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Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.13 00:33:37 -
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What the ****?
I leave for a month and....
What?
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works
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Posted - 2016.01.13 01:07:03 -
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Oh..... Well then. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.13 01:19:02 -
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Well true, you left Biohazard though and there actively was a civil war, not just high and mighty people passing their job along. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2016.01.13 01:39:46 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:
Yeah, I left before I had to shoot more Minmatar than I already did. I'm not about to shed the blood of former allies because of something *we* started. Just that one time with the POSes and no more. That's far enough for me.
Just thinking about that day we shot at the POSes still gives me a prickling sensation in my head.
Ya, can't say I blame ya. What a pointless war that was. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
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Posted - 2016.01.13 19:28:29 -
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Unless I'm mistaken didn't U'K at one time have some operations in Great Wildlands? What exactly is the problem with people learning the ins and outs of other forms of combat? Having gone on a few of Kalo's fleets, a lot of the people in the TLF were clueless about how to actually conduct themselves out there. I'm not saying ignoring everything daily is a good thing but how are people supposed to improve if they sit in their comfort zones all the time? You want progress yet you propose to hinder improvement by funneling them into the norms. Complacency kills. Personally I'd say forcing everyone to exclusively use Tormenters on mandatory Provi roams would be better for developing our up and coming warriors than having them grow too comfortable with whats around them. What military now a days doesn't train for things other than what is expected? |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:27:04 -
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Mizhara, do you value the beliefs and ideals of the guns on your ship? No right? They are tools of war. As such is those profiteers and other undesirables fighting beside you. Who cares about their belief? When were done (the "wargames" I mean) and well throw them out as such. By rights they'll probably throw themselves out and return to curse, ect. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:33:25 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Mizhara, do you value the beliefs and ideals of the guns on your ship? No right? They are tools of war. As such is those profiteers and other undesirables fighting beside you. Who cares about their belief? When were done (the "wargames" I mean) and well throw them out as such. By rights they'll probably throw themselves out and return to curse, ect. Respectfully speaking, I think if the end of the militia wars happened, you might regret these words. Without the proxy war to keep them busy, I dread to think what some of the extreme elements on both sides of the fence would get up to to occupy their time and guns.
Can't say I disagree with ya, though I've often seen the proxy wars as training for jus that.... |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:36:45 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Weapons need to be measured versus the targets. You don't use orbital bombardment to suppress minor riots and you don't fly with Sansha or Sani Sabik to take meaningless proxy war systems. Especially given the kind of atrocious example that would set for baseliner supporters.
I........ Can't really argue that. My apologies for questioning ya. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.13 21:54:20 -
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Kalaratiri wrote:Anslo wrote:Because we did more for the TLF outside of it than inside of it. Like what? What lasting good have you had on the TLF?
Is anything really lasting in the proxy war? Before the fall of huola 2 years ago alot of good was done (my corp at the time left the militia as it was kicking off). That's part of the reason I joined them initially. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.15 02:13:08 -
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Thought they were just doing the whole pirate thing now... |
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Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.17 13:50:58 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Well, it should come as no surprise there's "gloom and doom" when Val and her friends take fleets to fight GalMil alongside her Pyre allies. I just wish it was a surprise, really.
When they do that? Only thing I can think of was when they deployed to battle sansha in combined ops. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.17 14:53:43 -
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Oh, it was recently? I'll take a look. Thanks. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.17 15:11:12 -
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Oh, the combat on the 15th? Uh.... Ya that is.... Odd, to say the least. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.17 15:37:10 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Nothing odd about it. To no one's great surprise, her loyalties are exactly what they appear to be. I called it a long time ago and as usual these things tend to turn out to be right. I'm just disappointed that the rest of MinMil are going to pay the price as she's alienating allies and fighting for enemies.
Obviously I'm not trying to say this as an excuse or anything, but myself I have 6 friendly fire incidents on my record. When I was shot at I didn't exactly look at who was trying to kill my crew. That's the nature of war. The fact she put a combat wing into a situation that would facilitate it doesn't bode well but is it confirmed that was the intent? I know it does look rather bad, I'm not denying that... |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2016.01.17 15:57:50 -
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Oh..... |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
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Posted - 2016.01.18 14:38:00 -
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Maria Daphiti wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:Sani Sabik make great voices for the Minmatar people. Does Valentina know you blood and eat them on the side? Dunno! Does 'Of Questionable Repute' also know Funk AWOXes Minmatar militia members in Hek, as well as ganks recently graduated Pator Tech, Republic University, and Republic Military School students and young Sebiestor and Brutor Tribe members? Guess they are living up to their name!
When has the Gallante, caldari or Amarr millitias not had people who do the same thing? Not saying I support it but let's be honest it's not some unheard of thing in any militia. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.18 14:51:44 -
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U'K has had people do the same as well. They aren't traitors are they? Then again, they consist of a couple hundred pilots vs the what, 60? I don't think they can police their members as well as a smaller group. What im saying is the actions of one or two doesn't make the alliance traitorous but coupled with some other things its not looking good..... |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.18 15:18:53 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Maria Daphiti wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:Sani Sabik make great voices for the Minmatar people. Does Valentina know you blood and eat them on the side? Dunno! Does 'Of Questionable Repute' also know Funk AWOXes Minmatar militia members in Hek, as well as ganks recently graduated Pator Tech, Republic University, and Republic Military School students and young Sebiestor and Brutor Tribe members? Guess they are living up to their name! When has the Gallante, caldari or Amarr millitias not had people who do the same thing? Not saying I support it but let's be honest it's not some unheard of thing in any militia. We're not talking about having it in the militia. We're talking about having it in one's own alliance. Militia membership can't be regulated, but corporate and alliance membership can.
True. |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
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Posted - 2016.01.18 16:40:27 -
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Right, so a month old alliance has an easier time picking and choosing corporations under them because they are small as opposed to a well established alliance which is bigger and attracts groups more easily to join? It's hard to promote a sense of morals if you don't have a group to promote it to. Such micromanagement falls on the corporations I would think with the alliance's leadership enforcing it. I fully agree with you on the fact that people can just corporation hop to continue being in the militia is disgusting. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.18 20:43:09 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:I've had to fly solo in the defense of Roushzar. I am rather surprised and disappointed by the sheer amount of AmarrMil that will let a single Typhoon sit untouched for multiple large plexes in a row. I've barely gotten the paint scratched on it the last few days.
Fear of cynos.... |
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Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.18 20:47:44 -
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Durr..... My bad. I'm starting to get forgetful..... Don't mind me.... |
Deitra Vess
Scope Works
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Posted - 2016.01.19 01:06:01 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
I placed myself at my clan's mercy and it was not particularly merciful. I will carry my marks of shame for all of New Eden to see, right on my very face, until I have earned the right to claim I have repaid my debts and undone the harm I did to my clan and people through my actions and failure.
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Should you prove in action that you take responsibility for your history and actions, I certainly would. So far though, your own alliance leaders and members have spoken quite eloquently to further the point that "they don't care."
Rather than having an Amarrian style ****ing match lets just end this here. Quite obviously the issues are well and known. If they wish to right their past wrongs lets let them prove their merit by action, just as you have with your clan. Maybe their leadership doesn't care but why not let those who wish to do well do so instead of stonewalling them into oblivion. |
Deitra Vess
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:17:56 -
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Havohej wrote:What's this about Blooders contracted to the TLF and awoxing MinMil pilots? Am I reading that correctly?
Appears that way, ya... |
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