.
 ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
 
 The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs.
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        |  Bienator II
 madmen of the skies
 
 357
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 12:59:00 -
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 Baki Yuku wrote:CCP YOU !"-º!/ A!SS.HOLES LEARN HOW TO F!UC!KING CODE OKAY? YOU CANT BE THIS F!U!CKING ST!U!PID TO FU!CK UP ALL CLIENT WINDOWS SETTING EVERY TIME YOU DO A !=)!/"-º PATCH. HELL YEAH THATS THE WAY CCP 2.0 SERIOUSLY? something is wrong with you or your keyboard.
 a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked
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        |  Chribba
 Otherworld Enterprises
 Otherworld Empire
 
 1205
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:01:00 -
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 Did they fix window positions yet?
  
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        |  Witchking Angmar
 Perkele.
 
 11
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:03:00 -
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 Wow.. Just wow.. Are you people mentally disabled? Why were my settings reseted?
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        |  SillyWaif
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:06:00 -
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 Thanks for the following two items:
 *) Pinning windows option is back! The reset of windows was probably needed for it so i don't care about that (for once) :)
 *) Bookmarks back in the 'main' menu!
 
 Now revert the 'automatic approach' code on containers/wrecks in the next update please!
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        |  Derkata
 
 3
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:08:00 -
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 You know your patches are doing well when the only complaint is 2 minutes to readjust window positions.
 
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        |  Ingvar Angst
 Nasty Pope Holding Corp
 Talocan United
 
 732
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:18:00 -
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 Did they fix bookmarks such that they're not forced into subfolders? I don't see that in the patch notes.
  
 That REALLY needs to be fixed before you get someone killed.
 Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
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        |  Frakir Shedimuthgur
 Vacation Spot
 
 7
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:18:00 -
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 SillyWaif wrote:*) Pinning windows option is back! The reset of windows was probably needed for it so i don't care about that (for once) :)
 
 
 Shouldn't be needed in any sane interface system... then again... this is EVE - sanity has nothing to do with it.
 
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        |  Tek Handle
 Biotronics Inc.
 The Initiative.
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:21:00 -
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 I appreciate the come back of locked windows when pinned.
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        |  Salpun
 Paramount Commerce
 
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       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:23:00 -
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 Ingvar Angst wrote:Did they fix bookmarks such that they're not forced into subfolders? I don't see that in the patch notes.   That REALLY needs to be fixed before you get someone killed. Yes its fixed log in and see the goodness
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        |  Robert Caldera
 Caldera Trading and Investment
 
 73
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:29:00 -
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 Jack Dant wrote:Do you also get an error about roles as you log-in? If so, it's because you left the market deliveries hangar in another character in the same account.
 My bug report about it has been unfiltered for two weeks, so I assume it's not fixed yet.
 EDIT: Actually, it's fixed. Also seems window settings are now per-char not per-account. That was a big change!
 
 
 wow, you're right, I had said error messages on log in before, created 2 petitions and filed 1 bug report for that ages ago.
 But now it seens fixed finally!
 
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        |  Levo Harkonnen
 Salty Nut Attack Squirrels
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:36:00 -
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 There's a serious lack of dinosaurs in this game.
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        |  Frakir Shedimuthgur
 Vacation Spot
 
 7
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:37:00 -
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 So, how about mentioning in the patch notes that interface settings are now stored separately per char not per account like before the patch? That would be a useful information.
 Also, since you did it, how about an option to import automatically from one char to the others so we don't have to:
 a) Redo everything by hand
 b) Mess with the settings files by hand.
 
 On a plus note: Nice to see the windows have once again the pin option. May I suggest however to have 2 options: 'pin' and 'make transparent' that work independently?
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        |  Jade Nexia
 CHON
 THE R0NIN
 
 8
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:39:00 -
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 Jack Dant wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:in the patchnotes there is no word about the disappearing station menu for some characters.For one of my characters there is never a station menu after login, it only appears after undock-cancel.
 
 Do I maybe miss the patch note or is it simply not being fixed with 1.0.2??
 
 Do you also get an error about roles as you log-in? If so, it's because you left the market deliveries hangar in another character in the same account.  My bug report about it has been unfiltered for two weeks, so I assume it's not fixed yet.EDIT: Actually, it's fixed. Also seems window settings are now per-char not per-account. That was a big change! 
 Yes this is why all windows got reset, because windows pos was stored in core_user_(account-id).dat and now are stored in core_char_(char-id).dat . Really lame. I have 6 accounts it was hard to keep it same on all clients before, but now nearly impossible because I must maintain windows on 18 characters.
 
 Who does think that I want windows arranged diferently for each character on account?
 
 CCP wants new EVE minigame, "arrange windows setting up".
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        |  Wyte Ragnarok
 School of Applied Knowledge
 Caldari State
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:41:00 -
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 It's times like this I'm glad I only play one character, I'd hate to have to reset the windows on all 9 of my CEO's alts. Window reset is a pain CCP, come one :(
 Regardless, very thankful that locked pinning windows is back! Woo! Cheers for that :D
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        |  Daedalus II
 The Older Gamers
 
 75
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:44:00 -
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 Jade Nexia wrote:Jack Dant wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:in the patchnotes there is no word about the disappearing station menu for some characters.For one of my characters there is never a station menu after login, it only appears after undock-cancel.
 
 Do I maybe miss the patch note or is it simply not being fixed with 1.0.2??
 
 Do you also get an error about roles as you log-in? If so, it's because you left the market deliveries hangar in another character in the same account.  My bug report about it has been unfiltered for two weeks, so I assume it's not fixed yet.EDIT: Actually, it's fixed. Also seems window settings are now per-char not per-account. That was a big change! Yes this is why all windows got reset, because windows pos was stored in core_user_(account-id).dat and now are stored in core_char_(char-id).dat . Really lame. I have 6 accounts it was hard to keep it same on all clients before, but now nearly impossible because I must maintain windows on 18 characters. Who does think that I want windows arranged diferently for each character on account? CCP wants new EVE minigame, "arrange windows setting up". Maybe you can create one of those virtual file links (forgot what they are called) so all your setting files point towards the same file?
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        |  Usagi Tsukino
 Stimulus
 Rote Kapelle
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:51:00 -
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 Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:May I suggest however to have 2 options: 'pin' and 'make transparent' that work independently?  How about you DIAF. They better not EVER touch the windows again. EVER. This has seriously been the most annoying two weeks since I started playing this game.
 
 Usagi Hiretsukann (Tsukino)
 Seldom Updated IC Blog; But When I Do...-áhttp://bit.ly/UsAgIcHa0s
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        |  darmwand
 Repo.
 
 6
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:53:00 -
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 Quote:Drones no longer appear in distant space when warping away from recalled drones. They also no longer return to being in local space if this occurs. 
 Hmm, so they just disappear? Mind if I ask why? In PvP situations, when I have to run away, I tend to recall my drones while aligning. Sometimes they make it back, sometimes they don't. Does this mean that, from now on, if they don't make it back, my enemy won't even get my drones?
 
 Looks like a nice "little" patch though. Now if only we could get the proper paint job for the Navy Comet back...
 darmwand
 Repossession Agent
 http://www.repo-corp.net/
 Recruitment is OPEN
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        |  GRIEV3R
 Clan Shadow Wolf
 Fatal Ascension
 
 15
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:55:00 -
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 "The Sensor Booster effect has been reduced in size and its opacity decreased."
 
 WOO HOO! The villagers are rejoicing!
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        |  Gena D
 Gena Drena Corpena
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 13:56:00 -
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 Dear CCP!
 
 For the love of heaven and after 8 years of game developing could you please hire a programmer WHO CAN CODE WITHOUT MAKING PLAYERS REORGANIZE THOSE F*****G WINDOWS EVERY F*****G TIME YOU MAKE ANY F*****G PATCH!!!
      
 Thank you.
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        |  Danny Husk
 EVE University
 Ivy League
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:14:00 -
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 Still no return of "Lock Windows When Pinned?" This is especially annoying given the amount of random jinking around, self-resizing, and spontaneous closing that windows do since Crucible 1.0.
 
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        |  Yakumo Smith
 The Forsakened Companions
 
 7
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:20:00 -
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 Not impressed by the window reset yet again.
 
 While not a game breaking problem this is a "frustration builder" that will gradually erode all the good work that has been done in the last few months by CCP.
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        |  Robert Caldera
 Caldera Trading and Investment
 
 73
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:23:00 -
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 yeah finally windows settings are related to the char not account.
 It was kinda annoying in the past to re-arrange windows correctly after switching from a trader/producer to pvp toon and vice versa, so thanks CCP for this change!!
 Now we have to arrange them ONCE for each char we play.
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        |  Robert Caldera
 Caldera Trading and Investment
 
 73
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:24:00 -
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 delete this post
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        |  Xenial Jesse Taalo
 Tactical Nyan Cat Attack Force
 OMNIMODUS ALLIANCE
 
 47
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:26:00 -
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 Really good work with the engine trails tweak. Happy to see that.
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        |  Dok Klick
 Dok Klick Corporation
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:34:00 -
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 I can't update the client. after initializing download I see a chinese? sign and d, and download of path is not possible. Thats not a problem on 1 computer.
 
 Both Win 7 x64
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        |  Panhead4411
 Adventures with Bill
 
 9
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:37:00 -
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 Vitamin D enhanced Items? Still?
 
 As much as i want all these items that are seemingly enhanced w/ vitamin D
 
 Hammerhead's
 
 http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/panhead4411/NameIssue5.jpg
 
 Concentrated Veldspar
 
 http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc181/panhead4411/NameIssue2.jpg
 
 Among many other items whose text wrapping is still broken.
 
 It is apparent that CCP wanted the text to appear this way (this they have not addressed any questions relating to it, nor have mentioned it at all), but for what reason?
 
 Scaling the UI down only makes this worse.
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        |  Rouge Agius
 ANZAC ALLIANCE
 Executive Outcomes
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:44:00 -
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 You seem to have royally bloody well routed the install for me.
 
 Again.
 
 This is the third time this has happened since crucibles release including crucible itself and the two patches since, every time I have wasted time and valuable bandwidth first attempting to repair which fails so consistently it would make the rising sun blush before finally resorting to downloading and installing the whole bloody thing again through the two bits of copper wire that connect me to the world. I've already had to pull an all-nighter to re-install the bloody game as to not miss skill training swapping and to be quite frank it is killing Eve for me. Bandwidth is not unlimited here, not with my ISP and I am certainly not willing to switch providers to pay more money than I am willing to fork out.
 
 My question is who can I talk to to ensure that this stops happening, or better yet find out why it happens so it can be prevented for myself and others in the future so I won't have to unsubscribe and find something else that doesn't make my house-mates want to murder me for "whoring all the internet."
 
 I want this issue resolved, done with, finis or I am.
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        |  Albert Roidesbelges
 Atlantide corp
 Ares Protectiva
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 14:52:00 -
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 Dok Klick wrote:I can't update the client. after initializing download I see a chinese? sign and d, and download of path is not possible. Thats not a problem on 1 computer.
 Both Win 7 x64
 
 i have exactly the same problem and this since crucible 1.0.1
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        |  Dasola
 Rookies Empire
 Rookie Empire
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 15:02:00 -
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 i knew pos code is mess byt 68 MB patch just to enlarge fuel bay temporary? LOL
  
 Anyways i do hope performance actually improves. And you dont manage to brake all poses in this patch
  [Insert something funny or smart here]
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        |  Ekrund
 Serenity Prime
 Cascade Imminent
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 15:40:00 -
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 Yophant wrote:well, all my windows are reset again to their defaults. +1 Windows on all accounts reset :( Took me ages to get it back the way I liked it now it's gone again!
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        |  Kraig2
 T.O.R.
 Absolute Damage Inc.
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 15:43:00 -
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 I don't know if it's old or anything, sorry if it is, but I just realized that Instrumental Core Reservoir now spawn 4 Battleships instead of 2. I never heard of that change (was it documented? I thought WH space was left alone in Crucible?) and it was quite an unpleasant surprise on first encounter.
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        |  Shane Mackey
 Caldari Provisions
 Caldari State
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 15:50:00 -
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 Different Giant Secure Container windows still open on top of each other on the spot where the last one was, instead of where I left them. No change if they're pinned or not or if the option to lock windows is on or not. Makes doing PI a more pita than it ever was before Crucible.
 
 I'm willing to believe this will be fixed eventually and I'm anxiously waiting to have to arrange all of my other windows when that happens.
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        |  Pinaculus
 The High and Mighty
 
 74
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 16:11:00 -
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 CCP wrote:The jamming progress bar disappears correctly after jamming NPCs were killed. 
 THANK YOU! Keep up the good work.
 
 I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
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        |  Elvin Gizza
 Gerek Ore And Moon Surveying
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 16:16:00 -
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 The resetting of windows is a *****, but ill get over that.
 
 I am however still wondering when i can have an open corp hangar and cargohold window on login?
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        |  Major Kim
 The Night Wardens
 Viro Mors Non Est
 
 4
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 16:26:00 -
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 I will admit that i was a little annoyed when i discovered everything the way it comes out of the box, but then i discovered something.
 I DON'T CARE
 The pin window function now works as intended, gone are the days of windows deciding that the're going to randomly move on you.
 The personal locations no longer automaticly folder themselves when you have 5+BM's. I Love you again CCP.
 The pos's fitting service is now functioning better than it has been.
 
 My personal recomendation is you delete everyone who is only concerned with window positions, i know it's inconvienent, but it doesn't appear that they're looking at the bigger issue. YOU FIXED THE PROBLEMS!!
 
 These changes...fixes, reversions to previous ways, whatever you want to call them are amazing, and the rest of the patch looks good too, although not many of those issues i had been experiencing.
 
 
 
 THANK YOU,
 Developers, GM's and everyone involved in the design process.
 You're doing a fantastic job, I for one greatly appriciate it.
 
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        |  Palovana
 Inner Fire Inc.
 
 37
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 16:36:00 -
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 CCP Developers: READ MY SIGNATURE then IMPLEMENT THE FEATURE.
 Please support: export of settings in editable format
 
 Your stuff goes here.
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        |  zariae
 Republic Military School
 Minmatar Republic
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 16:37:00 -
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 Thanks CCP.
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        |  Scrapyard Bob
 EVE University
 Ivy League
 
 455
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 16:38:00 -
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 We still need those 2 options split out. There are times when I want a window to be locked in position, but not transparent, and vice-versa.
 
 We need a "make transparent" button and a "lock in place" button for our windows, not a single button that attempts to do both.
 
 Also - if I shift-move a window, it should *not* move locked windows that it happens to be adjacent to. The whole point of "lock" is that those windows stay locked to their current relationship with the closest two screen edges (or the closest screen corner to any of the four window corners).
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        |  Zaphiem
 The Mad Capsuleer Scientists
 D-Collective
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 16:39:00 -
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 Thanks AGAIN for killing all my window sizes and positions.... -.- ffs
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        |  Myz Toyou
 Bite me inc.
 Narwhals Ate My Duck
 
 14
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 17:10:00 -
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 Yeah, those 30sec you need to reorganize them should be reimbursed to you as you could have mined 30 units of Veld in that time
  
 Good job CCP, special thanks for fixing the major lag when refitted in space.
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        |  Di Mulle
 
 26
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 17:17:00 -
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 Robert Caldera wrote:Now we have to arrange them ONCE for each char we play.
 
 Given CCP's past history, you certainly are extremely optimistic here.
 
 CCP is unable to implement simpliest things. Like settting to hide signatures. So they sweep it under a rug . Children do that in their pre-shool years, CCP does it being adults. Probably because it is fearless enough.
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        |  Tactalan
 Barr Heavy Industries
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 17:21:00 -
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 Patch corrupted install, so had to run repair. Then...
 
 YOU RESET ALL MY WINDOWS AGAIN!
 
 I mean for gods sake, is it really all that difficult to work out how to save them?
 
 Every single bit of good will you've got from fixing all the bugs has just been undone in an instant. I work in IT and I know full well that user perception is everything. It's time you learnt that lesson to.
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        |  Shane Mackey
 Caldari Provisions
 Caldari State
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 17:39:00 -
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 Major Kim wrote:I will admit that i was a little annoyed when i discovered everything the way it comes out of the box, but then i discovered something.I DON'T CARE
 The pin window function now works as intended, gone are the days of windows deciding that the're going to randomly move on you.
 The personal locations no longer automaticly folder themselves when you have 5+BM's. I Love you again CCP.
 The pos's fitting service is now functioning better than it has been.
 
 My personal recomendation is you delete everyone who is only concerned with window positions, i know it's inconvienent, but it doesn't appear that they're looking at the bigger issue. YOU FIXED THE PROBLEMS!!
 
 These changes...fixes, reversions to previous ways, whatever you want to call them are amazing, and the rest of the patch looks good too, although not many of those issues i had been experiencing.
 
 
 
 THANK YOU,
 Developers, GM's and everyone involved in the design process.
 You're doing a fantastic job, I for one greatly appriciate it.
 
 
 I'm grateful that some of the worst bugs introduced in crucible got fixed.
 
 I don't care about repositioning the windows after a patch. That's minor annoyance. I love that the windows are character specific though I understand why some people would disagree (this should be option or at least easily transferrable from char-to-char).
 
 What I do care about is that when doing pi I have to open and reposition all 9 of my cargo containers (they used to open nicely next to each other just the way they were when they closed, now they open on top of each other so that only the top one can be accessed) 5 times (since they still close after jumping, undocking, docking etc.). Thats 45 open-repositions per day (actually 90 since I do it on two accounts). This I didn't have to do before the crucible (just had to open them). If this is how the pin window is intended to work (pin-locking them just means they open like this and I can't move them) I have to agree that CCP should really hire some usability experts to take their ui programmers' heads out of their dark holes.
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        |  Boadicea Wales
 Cynru CoIlective Power
 
 6
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 17:39:00 -
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 I am getting eye strain from the over view with a green nebula under it. Very hard to see small white lettering on top of this greenish/white nebula
 
 
     EYE STRAIN     
 I find that i am having to scroll right out untill every thing is a dot in the distance before I can find black space so I can see whats on the OV. It like playing Pong
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        |  Leecher Paradice
 N0 APOLOGY
 Controlled Chaos
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 18:04:00 -
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 Mahhhh! This is patchy again! I think they should sell custom patches to the crowed instand of Plex...would be more profit to CCP..... If your ship flyes backwards again , dont be sad, just clear cache. Why is the sun flashing and blinking as hell if you got a view to it by some angle?
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        |  Reno684
 FLA5HY RED
 The Defenders of Pen Island
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 18:29:00 -
          [60] - Quote 
 Eve has problems installing patch on my IMac. Every time I try to install it i get this
 
 Examining File : /Contents/Resources/transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/CCP/EVE/resShaders.stuff -> SHA1 Error
 
 I've tried downloading the patch through the game browser and also from the website.
 
 I don't want to reinstall the entire client again.
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        |  Sikrala
 Hardcore-Gilde
 Unknown Reality
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 18:36:00 -
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 thanks a lot ccp for repairing the pin/unpin windows function! finally!!
 
 removing this with crucithingi was the biggest mistake in my opinion....
 beside the new ugly font, beside the new planet taxes, beside the new useless ships, beside...
 
 and thanks for fixing this bug!
 "Windows XP users should now be able to ALT-TAB out of the client without causing severe UI issues"
 
 but thx.
 
 
 "never change a running system!"
 never change a running system!
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        |  Knug LiDi
 N00bFleeT
 Numquam Ambulare Solus
 
 20
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 20:02:00 -
          [62] - Quote 
 
 Levo Harkonnen wrote:There's a serious lack of dinosaurs in this game. Actually, its a lack of serious dinosaurs. The ones we have over here are always silly.
 
 
 
 If only we could fall into a woman's arms
 
 without falling into her hands
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        |  Penny Ibramovic
 Wormhole Engineers
 Greater Realms
 
 4
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 20:04:00 -
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 The quality of life changes Crucible has brought are fabulous. No longer are we fiddling with lots of little options here and there, or waiting for ages when we could be flying spaceships. Except when you kill window placement again.
 
 I log in wanting to play the game, but realise instead I've got to spend a few minutes putting every window back in place, and knowing that I won't be able to do all of them. Different ships' cargo holds will be reset, wrecks will be reset, containers will be reset, that one option in the menu I rarely use will be reset. This is another week of minor, petty frustrations that will keep on nagging at me.
 
 If you can't work out how to save window positions whilst making whatever changes needed to be made, can you at least, please, introduce some sane default positions? Having just about every single window open on top of your damned ship, the central, focal point of the game, obstructing your view of what you are here to enjoy, is an incredibly poor design decision. However much windows are resized, I can bet that pretty much all of them will be moved to one side or another, so that we can see our damned ship at least.
 
 Now, shall I take the time to reposition my windows, or will the next minor patch force me to do it again?
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        |  Frakir Shedimuthgur
 Vacation Spot
 
 7
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 20:32:00 -
          [64] - Quote 
 For Vista/7 users with multiple accounts who wish to replicate the window placements to all their chars:
 Enter game on one char and setup the windows the way you like.
 Exit game
 Go to: C:\Users\{Your user name}\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\f_games_eve_tranquility\settings\
 Find the core_char_{id}.dat file corresponding to the character you just modified the settings for (usually it should be the file having the most Date modified field)
 Copy that file and rename it overwriting the other existing core_char_ files
 Be happy
 Of course, it would have been extremely nice if CCP gave as a choice like this from inside the game, but if I want ease of use I should probably choose another MMO.
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        |  Dez Affinity
 Habitual Euthanasia
 Pandemic Legion
 
 3
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 21:10:00 -
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 I really don't feel like, moving 15 different windows on one account, let alone six. I have setup my UI in EVE more times than I can remember and I'm done with this ****. I'm done with it.
 
 So making me do that, then go to the effort of copying and editing files for 6x3 characters is just plain silly. Especially when I will then have to edit the characters that may be in different corps or alliances and thus need different settings.
 
 Why couldn't I just keep them as they were? Why can't you figure out how to keep the settings the same after a patch? Are you ********? It's ok if you are but it would help my anger a little more if I knew it was due to some sort of handicap.
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        |  Pa Xiongmao
 Let Me Worry About Blank
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.14 22:31:00 -
          [66] - Quote 
 The Mac client seems to be bugged. I've never had it freeze in the last year, and tonight it's frozen 4 times. Not particularly happy to do anything outside of high sec (or the more challenging high sec missions) until it gets fixed.
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        |  Zagdul
 Clan Shadow Wolf
 Fatal Ascension
 
 291
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 01:48:00 -
          [67] - Quote 
 Can we delete every post in this thread who complains about the moving of the window positions?
 
 No, really.
 
 Go play any other MMO on a patch day. Between servers being down for days, to log-in queues to needing to completely re-code your UI because your mods are broken and you need to spend WEEKS rebuilding it... to...
 
 The last few patches have fixed some of the most annoying bugs with the UI to date and you are seriously bitching about having to spend 5 minutes re-positioning them?
 
 Get serious.
 
 
 The fact that the chat windows don't jump to my mouse anymore is hands down one of the greatest things I've heard in ages.
 
 
 It's not Rocket Surgery
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        |  Jade Nexia
 CHON
 THE R0NIN
 
 10
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 07:39:00 -
          [68] - Quote 
 
 Daedalus II wrote:Jade Nexia wrote:Jack Dant wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:in the patchnotes there is no word about the disappearing station menu for some characters.For one of my characters there is never a station menu after login, it only appears after undock-cancel.
 
 Do I maybe miss the patch note or is it simply not being fixed with 1.0.2??
 
 Do you also get an error about roles as you log-in? If so, it's because you left the market deliveries hangar in another character in the same account.  My bug report about it has been unfiltered for two weeks, so I assume it's not fixed yet.EDIT: Actually, it's fixed. Also seems window settings are now per-char not per-account. That was a big change! Yes this is why all windows got reset, because windows pos was stored in core_user_(account-id).dat and now are stored in core_char_(char-id).dat . Really lame. I have 6 accounts it was hard to keep it same on all clients before, but now nearly impossible because I must maintain windows on 18 characters. Who does think that I want windows arranged diferently for each character on account? CCP wants new EVE minigame, "arrange windows setting up". Maybe you can create one of those virtual file links (forgot what they are called) so all your setting files point towards the same file? 
 You can't link core_char_(char-id).dat files together, because if you do and then run more than one client on same machine settings get corrupt. EVE client have these files open for writing. On Windows platform can't have two programs open one file for writing.
 
 
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        |  Misunderstood Genius
 Republic Military School
 Minmatar Republic
 
 4
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 10:06:00 -
          [69] - Quote 
 LOL @ all these "I have to organize my windows again" whiners. How many times were we forced to organize our windows due to a patch the last 6 years? Come on, you crybabies. Post something about the new patch what really matters. To move a few windows to their place takes a few minutes. Compared to massive waste of RL time by playing EVE in general it's a joke.
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        |  Frakir Shedimuthgur
 Vacation Spot
 
 8
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 11:47:00 -
          [70] - Quote 
 
 Zagdul wrote:
 Go play any other MMO on a patch day. Between servers being down for days, to log-in queues to needing to completely re-code your UI because your mods are broken and you need to spend WEEKS rebuilding it... to...
 
 ...
 
 The fact that the chat windows don't jump to my mouse anymore is hands down one of the greatest things I've heard in ages.
 
 Bold for the important parts.
 a) if Eve would have UI mods and I would have to redo those, yeah, I would be OK with that. However, the BASE UI is resetting every god damned patch. I don't think that happens in any other MMO out there.
 b) chat windows staying where it's supposed to... hmm... MARVELOUS... but why the **** was it moving in the first place?  I don't think that happens in any other MMO out there.
 
 
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        |  CCP Bella Bee
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 3
 
 
  
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 15:02:00 -
          [71] - Quote 
 Losing window settings was accidental, they were supposed to be migrated properly from user settings to each character settings, and this was fixed in today's update.
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        |  Dez Affinity
 Habitual Euthanasia
 Pandemic Legion
 
 3
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 15:41:00 -
          [72] - Quote 
 
 Misunderstood Genius wrote:LOL @ all these "I have to organize my windows again" whiners. How many times were we forced to organize our windows due to a patch the last 6 years? Come on, you crybabies. Post something about the new patch what really matters. To move a few windows to their place takes a few minutes. Compared to massive waste of RL time by playing EVE in general it's a joke. 
 If you don't like my feedback, you can eat a ****.
 
 Just because it's been happening for the past 6 years doesn't mean you should just accept that it will forever be broken. Can't we aspire to something a little better than breaking every patch?
 
 It takes 15 minutes per character, but it's not even about the time really, it's the soul destroying fact that I log in to see all the settings gone and I have to resize windows and move them around for 15 minutes per character before I can even play the ******* game after I just did that 3 days ago!
 
 Also, you whining about our feedback, that's rich. Where's your feedback?
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        |  electrostatus
 Center for Advanced Studies
 Gallente Federation
 
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       | Posted - 2011.12.15 16:29:00 -
          [73] - Quote 
 I had backed up my settings files for this very reason that eve sometimes resets them. Unlike previous times however, I can't just copy them back, as it resets them every time, yet doesn't after that. Why doesn't this work anymore?
 PI Profit Calculator: calculates your profits and taxes of any PI product depending on how you built them!
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        |  Palovana
 Inner Fire Inc.
 
 42
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 17:50:00 -
          [74] - Quote 
 Applied today's patch, restored a copy of settings directory from Crucible 1.0.1 and everything is where I left it.
 
 Glad I backed up before applying 1.0.2 yesterday.
 
 Allowing us to export all settings would save us a lot of trouble.
 Please support: export of settings in editable format
 
 Your stuff goes here.
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        |  Frakir Shedimuthgur
 Vacation Spot
 
 8
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 21:26:00 -
          [75] - Quote 
 
 CCP Bella Bee wrote:Losing window settings was accidental, they were supposed to be migrated properly from user settings to each character settings, and this was fixed in today's update. 
 That's why you have QA departments usually. It's not like only a couple of people were affected.
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        |  Navarre Fuego
 Gaston Mining and INdustrial
 War and Pestilence
 
 4
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 22:27:00 -
          [76] - Quote 
 Oh Dear.
 I may as well cancel both accounts.
 The client doesn't open at all, just a flash of the splash screen and then nothing, and the repair tool fails every time, with or without the firewall enabled.
 
 One skill queue ends in 3 hours or so, may as well make a start now.
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        |  Anvil44
 Independent Traders and Builders
 MPA
 
 43
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.15 23:00:00 -
          [77] - Quote 
 Minor annoyance really but log in, no one including myself in corp chat. Switch to a different chat window, then back and there I am.
 
 Windows resizing is annoying only because I can never get it back quite the way it was before so I am never sure if something works as well as before for overall viewing for a few days. Would suck even more if I found out in the middle of PvP that something is opening in the wrong spot and blocking my view of something vital.
 
 Otherwise, no real complaints.
 I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.
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        |  JaseNZ
 The Suicide Kings
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.16 00:39:00 -
          [78] - Quote 
 I can pin windows again, yay!!!
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        |  CCP Bella Bee
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 3
 
 
  
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.16 09:35:00 -
          [79] - Quote 
 
 electrostatus wrote:I had backed up my settings files for this very reason that eve sometimes resets them. Unlike previous times however, I can't just copy them back, as it resets them every time, yet doesn't after that. Why doesn't this work anymore? 
 edit: this is interesting, it overwrote my files, but kept the same file size...
 Is this still the case? In Crucible 1.0.2 window settings were migrated from user to character settings. However there was a nasty bug in the code that would wipe the settings after the migration. This was fixed in yesterday's update, so you should now be able to start the client with your old settings and get them correctly migrated.
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        |  Jarnis McPieksu
 Aliastra
 Gallente Federation
 
 100
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.16 09:58:00 -
          [80] - Quote 
 
 Navarre Fuego wrote:Oh Dear.I may as well cancel both accounts.
 The client doesn't open at all, just a flash of the splash screen and then nothing, and the repair tool fails every time, with or without the firewall enabled.
 
 One skill queue ends in 3 hours or so, may as well make a start now.
 
 Reinstall client? Fix your PC?
 
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        |  ISquishWorms
 
 32
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.16 17:04:00 -
          [81] - Quote 
 Why when fixing bugs do you go and create new ones?
  
 My chat windows in eve keeps jumping half way up the screen every time I dock. ( Yes I cleared my cache & even my settings)
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        |  Mira Stargazer
 Epic Warfare
 
 11
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.16 21:09:00 -
          [82] - Quote 
 
 ISquishWorms wrote:My chat windows in eve keeps jumping half way up the screen every time I dock. ( Yes I cleared my cache & even my settings)
 
 This! The windows just don't stay where they are placed.
 
 I have feelings, I can smile - and murder while!
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        |  Ang Min
 CPD Adventures Pte. Ltd.
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.17 09:21:00 -
          [83] - Quote 
 
 CCP Phantom wrote:EVE Online: Crucible 1.0.2 has been deployed. This update fixes various issues stemming from the Crucible release. Full patch notes are available here . This thread is for general feedback. If you encounter any issues please use the Crucible 1.0.2 issues thread here . Just a suggestion: instead of creating two separate threads for every patch release, why not just create one "Issues & Feedback" thread? Since it's not always clear what constitutes "feedback" vs. "issue" - looking at the two threads, there are a mixture of both in each one. May be better to keep it simple and just make one thread.
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        |  Deriah Book
 Fox Clan
 Inari Kimon
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.17 19:34:00 -
          [84] - Quote 
 Here is my feedback:
 
 After Crucible I visited Eve Forums for the first time. I realized I was paying to play with a piece of software that I genuinely loved before the patch, and genuinely hated after the patch. I wanted to find out if the elements I hated within the patch were purposefully installed by CCP.
 
 The animosity I felt came from the fact that my goal when logging on to Eve was to fly a spaceship around and shoot things. Instead, I would fly my spaceship a couple of jumps and then realize that what I wanted to know about my spaceship and other spaceships was not accessible for several reasons. I would then spend time rearranging my information sources to properly reflect my situation in space then set out on my journey again. A couple of jumps later I would have to repeat the whole process. Infinitely.
 
 That "game" is not the game I would choose to pay for. I chose to pay for the spaceship game but it morphed into a surreal practical experiment combining the worst operating system blunders in the history of personal computing with an evolution towards the far side of ergonomics in gaming controller design.
 
 My three main gripes were; windows moving of their own accord, windows sizing of their own accord, and important game commands being buried deeper and deeper within the control layer. It was so bad, in my mind, that if these changes were by design, I was going to quit playing Eve altogether.
 
 I came to the forums to find out. I found out nothing. Many others were complaining in the Crucible threads of exactly the same dislikes and CCP said ABSOLUTLY NOTHING about these GÇ£featuresGÇ¥. After several patches I was convinced that CCP, a gaming company, had completely lost the plot and preferred the Eve UI post crucible.
 
 I was this * close to canceling my sub when A USER posted that he heard CCP was working on changing these features. I decided to wait on one more patch.
 
 Well, these problems have been escalated in this patch. IT IS ACTUALLY MUCH WORSE than it was before. (Except for the GÇ£personal locationsGÇ¥ right click menu.) The only thing that is keeping me here is that at least now I know CCP intends to repair the bits they got wrong.
 
 I do, however, think it's a bit odd that I had to wait to see evidence of their intent in a patch rather that read it on a forum so populated with devs and GMs.
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        |  Hakaru Ishiwara
 Republic Military School
 Minmatar Republic
 
 50
 
 
       | Posted - 2011.12.18 14:02:00 -
          [85] - Quote 
 Feedback: The new transitional effect when jumping through a gate and waiting a moment or two for the new system's elements to load / render in the local client is unexpected.
 
 Specifically:
 
 1) If there is a delay in the new system loading, both local chat and the overview windows go blank. In the past, this would mean something terribly wrong has occurred between client and server (it might still have the same connotation) and prepare for a disconnect.
 
 2) The abrupt disappearance of the travel origin system's graphical assets, overview contents, etc. coupled with the fade-in of the destination system's graphical assets seems seems off. I feel like something has broken or perhaps isn't working as expected.
 
 I have historically had a low ping to the UK-based server cluster and my local workstation is well above minimum spec for the EVE client. Running Win7 64-bit with all drivers up-to-date. Etc.
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