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Br0wn 0ps
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Posted - 2007.01.23 20:53:00 -
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Since it would seem that a lot of people are doing this anyway, with max cargo fitted ships and Giant Secure Cans, and cargo rigs, etc., why not allow the Ship Maintenance Bay on carriers to be used for non-ship items, or allow the use of a specialized freight container? I mean you still have to sacrifice ship storage to use it, so it has the same disadvantage built in, but would make the game less tedious. With the right selection of ships and cargo cannisters, you can get about 1m3 capacity per 5m3 volume
Suggestion
TypeName: Maintenance Bay Storage Container
Volume: 100,000m3
Capacity: 20,000m3
That would give standard carriers a Maintenance Bay Storage capacity of 100,000m3 total, with no ship transportation possible...but would only require use of 5 containers, instead of like 30 (several levels deep).
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Riley Craven
Caldari
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.23 21:49:00 -
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No.
Some cruisers are 80 something k when unpacked and like 5-10k packed. This would allow people to abuse this system and carry more ships than they should.
Some rules are made for a reason.
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Br0wn 0ps
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Posted - 2007.01.24 20:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Riley Craven
No.
Some cruisers are 80 something k when unpacked and like 5-10k packed. This would allow people to abuse this system and carry more ships than they should.
Some rules are made for a reason.
Simple solution is that you cannot put ships into a container. I don't think you can even put ships into Station Container, iirc, so that shouldn't be a reason to stop this.
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Riley Craven
Caldari
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.24 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Br0wn 0ps
Originally by: Riley Craven
No.
Some cruisers are 80 something k when unpacked and like 5-10k packed. This would allow people to abuse this system and carry more ships than they should.
Some rules are made for a reason.
Simple solution is that you cannot put ships into a container. I don't think you can even put ships into Station Container, iirc, so that shouldn't be a reason to stop this.
As it stands you can put Repacked ships into cans... I do it on a dialy basis.
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Reggie Stoneloader
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.24 21:19:00 -
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I can't carry frigates in GSCs in my Badger. I see no reason not to carry this over to the carrier freight container.
At the same time, there's no real way to ensure that people won't cheat on the carrier's capacity anyway. They do it now, and there's no real way to kill the abuse without killing the core utility of the ship.
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Ron Simon
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.24 22:17:00 -
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All I have to say is carriers are not and never were intended to be freighters with jump drives.
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Br0wn 0ps
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Posted - 2007.01.24 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: Br0wn 0ps
Originally by: Riley Craven
No.
Some cruisers are 80 something k when unpacked and like 5-10k packed. This would allow people to abuse this system and carry more ships than they should.
Some rules are made for a reason.
Simple solution is that you cannot put ships into a container. I don't think you can even put ships into Station Container, iirc, so that shouldn't be a reason to stop this.
As it stands you can put Repacked ships into cans... I do it on a dialy basis.
You're right, I didn't remember this correctly. Still, the ships wouldn't be available for use in space, which is where the real advantage of having them assembled is, plus, if you repackage a ship with a rig, the rig is destroyed...
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Br0wn 0ps
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Posted - 2007.01.24 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ron Simon
All I have to say is carriers are not and never were intended to be freighters with jump drives.
What do you think they are now?  Players use things in EVE every day that the Devs didn't think of. Does that make the players exploiters, or does it just mean that they are using their brains? A lot of the game has changed since I started this game over 3 years ago, and I would have to say that a fair bit of it is due to the way players found uses for things that the Devs never initially intended. Some of it has been beneficial to game play, some of it detrimental. Freighters with jump drives, they aren't. But vessels capable of hauling large abounts via jump drive, they are.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.25 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ron Simon
All I have to say is carriers are not and never were intended to be freighters with jump drives.
But they ARE often used as freighters with jumpdrives. Is this a bad thing? Isn't it just the sort of out-the-box thinking that makes EVE so great?
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Riley Craven
Caldari
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:55:00 -
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First off carriers have no where near the carrying capabilities of freighters, no matter how much you abuse the system. This is a stupid arguement to make. Your talking about something in orders of magnitudes greater that its ridiculus. Its the difference between a puppy dog and an elephant.
Second, I just put a shuttle in a GSC, so if you cant put a frigate in, chances you are doing something wrong.
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