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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 22:58:00 -
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... for LONG TERM IMPROVEMENT.
READ THIS BIT AND REMEMBER IT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay, I'm a bit of a thinker, and would like to propose this idea, just to see what everyone thinks. SO DON'T THINK THAT I AM OUT TO DO THIS!!! Flamers are ********s, please post elsewhere. This is an IDEA that I have thought of and I would like to hear/read people's thoughts. NO FLAMING. CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS ONLY! -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, so, Jita sucks, right? And it sucks more on Sundays, right? And some of you may have noticed that I continually post and campaign for people to 'STAY THE **** OUT OF JITA' - yet there are still hundreds of people, who aren't ALL new players who CONTINUE to go to Jita despite the fact that that contributes to the server going to **** so often.
So, perhaps, we could exploit the easy-to-crash situation here by making Jita soooo bad so much more often, that CCP HAVE to do something to sort out the problem. Perhaps a big alliance(s) could pay to send in LOADS of people will LOADS of shuttles in cargo bays - a bit like that problem once before, or LOADS of people fighting MASSIVE, and I mean MASSIVE battles in Jita ALL the time, giving everyone so much hassle that CCP would be forced to sort Jita out once and for all, as 80% of people on this forum have been telling them for MONTHS and MONTHS and MONTHS, without any results.
So, if we flooded Jita on mass ALL the time and fought there, suicide-smartbombed tens of people at a time and got concorde out all over the place every evening, at each day's peak player count, and really screwed things up - would this not finally get CCP to do something?
I often wonder why CCP have not yet done something? Do they think that one, possibly two nights a week of lag and stuck-ness and queues are acceptible? I don't. There must be loads of people that can only play on Sundays. And loads of people who are mission runners, who only ever aspire to go where the agents are.
So, could this be organised? Who thinks this is a good concept, who thinks this is stupid? Does anyone have the billions of ISK and enough alts with enough skillpoints to suicide bomb dozens of people in Jita in large ships?
Your thoughts please, and I refer to my initial statement I made. NO FLAMING! Just say 'bad idea, >insert reason<'. DON'T tell me to **** off and die, don't say anything rude - this is just an idea.
Thanks for your time, I hope you can appreciate the long term benefit I aimed this idea to achieve. Anyhoo - your thoughts please.....
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:00:00 -
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IBTL
Helping improve server lag by crashing the server. Hmm, I seem to remember the last people who 'protested' getting permabans ---
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 IBTL
Helping improve server lag by crashing the server. Hmm, I seem to remember the last people who 'protested' getting permabans
really? oh dear. Sorry! I just thought that this IDEA, if carried out, would finally get some results. Like people chaining themselves to trees or something.
Like I said, an IDEA - just wondered what everyone thinks.
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DOGNOSH
Minmatar Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:02:00 -
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IBTL -------------------------
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hUssmann
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Admai Sket who thinks this is stupid?
Originally by: Admai Sket NO FLAMING!
Bit of a problem there.
Constructively, jita is not going to be sorted overnight, Lagging the server to buggery will just create more emergency shutdowns and more posts about how people want the perfect game because they have to pay per month for it.
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Nero Scuro
Caldari Murder of Crows E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:03:00 -
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So you aim to improve things by acting like an immature child and stamping your feet until things change to your liking?
Nice plan sherlock. ___
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:04:00 -
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I think you should learn somethings shouldnt be posted.
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hUssmann
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro So you aim to improve things by acting like an immature child and stamping your feet until things change to your liking?
Nice plan sherlock.
I love your signature, where did you get the idea?
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:04:00 -
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I see people have started flaming already. It's an IDEA -
tell me
WOULD it work or NOT?
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Aluminaire
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:06:00 -
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I think it would only cause a deterrent banfest
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro So you aim to improve things by acting like an immature child and stamping your feet until things change to your liking?
Nice plan sherlock.
Its a crap idea, didnt sas try something like this?
quoted you because i want a moving sig aswell _________________________________________________ Breetime
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hUssmann
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Admai Sket I see people have started flaming already.
Yes, creating more lag will solve a major lag issue.
ISD? *clicks fingers*
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: hUssmann
Originally by: Admai Sket I see people have started flaming already.
Yes, creating more lag will solve a major lag issue.
ISD? *clicks fingers*
You obviously missed the whole point.
So I will simply my IDEA to make it easier for you to understand:
At the moment, I imagine that CCP has yet to do anything about the Jita problem, which has been continuing for MONTHS, because they don't see it as a priority, despite hundreds of annoyed players EVERY week. So my IDEA, IF, and IF IF IF, it was carried out, would bring the problem to the attention of CCP, who would, logically, FIX THE PROBLEM, even though there would be some time of chaos before it was fixed.
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Samuel Freedom
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:12:00 -
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CCP are not stupid, I'm sure they are going to sort it soon. I'm of the understanding that alot of work has been done recently. I read a Blog somewhere that they are onto this.. It just takes time.
What you propose will just make matters worse(A war with CCP ). Have some patients, with all the improvements do you think they will leave Jita as iot is ?
I have been stuck in Jita for over 3 hours on my main (my first time stuck there).
From the Blogs I have read they know about the problem and are woeking on it. The game seems to always be a work in progress whick imo is a good thing. Patients.
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap But yeh you will get banned, and its a retarded idea. You have more than 5000 solarsystems, go sit somewhere else.
*sighs*
FLAME! THAT is a flame. You're not reading my post very well at all!
I NEVER, EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER go to JITA! I HATE Jita on behalf of all the people who get stuck there. I am a GOOD PERSON who DOESN'T go to Jita! I'm after a long term fix for Jita, and I thought of this IDEA and wanna know if anyone else on the forums would think it works.
PLEASE REEEEEAAAAAD my post!
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Hikari Kisugi
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:12:00 -
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I think CCP are well aware of the Jita problem, perhaps you should read the devblogs where they state they are aware of it, and then state some things they are doing to attempt to solve the issue.
Dev Blogs <--------- over there somewhere ----- 'The worst spot in hell is reserved for those who betray.'
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Samuel Freedom CCP are not stupid, I'm sure they are going to sort it soon. I'm of the understanding that alot of work has been done recently. I read a Blog somewhere that they are onto this.. It just takes time.
What you propose will just make matters worse(A war with CCP ). Have some patients, with all the improvements do you think they will leave Jita as iot is ?
I have been stuck in Jita for over 3 hours on my main (my first time stuck there).
From the Blogs I have read they know about the problem and are woeking on it. The game seems to always be a work in progress whick imo is a good thing. Patients.
Thank-you for this post. It was constructive. If a solution is coming SOON rather than SOON(TM), then that's great. Although the Jita issue has been ongoing for sooo long, I can't see that it's taking this long to find a solution! The forums have been full of Jita-solution threads for months now, and afaik, nothing's been done yet.
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hikari Kisugi I think CCP are well aware of the Jita problem, perhaps you should read the devblogs where they state they are aware of it, and then state some things they are doing to attempt to solve the issue.
Dev Blogs <--------- over there somewhere
Another constructive post, thanks. Nice sig btw - a bit kinky
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Kharakan
Amarr Morticus Impendium
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Admai Sket I see people have started flaming already. It's an IDEA -
tell me
WOULD it work or NOT?
Noooooope. There's probably still a screenshot of Oveur stating he doesn't respond well to threats, back from when 4S tried something similar ;)
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:23:00 -
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CCP are trying to solve it. Are you really that naive that you think it's not a high priority for them? The nature of people is that they will always congregate to *a* hub, if not Jita then somewhere else. There is no magic bullet technology since they are close to the limit technology wise. You cannot change peoples behaviour easily either, hence it stays a problem.
Your idea would only exacerbate the problem, almost certainly getting whoever tried it banned and solve nothing.
An appropriate RL analagy would be saying "Hey, we have a bit of a crime problem but the police dont really seem to care. Let's all go on crime sprees, then they'll have to do something!" When you think about it, it's nothing but stupid.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Worms Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:29:00 -
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by making this post you have made it clear to CCP that any lag you cause is intentional for the act of crashing the server. you and your corp would be banned as well as anyone who worked with you.
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch
CCP are trying to solve it. Are you really that naive that you think it's not a high priority for them? The nature of people is that they will always congregate to *a* hub, if not Jita then somewhere else. There is no magic bullet technology since they are close to the limit technology wise. You cannot change peoples behaviour easily either, hence it stays a problem.
Your idea would only exacerbate the problem, almost certainly getting whoever tried it banned and solve nothing.
An appropriate RL analagy would be saying "Hey, we have a bit of a crime problem but the police dont really seem to care. Let's all go on crime sprees, then they'll have to do something!" When you think about it, it's nothing but stupid.
Good post, thank-you. However....
Why hubs? If agents were evenly spread out evenly amongst 0.7-1.0 systems, why would hubs develop?
Also, I like your analagy, but I'm thinking this idea is more akin to the guys from the national newspapers here in the UK who sneak weapons through customs, or packets with 'drugs' written on, or vans containing a box with the word 'BOMB' written on into supposedly high security buildings - it grabs attention and gets something done to solve the problem. One hopes.
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Samuel Freedom
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Samuel Freedom on 21/01/2007 23:32:11
Originally by: Admai Sket
Originally by: Samuel Freedom CCP are not stupid, I'm sure they are going to sort it soon. I'm of the understanding that alot of work has been done recently. I read a Blog somewhere that they are onto this.. It just takes time.
What you propose will just make matters worse(A war with CCP ). Have some patients, with all the improvements do you think they will leave Jita as iot is ?
I have been stuck in Jita for over 3 hours on my main (my first time stuck there).
From the Blogs I have read they know about the problem and are woeking on it. The game seems to always be a work in progress whick imo is a good thing. Patients.
Thank-you for this post. It was constructive. If a solution is coming SOON rather than SOON(TM), then that's great. Although the Jita issue has been ongoing for sooo long, I can't see that it's taking this long to find a solution! The forums have been full of Jita-solution threads for months now, and afaik, nothing's been done yet.
Keeping mind all the resources that CCP have been throwing at EVE, espically recently with Kali it would be really stupid for them to leave Jita out of the equation. I don't think CCP are stupid or lazy.
I suspect sorting this is a logistical nightmare and may have not been seen/dealt with before( in MMO's anyway), thus taking a long time to solve. BUT saying that I highly doubt they are going to deploy Kali then just forget about Jita, it just wouldn't make any sense what so ever.
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker by making this post you have made it clear to CCP that any lag you cause is intentional for the act of crashing the server. you and your corp would be banned as well as anyone who worked with you.
Wrong. What made you say that? Really, why did you say that? WHY? Have I not made it perfectly transparently crystal clear that this is an IDEA that I came up with, trying to achieve NOTHING except some feedback about the mechanics of the idea and possible results. Please post badly elsewhere. Thanks.
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Daddy's Belt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:35:00 -
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Ban.
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Daddy's Belt Ban.
Did you read anything of this post at all, except maybe the title? Please try again.
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:39:00 -
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the short answer is no, it won't work.
The EULA states that any attempt of disrutpion of services can be met with account bans. There are also safe guards in place that if one system is "crashed" it will not bring down the entire cluster. ___________________________ ~Jiekon
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon the short answer is no, it won't work.
The EULA states that any attempt of disrutpion of services can be met with account bans. There are also safe guards in place that if one system is "crashed" it will not bring down the entire cluster.
Ah. Ok. Thanks. Now I have a difinitive answer to my idea.
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Rowdy Yates
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:46:00 -
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Where's Jita?
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:46:00 -
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Nice idea, it won't bring down TQ but it would anger a lot of people.
Oh and you would have to leave the game, in fact, the GM's will show you the door as there that kind.
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