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phukke
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:50:00 -
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Last night i was ratting in .4 area. I hade one eye on the local chanel to see if there was any bad guys entering the system. I saw 3 ppl in the area all > 1.0 sec status... I was almost done, just two more ratts to kill, Then BAM! Gang of 3 warps in, jamed, jamed and jamed. I couldent run away. and i could not lock any of my hunters. Since I am a n00b I wonder what can i do to prevent this in the future.
I used a warcore stb. I guess they used more then one warpjammer? what did they use to prevent me from locking them? and what do I need to get to make this not happening to me again? what do i need to buy/train?
Now help a noob =)
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PCaBoo
Newbies On Xstacy
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:52:00 -
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 Originally by: phukke
Last night i was ratting in .4 area. I hade one eye on the local chanel to see if there was any bad guys entering the system. I saw 3 ppl in the area all > 1.0 sec status... I was almost done, just two more ratts to kill, Then BAM! Gang of 3 warps in, jamed, jamed and jamed. I couldent run away. and i could not lock any of my hunters. Since I am a n00b I wonder what can i do to prevent this in the future.
I used a warcore stb. I guess they used more then one warpjammer? what did they use to prevent me from locking them? and what do I need to get to make this not happening to me again? what do i need to buy/train?
Now help a noob =)
don't fly in low-sec, get a corp, ditch the stabs.
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Baron Oxes
Hypermagic Mountain
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Posted - 2007.01.24 10:28:00 -
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Don't rely on people's security status, it's not a good indicator of their intentions - and if they're all in the same corp. then there's a chance they're on the prowl for lonely ratters such as yourself :)
Get yourself aligned and then you can warp off to a safespot or a station and see if they're just passing through, and ditch the warp core stabiliser - it's not going to help you, it doubles your locking time and it halves your locking range (IIRC).
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.24 10:33:00 -
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Don't trust sec status firstly.
Also if you have ppl in local look for signs that they might be hunting you. check their corp name, corps like 'national mining corporation' usually don't get my heart racing too much about fighting them.
Also set ur scanner to 360 max range and see what ships they're in. if u get haulers on scanner then continue ratting, if u get pvp capable ships on scanner then align to station or something by double clicking towards it, then if they do turn up u can warp instantly to it. left click the station also so that u can simply clicik warp to at the top right of ur screen instead of having to find, right click, select warp. takes too much time.
any decent pirates tho will get ya even if u have a stab. those modules are really not that useful and make ur ratting annoying cos u take ages to lock
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Drygon WindRynner
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Posted - 2007.01.25 07:50:00 -
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Yeah thats right, don't use those stablizers. In fact don't equip anything cause that will just slow you down and waste CPU and powergrid space. Your best bet is to idle in a belt and give lots of money to the pirates. |
Rachel Vend
Gallente
Zend Insurance
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Posted - 2007.01.25 08:05:00 -
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Don't fly in low sec. As much as the pirates want to repopulate lowsec, it's really just they want to repopulate low sec so they get more easy ganks.
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.01.25 08:16:00 -
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Pfft at the don't fly in low sec. In fact, the only time I've been killed in low sec is when I've been LOOKING for fights :D
Watch local, don't equip a stab. With insta-dock now, if it feels dicey just dock.
They might have been dampening you, but it was probably just the stab.
Use your map and pick a smart system.
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Jalec Creed
Gallente
Pod Munchers
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Posted - 2007.01.25 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rachel Vend
Don't fly in low sec. As much as the pirates want to repopulate lowsec, it's really just they want to repopulate low sec so they get more easy ganks.
Blah. Oh, and blah some more.
Low sec¦s danger level is overrated.
Those that wish to stay safe can easily protect themselves with the warp to 0 addition.
Low sec is actually more profitable for ratting than high sec for those enjoying that activity.
EVE starts to become real fun with added tension in low sec to 0.0.
If YOU dont want to fly your precious Brutix or whatever into relatively unsafe area¦s so be it, but please, dont keep other players from doing their thing where ever they wish.
Sure, us pirates want to see more fodder in low sec, but those that get killed usually are pirates themselves or careless players.
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Blonde Prince
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Posted - 2007.01.25 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jalec Creed
Blah. Oh, and blah some more.
Low sec¦s danger level is overrated.
Those that wish to stay safe can easily protect themselves with the warp to 0 addition.
Low sec is actually more profitable for ratting than high sec for those enjoying that activity.
EVE starts to become real fun with added tension in low sec to 0.0.
If YOU dont want to fly your precious Brutix or whatever into relatively unsafe area¦s so be it, but please, dont keep other players from doing their thing where ever they wish.
Sure, us pirates want to see more fodder in low sec, but those that get killed usually are pirates themselves or careless players.
Trust the guy from a corp called "Pod Munchers" he seems pretty legit.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.01.25 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rachel Vend
Don't fly in low sec. As much as the pirates want to repopulate lowsec, it's really just they want to repopulate low sec so they get more easy ganks.
/me puts on tinfoil hat
It's all a big conspiracy !
/me takes off tinfoil hat
Like it was said, ratting is much better in low-sec and so is mining, just because some do get killed down there doesn't mean you should stay like a sheep in high-sec fearing the possibility of death like a mad-man.
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Jadiin
Mindstar Technology
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.25 12:44:00 -
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Sec rating means nothing. Never ever ever ever ever base your opinion on a pilot because of a positive sec rating.
Secondly. Local. Keep tabs on who enters a system. You see more than one person belonging to the same corp then you've a high chance their looking for kills. Don't go ratting in a system full of ppl cos the odds go up that one of them is a hunter.
Thirdly overview. When you're in a belt align to station and keep moving away from the spot where a pilot will warp in to zero then zoom out so you don't get wrapped up in the ratting and you see when a ship warps in. This gives you valuable time to make a get away.
Fourthly your scanner. If you have never pvpped then this won't really help you specially if you're set up for ratting but if you know what you're doing the scanner lets you know what ships are about and from there you know if you can take them or not.
Finally. Be insured. All of the above helps but yur gonna get caught anyway sooner or later. I almost got my eagle popped last night by a nano domi whilst I was doing some careless ratting but he orbitted outside of 20km and I made a getaway after much spamming of the warp button :)
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Mephistophilis
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.25 14:01:00 -
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Why not get to know the locals, start a channel for those of you wanting to keep the system safe. you can share info, help eachother out and meet some decent folk on the way. Or join a low sec corp.... Low sec really isn't as bad as people make it out to be and you can earn much more there! I dont understand all the carebares staying in jita all huddled together spamming missions, how dull  Good on you for getting out there, keep it up 
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Jalec Creed
Gallente
Pod Munchers
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Posted - 2007.01.25 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Blonde Prince
Trust the guy from a corp called "Pod Munchers" he seems pretty legit.
I am right.
Warp to 0 hasn't only reduced my pod munch-rate by a fair amount, it should help those "dare devil" carebears and/or fresh explorers a lot when entering low sec their first time.
Listen to the posters here: check local, scan frequently and more importantly - make a customized overview to show only ships and belts.
That last bit of advice is all you'll get out of me.
Oh and btw: I'me always willing to show you around low-sec happily and for free  
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Portios Smith
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.25 19:48:00 -
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1. No one in local is to be trusted unless you know them well.
2. In low sec is better to rat in a well fitted frigate; cheap, easy to escape, gets the job done.
3. When you go to a belt try to engage the rat away from where you came out of warp so people dont land on top of you.
4. Start warp as soon as a PC ship appears on overview.
5. Learn to PVP, join a pirate or PVP corp and have fun, loosing a frig is not a big deal and you learn lots from every engagement.
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Fanaria
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Posted - 2007.01.25 20:40:00 -
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To everyone who says lowsec is dangerous- anyone who knows what they are doing can easily live day in and day out in lowsec. Having lived there nearly my entire eve life, i haven't been scrambled by a hostile of any sort that i didn't initiate in lowsec in months. Just by watching local and not being an imbecile, ( 99% of traps are incredibly easy to see and avoid, or just take the bait knowingly) one can easily avoid situations they do not enjoy.
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2007.01.25 21:03:00 -
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A few ways.
1. Fight the rats at a belt from a weird location, dont just warp to 0 or one of the increments and fight them there. Fly far off below the warp in plain while your fighting the rats, shoot at them and makem follow you. DO this and you'll have plenty of time to warp off before people can get into range.
2. Dont stay in and one spot for more than about a minute, any good player will have to scanned down in under a minute and probably be on top of you cloaked in a cov ops ready to warp his gang on top of you.
3. Use long range weaponry and stay flying at 75% or greater max speed towards a station, in the event that a gang warps to your location you will warp to the station immediatly after you hit the warp button since your already alligned and flying at the necessary speed.
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Nash Leigth
Children of Azathoth
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.01.25 23:14:00 -
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Nothing you can do to completely prevent these incidents. They will happen and sometimes completely by accident. The game allows for it, so try not to feel too badly if you lose a ship.
Wearing one warp corp stab does not help if you get intercepted by a gang. Yes, they will probably put more than just 1 point on you. Even a lone player might put put 2-3 poitns on you, so either you wear no stabs or you wear 3-4 to make certain that in majority of cases you will escape. However, stabs have been nerfed and wearing multiple stabs will effectively gimp your setup. So my advice would be to not wear any stabs. If you get caught, try to fight back - it is much more fun and you may actually win the fight.
Do not trust any players in low sec. A player with negative sec status can very definitely attack you. A player with high security status is simply less likely to attack. Pay attention to what their bio says, what corps they have been in, generally what their profile looks like. If you rat in same systems, you will eventually meet the locals that frequent them and learn who is dangerous and who you are safe with.
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Gamble Dakota
Immortalis Silens
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.26 03:12:00 -
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Risk/Reward is Eve. Get used to it.
But honestly, if you're even mildly competent the odds of you getting killed in low-sec these days is quite low.
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Originally by: "Nir"
There is no place for morality in EVE.
I find the correct answer is rarely the truthful one.
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr
Pirates of Destruction Union
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Posted - 2007.01.26 04:01:00 -
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Warpcore stabs are more trouble than they're worth. They screw your locking abilities and take a slot for a much more useful item, like a speed mod, tanking mod, or damage mod.
Never trust anyone you don't know, especially gangs of them. Local is your friend, the scanner is your friend, and warp to zero is your friend.
If you ever suspect you're being hunted, but don't want to dock right away, warp to a belt or a celestial object (not a moon, POS's hurt!) at 100km and wait. If they warp to the object you're at, that means they're hunting you; ergo, dock up. Barring that, when in doubt, dock like a frightened school girl.
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Hey hey let's go kenka suru!
Taisetsuna mono protect my balls!
Boku ga warui so lets fighting!
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Damon Hune
Minmatar
Black Tooth Grin
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Posted - 2007.01.26 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gamble Dakota
Risk/Reward is Eve. Get used to it.
But honestly, if you're even mildly competent the odds of you getting killed in low-sec these days is quite low.
That is true,
As mentioned a dozen times, never trust sec status... its not like pirates are all flashing red and yellow. There are plenty of high sec gankbears and pvpers looking for a kill to.
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Rikkard Strofeldt
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.26 09:21:00 -
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Low sec is very easy to survive. As the others have said, don't trust sec status.
For sec status:
- below -5.0 means that the pilot is looking for you now. Dock instantly
- between -5.0 and 0.0 means that the pilot is either a pirate, or an anti-pirate. In either case, dock now.
- above 0.0, keep your eye out, and get ready to dock. I think the higher the sec rating, the more chance there is that they will kill you. Its either their territory, or their sec is so high that the hit won't affect them.
Also, as others have mentioned, don't use stabs. Replace your stabs with tanking modules. Damage Control is ftw. Put a MWD in your mids, as well as some EW.
Also be very careful of the high-sec to low-sec jump. They get camped reasonably often. The Ossugur gate in Amamake is the most famous example of this.
Trust the advice of pirates in this. We know how to get around lowsec, after all, we do it all the time. We also know the tactics our quarry use to evade us.
<sarcasm>
So, come to low sec, bring friends, and make sure your ship is fully Tech 2 or faction fitted
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Rutefly
Amarr
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.26 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Rutefly on 26/01/2007 10:56:31
Im anything but a pirate. Not an ounch of evil in me.
When i hunt in low sec i hunt for days in the same systems.
Only time i loose ships to pierats are when i fall asleep over my keyboard after too much EvE (Yes there is such a thing as too much EvE), and wake up to the sound "zoink zoink" as someone targets my pod.
They tell me they have been there hanging around for minutes b4 targetting me, and we laugh  .
And all i got to show for it is an inverted qwerty mark on my face from the nap  .
Depending on how much cutting the edge ratting you do, there should be room for a little pvp setup on your rat ship. Shame that 80% of the pierats only attack if they outgun you greatly. Theres been a few entertaining exceptions luckily (Not all pirates are lame).
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Jalec Creed
Gallente
Pod Munchers
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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gamble Dakota
But honestly, if you're even mildly competent the odds of you getting killed in low-sec these days is quite low.
That comment makes me like you a lot
Yes people! enter low sec!
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Samirol
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.29 18:30:00 -
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If it's not blue, its after you.
(good rule for low sec/0.0)
Contact mach'ett3 for all your sig needs
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