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Alexis Adoudel
Sith Innovations
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Posted - 2016.01.10 14:11:47 -
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Anyone got any real good level 4 mission fits for Nestors or an abadoon? Cant decide which i want to use, got amar battleship up to 5 and gallente up to 4, about to unlock T2 lasers and i've got T2 cap rechargers. Thoughts? |

Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.10 15:15:58 -
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I'm not gonna lay it out module for module but I'd go roughly like this: -
Abaddon btw, nestor isn't great for missioning.
Rig Discharge elu x2 CCC x1
High ALL the mega pulse lasers
Mid afterburner OR mwd Cap recharger x3
Low Heat sink x3 Reactive armor hardener EANM EANM OR cap power relay OR tracking enhancer Large armor rep
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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Angel Mortalitas
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.10 15:37:11 -
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Pretty much what Moonlit said and definitely skip the Nestor. For the amount of isk you would have to spend to make the Nestor (not to mention the cost of the ship itself) even come close to working you better off investing in a Palladin.
I (read: my main) gave the Nestor a go a while back just for s@$ts and giggles and, to be perfectly honest, it's a good thing I'm something of a collector 
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Altair Taurus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.10 16:19:53 -
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Nestor - ship without purpose...
Paladin - good but long training time so bring Nightmare and rule in level 4 missions! |

Alexis Adoudel
Sith Innovations
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Posted - 2016.01.10 16:22:05 -
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So i've got a modified version of that ready to fit in EFT which i'll post later but it's got 335 healed DPS and deals 541 DPS with EM 65 therm 55 kin 48 and exp 45 resistances? this good enough for soloing level 4's in high sec? |

Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.10 16:28:11 -
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Alexis Adoudel wrote:So i've got a modified version of that ready to fit in EFT which i'll post later but it's got 335 healed DPS and deals 541 DPS with EM 65 therm 55 kin 48 and exp 45 resistances? this good enough for soloing level 4's in high sec? The fit will vary in performance with skills. And bear in mind the reactive armor hardener will improve your resistances as you're getting shot. In missions it's usually only 1 or 2 types of damage so you get 30% or more in those resistances.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:19:03 -
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Altair Taurus wrote:Nestor - too expensive a ship to have a reasonable purpose...

Better the Devil you know.
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Jack Hayson
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:29:57 -
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Neither?
Apoc or Paladin. |

Alexis Adoudel
Sith Innovations
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Posted - 2016.01.10 20:06:23 -
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Jack Hayson wrote:Neither?
Apoc or Paladin. just used EFT to fit an apoc with triple Armor repairs for 410 DPS healed and 400dps done |

Llehctim Ttirrem
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.10 23:16:03 -
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Alexis Adoudel wrote:Anyone got any real good level 4 mission fits for Nestors or an abadoon? Cant decide which i want to use, got amar battleship up to 5 and gallente up to 4, about to unlock T2 lasers and i've got T2 cap rechargers. Thoughts?
maybe try a Hyperion??
[High] 6 x 425mm Proto Gauss
[Mid] Tracking Comp II 100MN Monopropellent AB 3 x Cap Recharger II
[Low] Damage Control II 3 x Mag Stab II Large Armor Rep II 2 mission specific Hardeners.
[Rig] 2 x Large Aux Nano Pump II Large Nanobot Accelerator II
[Drone] 5 x heavy/sentry 5 x med or 5 lights 5 meds 4 heavies/sentries
417 DPS off the guns with Antimatter, 391 DPS tank with a T2 armor rep. i have a Centus X-type on mine that puts it to 616 DPS tanked. |
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Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2016.01.11 02:41:20 -
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If you are going to spend a wad of cash on something to be massively OP for high sec PvE, why not just get the ship that is massively OP for null sec PvE while you're at it? The T3 cruiser.
Drop that billion isk for a Nestor on a Tengu and you can solo The Maze 10/10 combat site. There is certainly no high sec PvE short of Incursions that will even dent your shields.
Then you can refit, go explore and hack sites, cloak up and run amok in low or null sec, even act as a fleet booster if you want to run PvE with friends. With something like the Tengu, you can even switch between missiles and turrets. There can be more to PvE than just minimizing the time you do it, and more than L4's for content in this game.
Having said that- why wouldn't you just go with a faction BS? The Rattlesnake is pretty much the new Ishtar for AFK grinding. I tried one out and it was hilariously OP with just T2 fittings.
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1095
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Posted - 2016.01.11 06:32:59 -
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IMO get a Caldari BS 1 and use Nightmare if you feel like using Amarr BS skill and lasers. If you aren't missioning in Sansha/BR-heavy regions, then anything from Gallente ship line will be better, I suppose.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Daku Otsito
Otsito Response Team
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Posted - 2016.01.11 09:40:54 -
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i have been waiting for this, for 2 YEARS NOW, here have a f****** nestor L4 fit, muhahahahah !
[Nestor, the worst mission runnr evah] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Heat Sink II
Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith B-Type EM Ward Field Pith B-Type Thermal Dissipation Field Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800 Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Improved Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Energy Locus Coordinator II Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Curator II x5
it will run l4s , yes sir it will, but may bob have mercy on your soul if you don't have full tank and fitting skills |

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.11 13:35:34 -
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Nightmare, Navy geddon/apoc way better than baddon. Nestor is just not that great for missioning. |

Altair Taurus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.11 15:34:40 -
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As I said: if you plan to mission in Amarr space - get Nightmare, if you plan to mission in different empires - get Rattlesnake or Barghest. There is no need to train Marauders or pick up T1/faction battleships when pirate hulls are relatively cheap now and they outperform T1/faction hulls by a large margin. |

aldhura
Bartledannians Nite Owls
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Posted - 2016.01.13 02:08:30 -
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If you decide to stick with amarr ships for now, get a navy apoc, abadon isn't great for missions.
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Ardevealca
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.13 12:54:18 -
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I am roleplaying soe faction and what is the best fit for Nestor for level four missions? I know that it is not the best choice, but I am not trying to maximize my income. Just enjoying the SOE ship collection. I cannot fly it yet, but I will be able soon. |

Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
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Posted - 2016.01.13 14:38:59 -
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Ardevealca wrote:I am roleplaying soe faction and what is the best fit for Nestor for level four missions? I know that it is not the best choice, but I am not trying to maximize my income. Just enjoying the SOE ship collection. I cannot fly it yet, but I will be able soon. I would never condone the usage of a nestor, lv4 missions in particular. But since you're an RPer you're beyond saving anyways. So i give you the Nostromo
[Nestor, Nostromo] Imperial Navy Heat Sink Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Imperial Navy Heat Sink Power Diagnostic System II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Drone Link Augmentor II Small Tractor Beam I
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Curator II x5 Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Bouncer II x5
Engagement range is +-70km. Use the LMJD to get range, deploy drones of choice (All of them can hit, to varying degrees of effectiveness, at 70km) and kill. This fit even has a little bit of headroom should your fitting skills not be quite up to scratch. It's also perfectly safe as well since no lv4 mission has ships that can stop your LMJD and you have an align time (At max skills) of 6.6 seconds. So when the sh*t hits the fan, just pop your LMJD and GTFO.
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Ginnie
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.13 20:20:26 -
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I like the Napoc...for level 4 missions works well. I used to use an Abby, but they shafted the armor resistance bonuses a while ago :(
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. -Edgar Allan Poe
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:27:29 -
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[Abaddon, TPOGP] Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Ammatar Navy Heat Sink
100MN Afterburner II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Large Nanobot Accelerator I Large Energy Locus Coordinator II Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Oh god.
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Abby Silverwind
Demonic Retribution The Initiative.
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Posted - 2016.01.15 01:08:23 -
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Alexis Adoudel wrote:Anyone got any real good level 4 mission fits for Nestors or an abadoon? Cant decide which i want to use, got amar battleship up to 5 and gallente up to 4, about to unlock T2 lasers and i've got T2 cap rechargers. Thoughts?
You Sir are doing it wrong
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
Your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
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Posted - 2016.01.15 03:35:09 -
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Alexis Adoudel wrote:Jack Hayson wrote:Neither?
Apoc or Paladin. just used EFT to fit an apoc with triple Armor repairs for 410 DPS healed and 400dps done
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot were you thinking? And more important, how do you get a boat to heal? Lifeforms like we know a few of them can be healed, not all of them but some.
You can repair armor and you can remove capacitor and out it on your shields but this has nothing to do with ships.
You are going about this wrong. You want to repair enough armor on an Apoc so she doesn't explode and kill all the red thingies in the meantime. There is very little reason to have all your modules on all the time in most cases.
Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them correctly. Small gang and solo action in high, low and nullsec and w-space alike.
We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.01.16 21:46:23 -
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If you're low skilled use a N. Apoc and forget about Nestor. I get you RP however you don't need to make unnecessary sacrifices and just make your character seem unintelligent by using a inefficient ship when there are plenty other choices that will handle level fours considerably better.
N. Apoc>Nightmare>Paladin
Also get T2 guns if you don't already have them, they make a world of difference
Oderint Dum Metuant
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.01.16 21:52:58 -
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Aralieus wrote:If you're low skilled use a N. Apoc and forget about Nestor. I get you RP however you don't need to make unnecessary sacrifices and just make your character seem unintelligent by using a inefficient ship when there are plenty other choices that will handle level fours considerably better.
N. Apoc>Nightmare>Paladin
Also get T2 guns if you don't already have them, they make a world of difference
E Source: I used to run 4's in a Bhaalgorn. While doable and I did enjoy the site of my Bhaal ripping thru NPC's it just wasn't as fast as my npoc or Abby. Abaddon is a cap whore so not a solid choice for someone with low SP and experience in level 4's. You hit the wrong triggers and watch your ship explode
Oderint Dum Metuant
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elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
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Posted - 2016.01.17 10:44:27 -
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Aralieus wrote:If you're low skilled use a N. Apoc and forget about Nestor. I get you RP however you don't need to make unnecessary sacrifices and just make your character seem unintelligent by using a inefficient ship when there are plenty other choices that will handle level fours considerably better.
N. Apoc>Nightmare>Paladin
Also get T2 guns if you don't already have them, they make a world of difference
No worries, everything but a small detail is true and we all do mistakes sometimes, it happens 
Now the order of progression for young players is:
Apoc < Navy Apoc < Paladin (well I have my reservations here..) <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nightmare (the crown jewel and True Sansha).
You're welcome
Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them correctly. Small gang and solo action in high, low and nullsec and w-space alike.
We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:04:03 -
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I think the geddon is a pretty solid choice these days thanks to it's new role state. It's not really a laser ship though. A solid choice if you have good drone skills.
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
295
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Posted - 2016.01.18 00:17:39 -
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Geddon is fun although N. Geddon is a beast which I forgot all about.
Oderint Dum Metuant
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2016.01.18 01:09:06 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Altair Taurus wrote:Nestor - too expensive a ship to have a reasonable purpose... 
See you say that, and you change your thoughts when 5 of them are undocked, saving your bacon from a 15 man fleet. XD
#DeleteTheWeak
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
446
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Posted - 2016.01.18 02:29:06 -
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Altair Taurus wrote:Nestor - ship without purpose...
OBJECTION!
The Nestor's clear and obvious purpose is to be used as an emergency Mobile Depot in supercapital brawls.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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