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![Droidster Droidster](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1161122284/portrait?size=64)
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2016.01.12 02:34:24 -
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I notice that corps have the ability to set a "Friendly Fire" flag. Is that so that if they accidentally shoot a corp member in high sec, they don't get dokkened?
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![Mephiztopheleze Mephiztopheleze](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94858572/portrait?size=64)
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
415
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Posted - 2016.01.12 02:48:28 -
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Seriously, how long have you actually been playing this game?
The optional friendly fire tag was added very recently, before this it was default set to 'legal' and you couldn't change it. The thinking was that if corp-mates were shooting each other, that was a matter for the corp, not CONCORD.
The upshot was that anyone with the inclination could join a PvP averse hisec corp and go trigger happy blapping their corpmates in hisec without getting CONCORDukken.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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![Droidster Droidster](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1161122284/portrait?size=64)
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2016.01.12 03:03:02 -
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I am getting the idea that only two people use the EVE forums: me and this wierd, bald-headed newb who keeps giving sassy answers of dubious validity. |
![Valkin Mordirc Valkin Mordirc](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93744527/portrait?size=64)
Valkin Mordirc
1808
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Posted - 2016.01.12 03:08:40 -
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Droidster wrote:I am getting the idea that only two people use the EVE forums: me and this wierd, bald-headed newb who keeps giving sassy answers of dubious validity.
EVE-O Forums Sass levels are equivalent to E-peen levels
My Sass levels are off the charts
#DeleteTheWeak
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![Mephiztopheleze Mephiztopheleze](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94858572/portrait?size=64)
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
415
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Posted - 2016.01.12 03:11:09 -
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This bald headed newb has learned more about EVE gameplay and history in ~18 months than you have in 12 years.
I've genuinely tried to answer your questions and I've genuinely been baffled as to how someone could play a game for 12 years, yet be so ignorant of basic mechanics.
I'm now genuinely beginning to believe you're a troll. And not a very good one at that.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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![Knitram Relik Knitram Relik](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92989224/portrait?size=64)
Knitram Relik
Running With Railguns
8
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Posted - 2016.01.12 06:24:47 -
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Sometimes corp members will have sparring matches where the agree to only fight until one reaches hull or another predetermined amount. And some corps believe that Eve is still about PvP regardless of what the carebears cry about. Personally, my corp is friendly fire legal so I don't have to duel my web alt, I can just web and go. |
![Noragen Neirfallas Noragen Neirfallas](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93340906/portrait?size=64)
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
2561
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Posted - 2016.01.12 06:39:18 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Droidster wrote:I am getting the idea that only two people use the EVE forums: me and this wierd, bald-headed newb who keeps giving sassy answers of dubious validity. EVE-O Forums Sass levels are equivalent to E-peen levels My Sass levels are off the charts Some guys fly supers to make up for their short comings. I fly a Tristan
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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![Omar Alharazaad Omar Alharazaad](https://images.evetech.net/characters/778105871/portrait?size=64)
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2687
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Posted - 2016.01.12 06:48:52 -
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For high sec dwellers who frequently engage in activities most nefarious this is pretty handy. It's even more handy if you have a number of people who tend to have their safeties set to red, especially if you occasionally do fleet things. It's nice to be able to accidentally shoot that guy who you're remote cap boosting without CONCORD coming into play.
It's also handy as a training tool, we often have our newbros engage us to show them how certain things work. We can do this via duels, of course, but it's much easier to not have to click that thing and confirm.
Then there are those who keep it legal out of sheer stubbornness and to have the very real threat of 'if you go full retrad I'll pod you myself'. Plenty of reasons.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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![Ralph King-Griffin Ralph King-Griffin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92902496/portrait?size=64)
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13521
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Posted - 2016.01.12 11:33:24 -
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Droidster wrote:I am getting the idea that only two people use the EVE forums: me and this wierd, bald-headed newb who keeps giving sassy answers of dubious validity. Mephiztopheleze's "dubious" validity is actually your preconceived notions at play there, hes been on point (and fairly patient ill add) with most as what hes been telling you as far as i can tell.
Better the Devil you know.
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![Bumblefck Bumblefck](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1391276264/portrait?size=64)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10231
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Posted - 2016.01.12 20:04:51 -
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OP, can't you at least try and understand the game before posting meaningless twaddle? TYIA
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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![Droidster Droidster](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1161122284/portrait?size=64)
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
140
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Posted - 2016.01.12 20:43:24 -
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Bumblefck wrote:OP, can't you at least try and understand the game before posting meaningless twaddle? TYIA
From the person who "answered" a question on an unusual change in the prices of Fernite Carbide by helpfully explaining that it was because of "Demand and/or supply issues"
I may post bad wrong stupid ill-informed content, but at least I post content. |
![SurrenderMonkey SurrenderMonkey](https://images.evetech.net/characters/708523830/portrait?size=64)
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1503
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Posted - 2016.01.12 20:49:04 -
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Droidster wrote:
I may post bad wrong stupid ill-informed content
Finally, progress.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
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![Bumblefck Bumblefck](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1391276264/portrait?size=64)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10233
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Posted - 2016.01.12 20:51:26 -
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Droidster wrote:Bumblefck wrote:OP, can't you at least try and understand the game before posting meaningless twaddle? TYIA From the person who "answered" a question on an unusual change in the prices of Fernite Carbide by helpfully explaining that it was because of "Demand and/or supply issues" I may post bad wrong stupid ill-informed content, but at least I post content.
But I did answer, and, at the very core of it, my answer is correct.
Please don't confuse random words for content - they are not
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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![Bumblefck Bumblefck](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1391276264/portrait?size=64)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10234
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Posted - 2016.01.12 21:05:13 -
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Look:
=ƒÆ¬
I've created some content, fresh on your doorstep
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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![Droidster Droidster](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1161122284/portrait?size=64)
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
140
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Posted - 2016.01.12 21:35:34 -
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Thanks to Knitram Relik and Omar Alharazaad for answering my question. |
![FloppieTheBanjoClown FloppieTheBanjoClown](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1395805136/portrait?size=64)
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
3476
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Posted - 2016.01.13 12:14:12 -
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Droidster wrote:I am getting the idea that only two people use the EVE forums: me and this wierd, bald-headed newb who keeps giving sassy answers of dubious validity.
That bald-headed newb is spot-on in his answer.
For ten years or so, friendly fire was considered an in-corp matter. We made a sport of joining corporations who failed to do even the most basic research on applicants and killing them. Just look at Psychotic Monk's corp history and killboard to get an idea of how blatant most of us were. It got to a point that CCP answered the carebear cry and added the friendly fire toggle, removing the ability to insert saboteurs into a highsec corporation. The toggle exists because many corporations found FF to be useful and weren't terrible at Eve to begin with.
Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
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![Noragen Neirfallas Noragen Neirfallas](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93340906/portrait?size=64)
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
2564
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Posted - 2016.01.13 12:29:56 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Look:
=ƒÆ¬
I've created some content, fresh on your doorstep YOU CAN POST POOP??? Where has this been all my eve life
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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![Anya Klibor Anya Klibor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/301802921/portrait?size=64)
Anya Klibor
Addicted To Chaos Archetype.
795
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Posted - 2016.01.13 13:27:53 -
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Droidster wrote:I am getting the idea that only two people use the EVE forums: me and this wierd, bald-headed newb who keeps giving sassy answers of dubious validity.
Considering you didn't know how one of the oldest settings in the game worked, I think you are the noob, and the "sassy blad-headed noob" is actually far more intelligent than you are.
We're recruiting! :D
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![StonerPhReaK StonerPhReaK](https://images.evetech.net/characters/641935582/portrait?size=64)
StonerPhReaK
Best Kept Frozen. Bad Intention
346
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Posted - 2016.01.13 13:58:49 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:This bald headed newb has learned more about EVE gameplay and history in ~18 months than you have in 12 years.
I've genuinely tried to answer your questions and I've genuinely been baffled as to how someone could play a game for 12 years, yet be so ignorant of basic mechanics.
I'm now genuinely beginning to believe you're a troll. And not a very good one at that.
Mindless Mining. Thats how.
Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva
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![Omar Alharazaad Omar Alharazaad](https://images.evetech.net/characters/778105871/portrait?size=64)
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2694
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Posted - 2016.01.13 14:48:11 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:Droidster wrote:I am getting the idea that only two people use the EVE forums: me and this wierd, bald-headed newb who keeps giving sassy answers of dubious validity. Considering you didn't know how one of the oldest settings in the game worked, I think you are the noob, and the "sassy blad-headed noob" is actually far more intelligent than you are.
To be fair, friendly fire is only like two years old at most. There was a stink, it was great. The toggle was put in as a result of said stink instead of simply disabling it for all parties. Lingering harrumphs still exist about it being set to illegal as default, as this does nothing to encourage CEO's to be good, instead it just protects them from their own stupid decisions by default.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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![Lady Ayeipsia Lady Ayeipsia](https://images.evetech.net/characters/195764365/portrait?size=64)
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
998
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Posted - 2016.01.13 15:52:59 -
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Friendly fire is very necessary when trying to hold a 10k+ Frigate FFA. Plus, there are beneficial aspects such as webbing a freighter to help it warp faster. |
![Anya Klibor Anya Klibor](https://images.evetech.net/characters/301802921/portrait?size=64)
Anya Klibor
Addicted To Chaos Archetype.
795
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Posted - 2016.01.13 16:00:18 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:Droidster wrote:I am getting the idea that only two people use the EVE forums: me and this wierd, bald-headed newb who keeps giving sassy answers of dubious validity. Considering you didn't know how one of the oldest settings in the game worked, I think you are the noob, and the "sassy blad-headed noob" is actually far more intelligent than you are. To be fair, friendly fire is only like two years old at most. There was a stink, it was great. The toggle was put in as a result of said stink instead of simply disabling it for all parties. Lingering harrumphs still exist about it being set to illegal as default, as this does nothing to encourage CEO's to be good, instead it just protects them from their own stupid decisions by default.
I stopped playing around seven months ago, and came back two days ago. I can safely say that this setting was not there when I left. At all. You could kill anyone in your corp without reprisal from CONCORD.
We're recruiting! :D
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![FloppieTheBanjoClown FloppieTheBanjoClown](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1395805136/portrait?size=64)
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
3482
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Posted - 2016.01.13 16:03:14 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:[quote=Omar Alharazaad]I stopped playing around seven months ago, and came back two days ago. I can safely say that this setting was not there when I left. At all. You could kill anyone in your corp without reprisal from CONCORD.
Looks like they issued the change in February 2015. So seven months ago, it was definitely there. You just didn't notice when it was added.
Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
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![Bumblefck Bumblefck](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1391276264/portrait?size=64)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10251
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Posted - 2016.01.13 20:16:34 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Look:
=ƒÆ¬
I've created some content, fresh on your doorstep YOU CAN POST POOP??? Where has this been all my eve life
Can't remember the Unicode for it (had to Google it, ofc), but feel free to copy and use for great justice. It's even dual-purpose!
=ƒÆ¬ V
Have an ice-cream, sir
e: drat, doesn't quite 'come out' right, if you know what I mean ^^
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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![SurrenderMonkey SurrenderMonkey](https://images.evetech.net/characters/708523830/portrait?size=64)
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1519
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:01:19 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Look:
=ƒÆ¬
I've created some content, fresh on your doorstep YOU CAN POST POOP??? Where has this been all my eve life Can't remember the Unicode for it (had to Google it, ofc), but feel free to copy and use for great justice. It's even dual-purpose! =ƒÆ¬ V Have an ice-cream, sir e: drat, doesn't quite 'come out' right, if you know what I mean ^^
They make supplements for people who prefer soft-serve over scooped.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
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![Bumblefck Bumblefck](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1391276264/portrait?size=64)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10259
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:27:32 -
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To my (and my wife's, even more so) eternal shame, I once heard my father-in-law say that "If it doesn't rise above the waterline, I haven't finished my daily business"
*shudders*
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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![Tyyler DURden Tyyler DURden](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93605327/portrait?size=64)
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
176
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Posted - 2016.01.14 08:57:27 -
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One upside I've found for the friendly fire toggle switch. Using it as a recruitment aid. If any new recruits express concern that you have friendly fire set to legal, they probably aren't the sort you want in your corporation.
Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
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