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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
429
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Posted - 2016.01.09 19:19:13 -
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So I will be departing EVE. I have made arrangements to do something special in return for the 5 years of truly unique gaming that only this MMO can do.
Thank you all so much. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13480
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Posted - 2016.01.09 19:23:00 -
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Can i have your stuff?
Better the Devil you know.
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Krevnos
Back Door Burglars
The Otherworld
50
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Posted - 2016.01.09 19:24:42 -
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Now I wouldn't be the type to question your 'good character', given my own rather jaded background. However, I must ask this:
May I enquire as to why there is an entry fee when the final outcome is to donate all you own? |
Memphis Baas
907
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Posted - 2016.01.09 19:26:28 -
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To prove that you're serious, of course. 
Obvious scam is obvious. |
J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
6175
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Posted - 2016.01.09 19:36:16 -
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Obvious scam is obvious...
Let me guess, by magic your alt or a friend wins...
And if you leave, I do act as a caretaker for stuff that should be sent to UaE when you leave.
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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
523
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Posted - 2016.01.09 20:21:11 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Can i have your stuff?
The entry fee is only 500m isk, then you can have his stuff
Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com
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Legion Masser
Rage-Machine
55
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Posted - 2016.01.09 20:23:44 -
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Bahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah hahahahaa hahaha
Really?
Question: What do you do with a Character that is synonymous with scamming??? So tarnished that regular scamming can no longer yield any results?
Answer: Host an "Im Quitting" final scam that requires participants to pay an entry fee , but make sure to state the event is not open to your own Alliance and disguise it with a "Make Eve Better" theme .
 Cuz everyone knows The Imperium and Scammers have always wanted Eve to be a better place for everyone
Funny Stuff
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
429
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Posted - 2016.01.09 22:00:56 -
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Krevnos wrote:Now I wouldn't be the type to question your 'good character', given my own rather jaded background. However, I must ask this:
May I enquire as to why there is an entry fee when the final outcome is to donate all you own?
The entry fees go into the pot. So my ill gotten isk and the entry fees go to the winner. I fully expect a number of people will or would try to enter this and just throw spaghetti against a wall in hopes of hitting the lotto. So 500 million is this big scary number:
- Its economically prohibitive.
The amount itself in connection to anything Goon related has become a boogeyman in its own right.
The incredibly cynical turn their nose up at the mention of it.
I don't expect good ideas to come from the fearful or cynical because they never put skin into the "game" in EVE or real life. As for the greedy, well they will have to risk losing and my experience at the poker tables is that the greedy run away from anything that puts them at risk. They like easy wins and holding onto their poker chips. Anything that asks them to take a risk tends to have them batten down the hatches and wait things out.
Either way something very neat will happen. We will have hopefully a number of great ideas come out with one being considered the best. Now the best idea will have that 2 trillion plus entry fees to make it happen, but those other ideas may find homes and people willing to help.
Now if paranoia and cynicism take hold over this event I think a conversation about that will happen. Its a conversation that at some point will have to take place. The levels of toxicity in places like Reddit and produced by certain players, you know who you are, gets to be examined. What is really worth having in a game, who is really worth having around?
Is a scammer that does his or her thing in game and leaves it all in game worse than someone who hops on Reddit or EVEnews24 makes wild assertions and encourages other players to punch someone in the face if they ever see them?
My hope is simply to see the best of us come together and do something no other game can do. |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
523
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Posted - 2016.01.09 22:11:09 -
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If you want to put everyone at ease, the solution is very very simple.
Have Chribba hold onto it.
I love Big Country and 'The Open Comms Show'.....But even I laughed when you announced on Tues. that you wanted BC to hold it.
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Borat Guereen
Chao3
Chao3 Alliance
43
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Posted - 2016.01.09 22:15:41 -
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There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode
Candidate for CSM XI
Speaker of Chao3
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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1044
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Posted - 2016.01.09 22:20:13 -
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BuckStrider wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Can i have your stuff? The entry fee is only 500m isk, then you can have his stuff
son? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
15127
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Posted - 2016.01.09 22:45:34 -
[12] - Quote
I'd be happy to assist should OP decide to take that path to ease peoples minds.
/c
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
2223
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Posted - 2016.01.09 22:59:12 -
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OP, I gave ideas for free, CCP have stuff for millenia from others. Look, people are honest, not like you. They heve been doing that for years because they have good intentions.
You would only scam people.
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
429
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Posted - 2016.01.09 23:02:01 -
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Chribba wrote:I'd be happy to assist should OP decide to take that path to ease peoples minds.
/c
If you want to touch base with BigCountry of The Open Comms Show I am fine with you holding the entry fees. If you are available that night I'd love to have you on board as one of the commentators. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
4485
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Posted - 2016.01.09 23:38:00 -
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Proposal: Give money to a guy so he decides if you're worthy to get it 4,000x.
I'd rather take a chance with a raffle than trust anyone's honesty in judging who's the winner. But then, the person asking the money is someone who's known for being a liar...
WTF, dude.
Case A: "I've been a liar, but that was a lie, I am a honest guy so here have this generous final act!"
Case B: "I've ben a liar, and I was honest about it. So this is my biggest lie ever!"
Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes.
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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Leonardo Adami
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2016.01.09 23:41:46 -
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Rofl gtfo, goon asking for 500 mil entrance fee. This is not a scam. Please |
J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
6179
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Posted - 2016.01.09 23:56:16 -
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Chribba wrote:I'd be happy to assist should OP decide to take that path to ease peoples minds.
/c
This.
Using Chribba would put 99.99% of the people's mind at easy
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
2225
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Posted - 2016.01.10 00:01:18 -
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You know Chribba would only sanction the ISKgrab. This still can be rigged so OP gets all the ISK. If you dont know how, you deserve to give him 500M.
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
791
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Posted - 2016.01.10 00:17:52 -
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The reason this isn't open to the CFC is because you're not allowed to scam blues.
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
432
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Posted - 2016.01.10 00:36:18 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:The reason this isn't open to the CFC is because you're not allowed to scam blues. How can he give his whole fortune to a "pubbie" and still help his alliance? Quote:Scooter announced his plan to give his total amassed fortune of over two trillion ISK (2,000,000,000,000 ISK and change) to the player that submits the best idea to help the Eve community as a whole. Quote:First and most important, the competition is open to anyone that is not in the Imperium. According to Scooter, this is both because the Imperium is getting its own parting gift, and because the Imperium already encourages development on its own.
Quote:Now when the most famous of Eve Online scammers asks for 500 million ISK, a healthy amount of skepticism is not only expected, but encouraged. To that end, Scooter has elected for BigCountry to receive and manage the ISK. If a pillar of the community holding the funds isnGÇÖt enough, Scooter had this to say: GÇ£If there is one thing EVE has taught me, no matter what you do, there will never be an GÇÿassuranceGÇÖ that is good enough. Either I go out doing something good for the community, or if that community is just to paranoid about this, I get a great laugh because of the irony.GÇ¥ |
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
26
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Posted - 2016.01.10 00:40:58 -
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Quote:If a pillar of the community holding the funds isnGÇÖt enough...
No, it's not enough.
It doesn't matter if Chribba holds the funds, the game is still rigged.
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
791
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Posted - 2016.01.10 00:41:23 -
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Why aren't you using a neutral third party to hold all of the ISK, possibly even a panel of neutral judges and donating the 500m fees to PLEX for Good rather than have them line your pocket in the event of there being no winner. Why not just simply donate your wealth to PLEX for Good?
You've designed this in such a way that it looks exactly like a scam, and just like a scam you request that we trust you (because this time it's different, honest), when you have proven that you are not to be trusted. Redesign this so it doesn't look exactly like your previous scams and you might get some interest.
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Lykouleon
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
1690
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Posted - 2016.01.10 00:46:44 -
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Will you be selling any bridges along with this gift? Because I really could use a good, sturdy bridge right about now.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2016.01.10 01:07:21 -
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I thought posting scams was OT in General Discussions, shouldn't this be in marketplace or For New Players or something like that. |
Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
433
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Posted - 2016.01.10 04:09:44 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Why aren't you using a neutral third party to hold all of the ISK, possibly even a panel of neutral judges and donating the 500m fees to PLEX for Good rather than have them line your pocket in the event of there being no winner. Hell, why not just simply donate your wealth to PLEX for Good?
You've designed this in such a way that it looks exactly like a scam, and much like a scam you request that we blindly trust you (because this time it's different, honest), when you have proven that you are not to be trusted. Redesign this so it doesn't look exactly like your previous scams and you might get some interest.
First and foremost its my isk. This is how I want to leave EVE and whatever the result I'm happy with it. Making you personally happy isn't what this is about. In a sporting arena there are two places to be: on the field or in the stands. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7977
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Posted - 2016.01.10 04:35:54 -
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Scooter McCabe wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:Why aren't you using a neutral third party to hold all of the ISK, possibly even a panel of neutral judges and donating the 500m fees to PLEX for Good rather than have them line your pocket in the event of there being no winner. Hell, why not just simply donate your wealth to PLEX for Good?
You've designed this in such a way that it looks exactly like a scam, and much like a scam you request that we blindly trust you (because this time it's different, honest), when you have proven that you are not to be trusted. Redesign this so it doesn't look exactly like your previous scams and you might get some interest. First and foremost its my isk. This is how I want to leave EVE and whatever the result I'm happy with it. Making you personally happy isn't what this is about. In a sporting arena there are two places to be: on the field or in the stands.
So... Can Doc just have your stuff, and then everyone is happy?
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
434
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Posted - 2016.01.10 06:52:22 -
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Doc Fury wrote:
So... Can Doc just have your stuff, and then everyone is happy?
Doc consider the following: I send you something and you post "Oh wow he isn't kidding." Someone would turn around and post that you are my alt or a goon alt. If your fellow EVE buddies came running to your defense saying you are who you are they would be called alt accounts or goon alts.
In fact right now someone reading this who can no longer tell the difference between a game and real life is thinking of posting "Doc is a goon alt shilling for Scooter so Scooter can write this response and try to meta game us all."
So on that note you are welcome to enter the contest if you have a great idea and I look forward to you and the other contestants coming on the Open Comms Show. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
792
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Posted - 2016.01.10 08:13:17 -
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Yeah, it'd be a funny turn of events if this time you were really telling the truth and fully intended to be completely honest in this endeavour.
The problem is you've cultivated exactly the opposite kind of reputation you need to pull this off properly. You could even intend to be somewhat honest about this, but because of your reputation you will be scraping the bottom of the barrel as usual and only get a few desperate or greedy people submitting ideas, the same kind of people who fell for your previous scams. In the end you'll get a few bad ideas, a few billion ISK and you can claim there was no winner while you pocket the money. This isn't even good enough to get some laughs.
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Solecist Project
The Scope
Gallente Federation
31164
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Posted - 2016.01.10 08:23:57 -
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Scooter McCabe wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
So... Can Doc just have your stuff, and then everyone is happy?
Doc consider the following: I send you something and you post "Oh wow he isn't kidding." Someone would turn around and post that you are my alt or a goon alt. If your fellow EVE buddies came running to your defense saying you are who you are they would be called alt accounts or goon alts. In fact right now someone reading this who can no longer tell the difference between a game and real life is thinking of posting "Doc is a goon alt shilling for Scooter so Scooter can write this response and try to meta game us all." So on that note you are welcome to enter the contest if you have a great idea and I look forward to you and the other contestants coming on the Open Comms Show.
There is a need to post.
People, don't listen to him. He's dishonest and an ass. Just look at the crap he writes. Everyone who believes he's a scammer and how this is just one more scam suddenly is disconnected from reality, when this guy never ever was anything else but a scammer and a goon.
1. They want your ideas, will attempt to implement them and will brag about it.
2. This is about control, not helping the game.
3. You have no guarantee you'll get the money. (anyone not Chribba simply isn't fully trustworthy)
4. He's a goon. Why aren't imperium members allowed to participate? Because goons don't scam goons.
Let the baka from reddit participate.
Two trillion isk are a guaranteed burnout in the hand of these imbeciles.
Anyone who believes this person is legit ...
... ignoring his past history ...
... is definitely disconnected from reality.
Don't give them your ideas, you will regret it.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
2241
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Posted - 2016.01.10 10:08:01 -
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"I am leaving the game! Send me 500M so I can QUADQUIDRUPLE it, or not. I am honest, really.
PS: Dont forget to write how to make game better."
Post that in Jita, OP, where is its place.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point
Northern Army
902
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Posted - 2016.01.10 12:04:50 -
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Send me the 500m and I'll double it.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
6184
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Posted - 2016.01.10 12:08:26 -
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Droidster wrote:I thought posting scams was OT in General Discussions, shouldn't this be in marketplace or For New Players or something like that.
WHAHAHAHA
Really,
YOu suggest to put this in the New Player part,
Seriously..
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ArmyOfMe
Hull Breach.
Outnumbered.
551
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Posted - 2016.01.10 12:46:18 -
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Shouldnt this be in crime and punisment? 
QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken
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Luca Lure
Obertura
56
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Posted - 2016.01.10 13:35:56 -
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Who insures us that Big Country is not going to buy pizza for 2 tril ISK after which we can call him BIgger Country?
GÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇòGÇò
The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
436
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Posted - 2016.01.10 15:27:29 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Yeah, it'd be a funny turn of events if this time you were really telling the truth and fully intended to be completely honest in this endeavour.
The problem is you've cultivated exactly the opposite kind of reputation you need to pull this off properly. You could even intend to be somewhat honest about this, but because of your reputation you will be scraping the bottom of the barrel as usual and only get a few desperate or greedy people submitting ideas, the same kind of people who fell for your previous scams. In the end you'll get a few bad ideas, a few billion ISK and you can claim there was no winner while you pocket the money. This isn't even good enough to get some laughs.
No I absolutely was a scammer and yes there will be some that just stay away from this because of that fact. That's fine by me. But I doubt there will be a few bad ideas. I don't think you give our community the credit it deserves and even though you won't be participating I hope you will watch and support those that do. |
BigCountry
Specter Syndicate
Circle-Of-Two
19
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Posted - 2016.01.10 15:41:48 -
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i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something |
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
272
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Posted - 2016.01.10 16:00:21 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:Shouldnt this be in crime and punisment?
It ought to be...somewhere...but not here Maybe OOPE as it's a "I quit" post?
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."
- Hunter S. Thompson
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Memphis Baas
913
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Posted - 2016.01.10 16:07:17 -
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So what exactly do you imagine you or CCP will be doing with this great idea that we'll be pooping out?
Cause I don't think "ideas" is where CCP is lacking. Manpower, ability to follow through, quality of implementation, sure. Ideas? I imagine their hundred employees and who knows how many volunteers and all of us on the forums can poop out millions of ideas each day.
This is why it's a scam; you're making a crusade to "save EVE" based on something that's worthless.
Here's a free idea: CCP should seize the assets of anyone who declares they're quitting EVE, because they're quitting after all, and CCP can put the ISK and PLEXes to use to pay their bills or for PLEX4Good. Will also eliminate all the fake drama "I quit" posts. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
15140
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Posted - 2016.01.10 16:34:48 -
[39] - Quote
BigCountry wrote:i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something
I was more thinking both the prize and the entry fee's, so I can verify that there actually is a prize as well. Plus of course have some means of way to verify winners.
But then entries could be voted for on reddit for example with hidden scores, that would also make use of the community to vote for what they would like to see. A kickstarted type of thing for ISK.
/c
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
793
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:41:44 -
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Chribba wrote:BigCountry wrote:i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something I was more thinking both the prize and the entry fee's, so I can verify that there actually is a prize as well. Plus of course have some means of way to verify winners. But then entries could be voted for on reddit for example with hidden scores, that would also make use of the community to vote for what they would like to see. A kickstarted type of thing for ISK. /c
Of course a community vote would be the fairest for contestants, but like Scooter said before; it is his ISK and he wants to decide where it goes.
If people want to give away their ideas then that's up to them, but the biggest issue is the non-refundable entry fee that encourages Scooter to act as he has countless times in the past, simply stating he doesn't like any ideas offered while keeping the ISK. If the entry fee were to go to a charitable cause this conflict of interest would be resolved and trolls would still be deterred, it's not like Scooter cares about the ISK since he's quitting, right?
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Ibutho Inkosi
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:47:54 -
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Entry fee of 500 million for such a generous benefaction - and for one who is touted as the most fabulous scammer in history. Really, the largesse alone is breath taking. However, if generosity indeed it were, the buy-in would be gauche, graceless, ill-mannered, insensitive, and shall we say just a tad on the SUSPECT side?
Pass. But, thanks for thinking of us.
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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
527
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Posted - 2016.01.10 18:42:13 -
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Johan Civire wrote:BuckStrider wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Can i have your stuff? The entry fee is only 500m isk, then you can have his stuff son?
Daddy?
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TheDamned
Galactic Relic Hunters Unity
2
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Posted - 2016.01.10 18:56:41 -
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I read the article, and this "contest" appears to either be one final scam for the ages or just a record breaking attempt by a nororious scammer. 500m ISK entry fee? hahahaha
Well played. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1077
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Posted - 2016.01.10 19:05:47 -
[44] - Quote
Good show. +1
Remove insurance.
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Annemariela Antonela
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
160
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Posted - 2016.01.10 19:30:25 -
[45] - Quote
I mean...
GÇ£Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.GÇ¥
GÇò Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
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Bringer of BadNews
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2016.01.10 19:34:02 -
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I never heard of this guy....I assume that perhaps 1/100th of his fortune was acquired by scams, the rest by boring care-bearing and null sec ratting, and after 5 years this bro has realized what a time waste it all was and leaves...dude, join low sec pvp and do some real PVP, you will be back in the game in no time. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
472
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Posted - 2016.01.10 20:46:41 -
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500m entry fee = Blows the cover of the scam
invitation for chribbas service ignored, instead suggesting c shall join the jury
ha ha how unfunny
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4326
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Posted - 2016.01.10 21:01:39 -
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Chribba wrote:BigCountry wrote:i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something I was more thinking both the prize and the entry fee's, so I can verify that there actually is a prize as well. Plus of course have some means of way to verify winners. But then entries could be voted for on reddit for example with hidden scores, that would also make use of the community to vote for what they would like to see. A kickstarted type of thing for ISK. /c
Right. The scam wouldn't be in which reputable person holds the funds. It would be in deciding who the funds go to. Can you give us the fine print on that, OP? If we don't have that, I'll just continue throwing my 500mil away on bad NHL and NFL bets.
You're trying to conquer me
You never will conquer me
-Delroy Wilson
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
1094
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Posted - 2016.01.10 21:15:24 -
[49] - Quote
BuckStrider wrote:If you want to put everyone at ease, the solution is very very simple.
Have Chribba hold onto it.
And have Chribba also decide the winner? Because otherwise it's pointless.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
438
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Posted - 2016.01.10 21:19:18 -
[50] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Chribba wrote:BigCountry wrote:i am more than happy to let Chribba , hold the entry fees, just tweet me or something I was more thinking both the prize and the entry fee's, so I can verify that there actually is a prize as well. Plus of course have some means of way to verify winners. But then entries could be voted for on reddit for example with hidden scores, that would also make use of the community to vote for what they would like to see. A kickstarted type of thing for ISK. /c Right. The scam wouldn't be in which reputable person holds the funds. It would be in deciding who the funds go to. Can you give us the fine print on that, OP? If we don't have that, I'll just continue throwing my 500mil away on bad NHL and NFL bets.
Right now Big Country is holding the ISK, if Chribba wants to show up and hold it that's fine by me. I am picking the winner and its not going to be some b.s. idea or something functionally impossible. I have invited to Big Country to not send out the ISK if he thinks foul play is afoot.
But if you are throwing down bets for the NFL put a billion on the Redskins. You never know.
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Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
249
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Posted - 2016.01.10 21:21:24 -
[51] - Quote
Can goonswarm send me 500,000,000,000 so I can submit an idea? It's going to one of your corpies so this request is completely legit. Help one of your members out indirectly and all that.
I can has blogging skills!
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
438
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Posted - 2016.01.10 21:39:36 -
[52] - Quote
Annemariela Antonela wrote:
I can't believe I almost didn't click on that. That is the best thing I have seen in weeks, I'm going to frame it and put it by my bed side. Thank you. |
Archinquisitor
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2016.01.10 21:42:19 -
[53] - Quote
Disclaimer: I am with the Imperium and I will never take any of Scooter's money. I am just putting out a constructive idea no matter if its eligible to win or not.
TLDR: the 2.000.000.000.000 ISK should go to an open SRP fund for new players venturing into nullsec/lowsec/wspace
Long version:
Imho the biggest divide in this community is between nullsec/lowsec/wspace players and highsec 'carebears'. It is my firm belief that the latter group is massively missing out on some of the best content this game has to offer. You like to mine in 0.8 space? That's fine. You like to run missions in Osmon all day? Go ahead. Just know that there is so much more to this game. Let's be honest, compared to other MMOs, Eve has subpar PVE. If one experiences only the PVE aspect it is not unlikely that one will lose interest. If one never experiences the harsh, exhilarating, unforgiving, exciting, heart-pounding PVP and metagame, that's one less happy player to give account about her or his experiences, that's one wasted opportunity to break into a game like no other, that's one less buddy to call friend or foe. The detrimental effect this has at large scale on the game needs not be described, or else this would be another 'Eve is dying' post.
The problem is, people are risk adverse by human nature. Even in a lab experiment without any real life consequences. People avoid loss, even if it is only space pixels. So let's take away that fear. Replace their losses at 150%. (Gasp!) Make them fear losing out because they are NOT risking their ships. Don't make PVP a losing game for them. Don't make it a null sum play. Make it a winning game.
So install a 2.000.000.000.000 ISK ship replacement fund open to everyone. With a simple web interface where people can post their lossmails. Player age <90 days and system sec <0.5 and player limit of 100 mil not yet met? Instant ISK transfer. (You might want to fine tune these.)
I hear your screams. Will this be gamed? Hell, yes. Will we see alts made to exploit this? Hopefully. Will someone lose ship after ship to get rich? Shame on him.
In the worst case, there will be endless content on the borders of highsec.
In the best case, that's 20.000 new PVPers.
If you find this idea lacking or sucking, great, post yours, post a better one. |
Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
26
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Posted - 2016.01.10 22:21:31 -
[54] - Quote
Archinquisitor wrote:...I will never take any of Scooter's money.
Nor will anyone else.
Rothbard's Casino
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Archinquisitor
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2016.01.10 22:25:51 -
[55] - Quote
Edwin Rothbard wrote:Archinquisitor wrote:...I will never take any of Scooter's money. Nor will anyone else.
I don't care if it's a scam or not, and neither should you.
2,000,000,000,000 ISK is bound to get some attention, so it's a good catalyst for idea generation.
And if you are afraid someone could steal 'your' idea about a space pixel game, you need to get real.
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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3289
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Posted - 2016.01.10 23:11:58 -
[56] - Quote
Operation Magic School Bus will not put forward isk better used to help the newbros but IF you decide what we have been doing for the past year is worthy. Great
If not . . . well, at least I will not have wasted donor funds on a bad bet.
and this does stink to high heaven of being a bad bet
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
1040
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Posted - 2016.01.10 23:42:36 -
[57] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Can i have your stuff?
Can I have it when you've finished with it?
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1195
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Posted - 2016.01.11 01:03:45 -
[58] - Quote
"Damn, I've completely run out of ideas...
wait! I'll get people to send me money to consider their ideas!"
Send it all to PLEX4Good.
All of it.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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morion
Lighting Build
42
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Posted - 2016.01.11 01:41:07 -
[59] - Quote
If real i will offer to enter. I can offer to continue my in game work.
and move it forward into a solution and and price the global ice market in new interesting ways
including exstreamly fun wavy rides fun for the WHOLE FAMILY.
take a nightmarish market ride with a newtral bias ...
lasting for ever ( ;
the 500m i have to pass on that isk would come from isk curently buying back sacred blood to keep our world in ratio ballence. |
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
249
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Posted - 2016.01.11 02:26:50 -
[60] - Quote
Archinquisitor wrote:
Imho the biggest divide in this community is between nullsec/lowsec/wspace players and highsec 'carebears'. It is my firm belief that the latter group is massively missing out on some of the best content this game has to offer. You like to mine in 0.8 space? That's fine. You like to run missions in Osmon all day? Go ahead. Just know that there is so much more to this game.
I tried going into null once. Over 9,000 svipuls jumped on me within a minute of arriving. I thought I did a good job of checking the map ahead of time and I didn't see that many people logged in in the map in that or the surrounding systems combined. While I know I did several things wrong, I'm not 100% sure what they were and I'm not keen to repeat the experience.
That's the biggest problem. Not being able to easily answer what I did wrong. The process of having to read too many wikis and watch too many youtube vids to answer that is daunting.
I think the biggest barrier to entry for null is the fact that you have to be willing to lose a number of ships/pods early on to learn how to survive there. Either those losses drive you to try harder or move on for easier pastures were you aren't getting swarmed before you can get your bearings. Lyte over at riot is fond of reminding people that bad experiences weigh twice as much as good ones. Also first impressions matter a lot. So for the typical newbie to null, some of your early impressions will be of your butt getting kicked by a dozen ships working as a team, each one costing 4-10 times more than what you are currently flying. That's enough to drive at least some people back to high sec and make them bitter towards going into null.
I'm not saying null is terrible and I'm sure a lot of people have lots of fun there. However it does have a barrier to entry and a bit of a learning curve until you figure out how to fly relatively smart. Either you get over that barrier before getting frustrated or you head back to high sec. Since I have no idea how long its going to take me to have fun there, nor how much isk I'm going to be flushing down the crapper in doing. So why go back if I can just expect to lose and not have fun in the process? If I could have fun, that'd be something else. But I didn't have any fun the last time I tried null. Or the time before that. Or the time before that.
I can has blogging skills!
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Ninlarra
Tounge punching fart boxes
35
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Posted - 2016.01.11 02:41:19 -
[61] - Quote
Scooter McCabe wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
So... Can Doc just have your stuff, and then everyone is happy?
Doc consider the following: I send you something and you post "Oh wow he isn't kidding." Someone would turn around and post that you are my alt or a goon alt. If your fellow EVE buddies came running to your defense saying you are who you are they would be called alt accounts or goon alts. In fact right now someone reading this who can no longer tell the difference between a game and real life is thinking of posting "Doc is a goon alt shilling for Scooter so Scooter can write this response and try to meta game us all." So on that note you are welcome to enter the contest if you have a great idea and I look forward to you and the other contestants coming on the Open Comms Show.
I applaud your fallacies and double talk sir. Your a victim of circumstances, and all the lies and bullshit you have spread over the past five years was all jokes. Your a liar and a thief and no one rightfully trusts you. Period. Rethink your ****** scam and try again. |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
2051
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Posted - 2016.01.11 02:51:00 -
[62] - Quote
Archinquisitor wrote:TLDR: the 2.000.000.000.000 ISK should go to an open SRP fund for new players venturing into nullsec/lowsec/wspace
I had almost the exact same idea when I was thinking about this earlier. My version was to reimburse all new players in all space who lost their ship against another player or CONCORD. Anything to encourage new players to shoot things that the risk averse would say they shouldn't.
My lord.
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ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
273
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Posted - 2016.01.11 02:58:14 -
[63] - Quote
Topic Moved to In-Game events.
~ISD Buldath
Interstellar Services Department
Support, Training and Resources Division
Lt. Commander
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Archinquisitor
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2016.01.11 08:53:51 -
[64] - Quote
Linna Excel wrote:
I tried going into null once. Over 9,000 svipuls jumped on me within a minute of arriving. I thought I did a good job of checking the map ahead of time and I didn't see that many people logged in in the map in that or the surrounding systems combined. While I know I did several things wrong, I'm not 100% sure what they were and I'm not keen to repeat the experience.
I don't think you did anything wrong. Quite the opposite, you took the first step in the right direction. Yes, you probably didn't execute the details properly. Nobody does, not after years. If I were to randomly jump to nullsec somewhere solo, the results would be much the same.
Linna Excel wrote:That's the biggest problem. Not being able to easily answer what I did wrong. The process of having to read too many wikis and watch too many youtube vids to answer that is daunting.
To each their own, wikis and vids are nice and all, but I'd advise to talk to real people. There's several public fleets every week, where everybody can join, and they are going to roam around null, often getting hilarious results. And die in the end.
Linna Excel wrote:I think the biggest barrier to entry for null is the fact that you have to be willing to lose a number of ships/pods early on to learn how to survive there. Either those losses drive you to try harder or move on for easier pastures were you aren't getting swarmed before you can get your bearings. Lyte over at riot is fond of reminding people that bad experiences weigh twice as much as good ones. Also first impressions matter a lot. So for the typical newbie to null, some of your early impressions will be of your butt getting kicked by a dozen ships working as a team, each one costing 4-10 times more than what you are currently flying. That's enough to drive at least some people back to high sec and make them bitter towards going into null.
Okay, here's a tip. If that happens to you, check your loss mail. There'll be a number of players on it in different ships and doing different ammounts of damage. Check their characters. Was everyone of them really that much older than your char? Did everyone of them really do much more damage than you could ever had done? Probably not. They probably had newbros with them, and some of them weren't elite pvpers either. What I am saying is, you could probably have been one of them. You could have done better than the worst of them. And this means you could be a valuable addition to their ranks. Their shiny ships? Most probably given to them for free or easily earned. So their ships, too, are within of your reach.
So turn your experience around: you just met a great bunch of people who obviously know more about that area of space than you and who are better organized. Talk to them. Yes, they will smack talk you at first. It's like a girl in a bar, they all do at first. But you might be pleasantly surprised. And btw, not a single 'elite pvper' or solo youtuber in this game will win or even live against 12 combat ships working as a team, no matter what.
Linna Excel wrote:I'm not saying null is terrible and I'm sure a lot of people have lots of fun there. However it does have a barrier to entry and a bit of a learning curve until you figure out how to fly relatively smart. Either you get over that barrier before getting frustrated or you head back to high sec.
It absolutely has a barrier to entry. Still, I believe you are in a minority as you at least tried. And the idea sketched above is meant to lower that barrier and entice more people to try (at no risk).
Linna Excel wrote:Since I have no idea how long its going to take me to have fun there, nor how much isk I'm going to be flushing down the crapper in doing. So why go back if I can just expect to lose and not have fun in the process? If I could have fun, that'd be something else. But I didn't have any fun the last time I tried null. Or the time before that. Or the time before that.
That's only rational to do. However, I would advise thinking about your definition of fun. Maybe you can expand it a little. Maybe 'fun' does not necessarily be 'winning' or gaining stuff? Maybe it's also in the stories and the losses? I see you have a blog. What do you think will make for the stronger story for your readers: your highsec exploits in some measure of isk/hour or your glorious explosion at the stargates of hell?
However, I take away from your comment that there is one major barrier to entry to nullsec: not having a group or community at first to show one the ropes. This has been discussed many times. Unfortunately, it is not something easily remedied with ISK.
Good luck on your endeavours, I seriously hope you give nullsec another shot and tell your readers about it. |
Adarics
Academy of EVE
Evil At Work
3
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Posted - 2016.01.13 02:16:07 -
[65] - Quote
Due to our interest in helping and enhancing the experience of everyone in New Eden and considering we have 18 projects in the works that focus's on Community, Education and Entertainment, the Evil At Work Network will be entering this contest.
Worst case, if this were to be a scam it will be considered advertisement for one of our major things we have going on for only 500 Million ISkies :)
If the contest turn out to be valid, and we were selected the Iskies would go towards our Open Community Benefits that are in the works, player ran events, Charity and Sponsorship. basically to the same place earnings from the EVE Casino will go to as well.
Adarics
Co-Founder of Evil At Work
Team Lead/Engine Coder
Evil At Work
EOC.TV : https://www.eoc.tv
EVE Casino : http://www.evecasino.net
OurEVE: http://www.OurEVE.com
Evil At Work: http://www.evilatwork.co
More projects to be listed soon...
Twitter: @EvilAtWork_co
Twitter: @Adarics
Email: [email protected]
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
438
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Posted - 2016.01.13 22:56:59 -
[66] - Quote
Adarics wrote:Due to our interest in helping and enhancing the experience of everyone in New Eden and considering we have 18 projects in the works that focus's on Community, Education and Entertainment, the Evil At Work Network will be entering this contest. Worst case, if this were to be a scam it will be considered advertisement for one of our major things we have going on for only 500 Million ISkies :) If the contest turn out to be valid, and we were selected the Iskies would go towards our Open Community Benefits that are in the works, player ran events, Charity and Sponsorship. basically to the same place earnings from the EVE Casino will go to as well. AdaricsCo-Founder of Evil At Work Team Lead/Engine Coder Evil At WorkEOC.TV : https://www.eoc.tvEVE Casino : http://www.evecasino.netOurEVE: http://www.OurEVE.comEvil At Work: http://www.evilatwork.coMore projects to be listed soon...Twitter: @EvilAtWork_coTwitter: @AdaricsEmail: [email protected]
Send BIg Country a message. Right now we are aiming to do 5 minutes a person for each presentation on air. Though we can probably work something out so you can fire off all your projects and causes.
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Adarics
Academy of EVE
Evil At Work
3
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Posted - 2016.01.14 09:18:05 -
[67] - Quote
thanks scooter.
We have too many projects to go over them all and a good chunk of our projects are still locked away from public knowledge until they are close to an Beta Release. We are good at keeping the arsenal under lock and key :)
Out of our 18, only 5-6 have been mentioned one way or another publicly as they are very close to completion. With EVE Casino to be next in line to launch into BETA here in the next few weeks (or less)...
We will pull one out of our treasure chest for this contest that we have been working on for almost 1.6 years :) - I would like to say its the coolest thing we have ever done and we are almost complete ;) - Worst case it will be advertisement for the project.
Maybe we can include the projects already publicly mentioned and our causes. Up to you guys. Let me know.
Adarics
Co-Founder of Evil At Work
Team Lead/Engine Coder
Evil At Work
EOC.TV : https://www.eoc.tv
EVE Casino : http://www.evecasino.net
OurEVE: http://www.OurEVE.com
Evil At Work: http://www.evilatwork.co
More projects to be listed soon...
Twitter: @EvilAtWork_co
Twitter: @Adarics
Email: [email protected]
EOC.TV - EVE Casino - Evil At Work Network - OurEVE - EVE Grid - EVE Drive
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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
439
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Posted - 2016.01.15 03:57:00 -
[68] - Quote
Depending on how many people actually stick their neck out for this you may actually have more time. Also if you are the only one that enters and I don't like your idea, BC will send back your entry fee. So if you do end up being the only one make it count. |
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