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Angelic Resolution Arcanum Defence Forces	Posted - 2007.02.03 03:57:00 - [1] Here's a little fact. I just fought a nanophoon that went 4.8k's. This nanophoon managed to pop a raven and a megathron without losing his shields completely. My t2 cruise missiles did all on 0.1 dmg on him when he was going full speed. The only reason he got to within 3/4's of shields was because he turned wrong. Care to tell me how this is balanced. Anyone? oh that's right.. It's not. Put it any way you want the tactic used although sound, is so far unbalanced it isn't funny. We had a gang of 13 ships after this one nanophoon and all of us could deal damage to a normal ship. But these nanoships, you'd be lucky if you even hit them with a small rail let alone a decent hit with missiles.
Angelic Resolution Arcanum Defence Forces	Posted - 2007.02.04 14:33:00 - [2] JVol, go back and read the part where I wrote my T2 cruise missiles hitting for 0.1 damage. Then read it again. Let it sink in. Our fastest inty went 5400/s. Then got insta locked down, nos'd and popped. Nano pilots are smart enough to stay inside of 150km's of any small fleet near them, know why? Cause at 150km's you'll get jumped on by the rest. Now I have only fought 2 nanobs's, one was the above. The other was a rather cheap skilled unknowlegable pilot that I got to half armor before a blue jumped into system and he decided to run. It's fair is it JVol? A raven vs a blasterthron. Even battle. A geddon vs a rokh. Even Battle. A Nanodomi and a nanophoon vs geddon, rokh, blasterthron, raven. Uneven battle. Know how I know? Cause the lasers, blasters and drones don't track. And the T2 torp raven hits for 10dmg. It's really balanced. Jammers, yeah sure they work lovely. Tracking disruptors... Sensor Damp's.. why didn't I think of that..? Cause they're useless. You have a nanoBS feel like he's getting the damp or anything similar, it's run away and he comes back when their isn't a gang. Fine sure no problems. Or the other problem occurs were you have a bullseye painted on your hull. Yay! Remeber that old trick of launching 4 torps and having the mwd on so they all hit at once? Ever seen a cruiser go down that way cause I sure as hell have. It's so friggen pointless it aint funny. Nano's need to be altered. Not they should be, they NEED to be. Jvol, I want to see you try and take on a nano first solo and then with a group of people. I aint talking theoreticall I am talking in practise, a nanophoon comes to your home 0.0 system and kills a few people. I want to see YOU (Yes YOU) try and catch him in an inty. Then I want to see you and a small gang try and catch him. After that I want you to come back here and tell me how it is you managed to catch them. Oh wait.. You can't. Fit dual webs they say. Yes great idea, he warps away. Fit dual webs and a scrambler you moron. How do you catch him in time? Fit dual webs, scrambler, mwd and kill him you idiot. Watch him own the **** out of you with T2 heavies and Nos. Fit up a nanoBS yourself and kill him - That's the only one I don't have a come back for except these: 1) it's hypocritical 2) it's pointless as I wouldn't be lame enough to use it on anyone else 3) The likelyhood of actually killing the other nanobs would be 0 as they would be smart and run away If you come up with a counter that works Jvol, by all means: post it. Until then try to realise that a nanoBS will always win in a 1 vs 1 in anything. Even a 1 vs 2 and 3 and 4 and 5. Try it some time :)
Angelic Resolution Arcanum Defence Forces	Posted - 2007.02.04 15:42:00 - [3] If nanoBS would do 200 dps, would have no nos and only 2k armor and shield I doubt people would complain about them. Course they would as a fleet of them going 5k's would still be unbalanced and a pain in the arse to kill. Am all for a slug fest but not if your slug can't even track.
Angelic Resolution Arcanum Defence Forces	Posted - 2007.02.06 16:22:00 - [4] I just had an interesting idea to the rigs part of the equation. Make it so they CAN'T be used on a ship with MWD or AB. Don't give nano's an increased sig radius though, we need our blockade runners.
Angelic Resolution Arcanum Defence Forces	Posted - 2007.02.08 05:34:00 - [5] I find it amusing. People saying nanophoons and dominix's have no DPS. THEY. HAVE. DRONES. Idiots :P. 5 T2 ogres will own even a battleship in no time. Sure kill the drones.. smart and all but useless to most people as by the time you target them you're already into "screwed mode". To those saying, Ceptors, hugin and dictors. Ceptors get insta popped or light drones stuck on them. Hugin all on it's own will get raped. And dictors. Don't make me laugh. Put up with it, nano battleships are a side effect CCP never intended for and they will be nerfed. Time and patience. And to those wondering about Dev response.. notice how this thread is sticked? Means they're reading it and paying attention to what the majority of us want and what a minority want to exploit.
Angelic Resolution Arcanum Defence Forces	Posted - 2007.02.08 12:57:00 - [6] Tested it on SiSi during DT. Hugin pilot tries to get into position, nanophoon warps away giving the huginin a few torps for it's trouble. Second time: Nanophoon fits 5 ogres, hugin locks the nanophoon down and the hugin got owned by 4 torps, 4 nos and 5 ogres. So for once the nano's didn't do a damn thing (Phoon went to 75% structure or so). Third time: Nanophoon tried the MWD + torp trick, didn't work. Launch drones, got a little bit webbed but got out of webber range. Hugin got owned by ogres + torps. Thoughts?
Angelic Resolution Arcanum Defence Forces	Posted - 2007.02.09 14:42:00 - [7] Originally by: xHomicide Originally by: Angelic Resolution Tested it on SiSi during DT. Hugin pilot tries to get into position, nanophoon warps away giving the huginin a few torps for it's trouble. Second time: Nanophoon fits 5 ogres, hugin locks the nanophoon down and the hugin got owned by 4 torps, 4 nos and 5 ogres. So for once the nano's didn't do a damn thing (Phoon went to 75% structure or so). Third time: Nanophoon tried the MWD + torp trick, didn't work. Launch drones, got a little bit webbed but got out of webber range. Hugin got owned by ogres + torps. Thoughts? Web, and stay in web range....its not like the huginn cant move. nanoed huginn has no issue outrunning ogres and torps. Should take ZERO damage. Time the injector correctly before you mwd cycle.

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