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Roy Gordon Caldari The Star Wolves	Posted - 2007.01.25 13:54:00 - [1] * The comms screen flickers on as a pre-recorded message is played* Ladies, Gentleman and my fellow citizens. Are you sitting comfortably? Good. Then, let me begin. As many of us are aware, the portion of the Galaxy we live in is riven by upheavals of many kinds. The unscrupulous prey upon the innocent, the strong persecute the weak and those who should know better stand aside and watch it happen. Well, this has to end. For too long many of us have debated the actions of those who are intent on destroying the Galactic order, debates which are, quite frankly, getting us nowhere. Now is the time for action! The forces of oppression are slowly but surely swallowing up the smaller corporations, assimilating or destroying them. And what do we do? Do we put our differences aside and unite against the common foe? NO! We instead bicker amongst ourselves providing the enemy with easy targets, too weak to defend themselves without the support of others. The time has come for us to work together, to forget we are Caldari, Gallente, Amarr or Minmatar, and to formulate a plan of action to enable us to throw back those who have caused so many problems for us pod pilots. To this end I make this appeal- Let us form a ‘Grand Alliance’, one where the goal will be the preservation of all we hold dear and which others have sworn to tear asunder. To this end I am prepared to extend the hand of friendship and co-operation to any who will join such an alliance be they Gallente, Amarr, Minmatar or others who feel themselves threatened. So what say you? Are you prepared to stand firm and shoulder to shoulder against the advances of those who wish to destroy everything we hold dear? Or do you wish to just maintain status quo and watch as you become the next target of opportunity? If you think as I do, then I would ask you to contact me via the normal channels. I thank you for your time. The recording ends and the screen goes blank That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The Universe is ruled by three basic principles- Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest!
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.25 13:56:00 - [2] Bravo! When the time comes for nationalists of all persuasions to stand shoulder to shoulder against the aspirant post-humans we'll know we're fully making an impression. Star Fraction is recruiting
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.25 14:07:00 - [3] Originally by: Roy Gordon The time has come for us to work together, to forget we are Caldari, Gallente, Amarr or Minmatar, and to formulate a plan of action to enable us to throw back those who have caused so many problems for us pod pilots. To this end I make this appeal- Let us form a æGrand AllianceÆ And work with the Amarr?? Are you OUT OF YOUR MIND?! That's just GROSS!! Seriously. Ewww. I need a bloodbath. www.eve-online.com/evetv
Agustus Caesar Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.25 16:43:00 - [4] Unfortunately such a coalition is a practical impossibilty. The rifts between the Minmatar and Amarrian blocs are just too deep to be banded together by much of anything. However such an coalition may not even be necessary. The Gallante/Caldari nationalist forces are shadows of their former selves, but if they keep a low enough profile they should be able to rebuild un-harrassed, also they could join a Minmatar or Amarrian alliance for security. As for the saftey of the Minmatar or Amarrian alliances, they have shown themselves to have very close working relationships (amongst their own blocs that is) therefore if Star Fraction (I assume thats who your speaking of) declared war on one of these alliances, they would very quickly find themselves set upon by the victim's allies, and no offense, but these alliances wouldn't come close to be the pushovers that the caldari/gallante nationalists were. That being said I'm sure Star Fraction has realized this as well, and not wanting to subject themselves to a conflict they could (and probably would) loose they will probably continue inflicting their anarchist beliefs upon whoever they think they can bully around and get away with it. Therefore the Cladari/Gallante nationalist remnants are left with 2 choices, join up with a Minmatar/Amarrian alliance; or go underground while you rebuild, get better organized, and surface when your ready to fight again for your right to exist as a independant entity. -Caesar ----------------------------- Unless otherwise stated my opinions don't represent that of my corporation and/or alliance, but unless your retarded, that should go without saying
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.25 17:07:00 - [5] Originally by: Agustus Caesar That being said I'm sure Star Fraction has realized this as well, and not wanting to subject themselves to a conflict they could (and probably would) loose they will probably continue inflicting their anarchist beliefs upon whoever they think they can bully around and get away with it. Nonsense. We have challenged factional blocs with more pilots and greater potential for resources than we have at every step and escalated in the most recent war. If a 'grand alliance' comes to be arrayed against us we will meet it in battle without complaint. Even if such an alliance does not come into being, we are hopeful that we will challenge someone, sometime, who will likewise uncomplainingly get on with fighting for what they believe in. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Recruitment
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2007.01.25 17:16:00 - [6] this is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Are you saying you want the paramilitaries to just forget their own loyalties, their honor? you want PIE to join with Electus Matari to kill your enemy and just forget their conflict? You want Intaki Union to join CYI, for CAIN to join Pheonix Wing, for Apex to join with actual pro-caldari forces, for CVA and Ushra'khan to band together? why, because you are to weak to enforce your designs? disgusting. Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
IzzyChan Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.25 17:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien And work with the Amarr?? Are you OUT OF YOUR MIND?! That's just GROSS!! Seriously. Hehehe, wrinkly old guys. --------------------
Shintoko Akahoshi Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.25 18:15:00 - [8] Originally by: IzzyChan Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien And work with the Amarr?? Are you OUT OF YOUR MIND?! That's just GROSS!! Seriously. Hehehe, wrinkly old guys. They give me hives... Seriously, though, Roy. That's a great idea! Count me in! Okay, so step one: deciding what it is that we all hold dear. Okay. For me, that would be drugs; alcohol; proscribed biotech research; mindclash; good food; microgravity on stations; and my slaver hound "Arf". We all set to defend that? Omerta Syndicate Biotechnical Research
Darina Rea Harvest System	Posted - 2007.01.25 18:18:00 - [9] The Nation welcomes all. _________ Time is on our side.
Vendrin Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.01.25 20:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss this is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Are you saying you want the paramilitaries to just forget their own loyalties, their honor? you want PIE to join with Electus Matari to kill your enemy and just forget their conflict? You want Intaki Union to join CYI, for CAIN to join Pheonix Wing, for Apex to join with actual pro-caldari forces, for CVA and Ushra'khan to band together? why, because you are to weak to enforce your designs? disgusting. It's called joining together to fight a greater enemy, but I wouldn't expect you to understand any plan that is more complex then locking on a target and shooting it. As for your little comment about my corporation, when you have actually done something for the State, then perhaps you can speak. But serving the State usually does require a little more intelligence then you seem capable of having, so I doubt you ever will. Still Mr. Gordon's antics are as amusing as ever, though I find his call for a coalition hypocritical, as I do not recall him or his corporation giving any aid, economic or military when the Directive was under attack. _____________________________________ APEX Unlimited is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Irias Salo Caldari The Star Wolves	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Vendrin Still Mr. Gordon's antics are as amusing as ever, though I find his call for a coalition hypocritical, as I do not recall him or his corporation giving any aid, economic or military when the Directive was under attack. For the last bloody time Vendrin, TSW did not have either the economic or military might to engage in a war at the time KD was under attack. In fact this was the total isk sum at the time: My personal wallet: 10mill Corporate wallet: 5mill 15mill total, not even enough to declare war. TSW was under construction then and it would have been foolish to go to war without private communications nor a source of income to continue the war. Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
Vendrin Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:08:00 - [12] There are other ways to help besides fighting and giving isk. You did nothing except speak from the sidelines as your subordinate does now. _____________________________________ APEX Unlimited is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Roy Gordon Caldari The Star Wolves	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:12:00 - [13] switches open live feed Well, as I suspected, the minnows prefer to get eaten by the sharks instead of fighting back against them. What was the old motto? Oh yes, that was it 'Self preservation makes strange bedfellows' And just because no visible aid was forthcoming, aid of a more...'select' nature was provided by myself and others whilst the Directive was engaged in its conflict. But, that is by the by now. It is the now and the future which counts. One in which we either rise together or fall in our usual divided ways. Which is it you prefer? That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The Universe is ruled by three basic principles- Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest!
Irias Salo Caldari The Star Wolves	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:13:00 - [14] Edited by: Irias Salo on 25/01/2007 21:10:15 I don't really give a damn what you think Vendrin, the construction of TSW was my priority then as it is now. Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
Vendrin Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.01.25 21:41:00 - [15] Which I have no problem with, just don't let your subordinate start making claims about wars and destruction when he has not been in them. _____________________________________ APEX Unlimited is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Shintoko Akahoshi Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.25 23:32:00 - [16] The problem, Roy, isn't that people aren't willing to band together to fight a common foe, or to preserve something that they hold dear. The problem is that your idea of what to fight for isn't necessarily the same as my idea of what to fight for. You don't really specify, so we're left to guess. I can only imagine that what Archbishop holds dear isn't what Hakera holds dear... Omerta Syndicate Biotechnical Research
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2007.01.26 03:40:00 - [17] Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 26/01/2007 03:36:40 no the problem is there is no common foe. Roy, and everyone else that thinks, "oh we serve an empire so lets band together and attack target X" are so beyond understanding of your own faction is sickens me. The Empire will never allow upstart Godless rebel matari to dictate targets to them. The Republic will never bow to the demands of those that enslave their people. The Caldari will never support the vile Federation that bombarded their homeworld to death rather than let them actually be free. The stinking Federation will never do anything other than rot on its own fat back-side. anyone who thinks their faction out to just embrace the other with open arms is a traitor to the very cause of the suposed faction they support. or did i miss the memo where the Emperor said "Oh the matari? sure they can have their stolen land and lets help them now against their enemies. Roy said to do it and he is a do ntohing forum swine so why not?" Pathetic. Star Wolves should fight their own battles. Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.26 04:17:00 - [18] Edited by: Nomakai Delateriel on 26/01/2007 04:18:41 Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 26/01/2007 03:36:40 no the problem is there is no common foe. Roy, and everyone else that thinks, "oh we serve an empire so lets band together and attack target X" are so beyond understanding of your own faction is sickens me. The Empire will never allow upstart Godless rebel matari to dictate targets to them. The Republic will never bow to the demands of those that enslave their people. The Caldari will never support the vile Federation that bombarded their homeworld to death rather than let them actually be free. The stinking Federation will never do anything other than rot on its own fat back-side. anyone who thinks their faction out to just embrace the other with open arms is a traitor to the very cause of the suposed faction they support. or did i miss the memo where the Emperor said "Oh the matari? sure they can have their stolen land and lets help them now against their enemies. Roy said to do it and he is a do ntohing forum swine so why not?" Pathetic. Star Wolves should fight their own battles. It always depends. If I'm not mistaken the CVA came up to UNITY to blow some Pirate Coalition vessels "out of the water" so to speak during the UNITY siege. It's not about kow-towing to the other side (none will do that), but most of the less fundamentalist corps and alliances on every side however know that even the devils on the other side are far more enlightened than some savages that live "outside". The ones that roam syndicate, curse and other foul regions of this galaxy. That selection of scum includes the SF, a poorly disguised band of sociopaths who desire to be the predators in a galaxy where the Nigh**chers (as in "the nigh**cher state", a philosophical entity and not an actual state or alliance) are but a memory of the past. But the SF is not the Pirate Coalition. They're a roughly 70-ish man band of sociopaths, who while they are decent combat pilots they, at the moment, neither have the manpower nor the wit to pose a threat to anything but decrepit organisations who have long ago lost either the will to fight or grown too self-complacent to learn. Eventually the Caldari and Gallente will again gain the will to fight and lose the self-complacency and begin to learn. So in short, the SF is a nothing. This is my last communication on this subject until the time comes to erase them, or to gloat when someone else does the erasing. In the future, if they come across my path I'll treat them like any other rabid animal. Avoid them if they're too powerful, or shoot them if I can. Because talking to a rabid animal is a waste of time, and I've wasted enough time. ______________________________________________ -The more it changes, the more it stays the same. Mankind and all its activities. War and Peace, Love and Hate. Ever changing, ever the same.
Silas Vitalia Royal Knights of Khanid Order of the Khanid Crown	Posted - 2007.01.26 05:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 26/01/2007 03:36:40 The Empire will never allow upstart Godless rebel matari to dictate targets to them. The Republic will never bow to the demands of those that enslave their people. The Caldari will never support the vile Federation that bombarded their homeworld to death rather than let them actually be free. The stinking Federation will never do anything other than rot on its own fat back-side. Such naysayers! Let us not forget the spirit of cooperation between some empires! The Gallente did love to sell weapons to the Minnies for them to be used against us, let's not forget that wonderful partnership. Also, don't forget we in the Khanid Kingdom have enjoyed many fruitful years of strong economic ties with the Caldari State; many Caldari citizens live and work amongst us, and relations continue to improve. I suppose my point is that each of us has a reasonable chance of finding at least one ally amongst the other races at a nation-state level... Embracing another faction does not then, necessarily constitute being a traitor. Only in most cases :)
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Tsurokigaarai	Posted - 2007.01.26 05:35:00 - [20] You certainly aimed high Roy. CONCORD currently would be what your looking for as it is the organization that lies the most along the lines of your proposal. Even so, CONCORD barely gets the empires to agree with each other on the most minor of issues. We, as human beings are want to do, have done some very awful things to each other and those scars are not going to go away anytime soon. At least we have a relatively free market.... ----- results may vary
Nooey Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.26 08:33:00 - [21] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss The Caldari will never support the vile Federation that bombarded their homeworld to death rather than let them actually be free. If you think the Caldari people are defined by this, and this alone, then you need to open your mind Tomahawk. This appears, given the context of the speaker, to be a case of someone seeing only what they want to see. I'd like to be wrong about that, however.
Roy Gordon Caldari The Star Wolves	Posted - 2007.01.26 13:39:00 - [22] * The comms screen blinks into life. A man sits behind a desk, slightly leaning forward with his elbows on the desktop, gently tapping his fingers together before speaking * ‘High ideals require high aims’ Yes, it is true, the formation of a ‘Grand Alliance’ is a lofty ideal. But, it is one that I will still intend pursuing, despite the many obstacles which are placed in my way. People have asked ‘what would those in the ‘Grand Alliance’ fight for? Who would it fight?’ Well, let me tell you about the ‘Poquito fish’. This tiny little fish, which grows to no more than an inch in size, would appear to be one of natures most inoffensive creatures. Yet, it has no known predators. Why? Well, the Poquito lives normally in a small school of about 20 fish. When threatened it sends out a chemical which attracts other Poquito’s. The chemical travels so fast that within minutes thousands upon thousands of other Poquito’s arrive on the scene. As one the Poquito’s ‘mob’ the intruder, nipping at its eyes, limbs, any exposed areas. Even those who are eaten bite the inside of the intruders mouth, throat and stomach as they are consumed. Predators have learnt to avoid these little fish, and as a consequence the sections of the river they swim in are totally safe. So, what lesson’s do the Poquito fish give us? It is this, although we may be small and weak as individuals, when grouped with others we can not only fight back, but we can win and make where we live safer as a result. Let us be perfectly blunt here, I don’t expect those who enter into the ‘Grand Alliance’ to have any other reason for doing so other than for mutual security and/or self-preservation. That, to me, is a totally understandable, and probably a more honest, reason than declaring you are ‘standing up for the rights of my race/culture/religion’. And as to the question of who would we be combating? Well, all I can say is this, we will provide a united front to those who pose the greatest threat to our existence. Whatever those threat's maybe. And, consider this interesting point if you will- Those in the ‘Grand Alliance’ will be working together, and those working together are not fighting each other. If you all have a common cause and aim you are less likely to fight those who share those very causes and aims. And, who knows, we may actually get to know each other and perhaps, just perhaps, we may start to learn to understand each of one of us, our ways and why we are. The benefits are there for all to see and share, if only you are prepared to take that one small step. * the screen goes blank as the recording ends * (OOC, think Babylon 5 and the League of Non-Aligned Worlds. The League, despite all their differences, managed to work together to such an extent that they were able to take on both the Vorlons and the Shadows. The League lead directly to the setting up of the ‘Interstellar Alliance’) That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The Universe is ruled by three basic principles- Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest!
Irias Salo Caldari The Star Wolves	Posted - 2007.01.26 14:21:00 - [23] Originally by: Vendrin Which I have no problem with, just don't let your subordinate start making claims about wars and destruction when he has not been in them. What my subordinates do in their free time is their own business. Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Pathetic. Star Wolves should fight their own battles. To date The Star Wolves have always fought their own battles. Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
Jack Malus Gallente Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.01.26 20:06:00 - [24] I doubt you'll get public support here. Perhaps something more discreet like a fund where individuals or organizations could donate ISK or ships anonymously to those fighting on the front lines. I suspect your target has many enemies in every faction that would gladly pay to see them destroyed. ---
Nemesor Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.26 23:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Jack Malus Perhaps something more discreet like a fund where individuals or organizations could donate ISK or ships anonymously to those fighting on the front lines. Hrrrm. You can just send the money to me. I will put it to good use... and I am on the front lines.
Selim Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.26 23:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Jack Malus I doubt you'll get public support here. Perhaps something more discreet like a fund where individuals or organizations could donate ISK or ships anonymously to those fighting on the front lines. I suspect your target has many enemies in every faction that would gladly pay to see them destroyed. What would these benevolent benefactors do when they hear of their gifts being squandered and squirreled away, rather than actually being used to fight the "common foe"? Because that is what I predict. Either way... I look forward to this fund being established.
Rudy Metallo Minmatar G.H.O.S.T	Posted - 2007.01.27 03:51:00 - [27] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Bravo! When the time comes for nationalists of all persuasions to stand shoulder to shoulder against the aspirant post-humans we'll know we're fully making an impression. applause Three cheers for villany, looting, and pillaging!
Roy Gordon Caldari The Star Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.07 13:30:00 - [28] The screen blinks on showing slowly walking backwards and forwards behind a desk, hands gently clasped behind his back. He is softly whistling as he turns to face the screen, smiles, and sits down in the chair behind the desk Oh, there you are, sitting comfortably are we? Good. Well, since my last little chat with you I have received some most encouraging responses, most encouraging indeed. * points to a computer screen in front of him and runs his finger down the list of names * And some responses from the most unexpected quarters to boot. It seems I struck a cord with quite a few of you concerned people's out there. However, there is still much to do, and I encourage all those who wish to live how they have always lived, free from the depredations of others, to make contact. You have nothing to loose and much to gain. Thank you for your time. * The screen goes blank* That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The Universe is ruled by three basic principles- Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest!
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.02.09 01:51:00 - [29] I see no major threat to the empires that would make this alliance a neccessity, but should one appear, sign me up. Mind you, the only thing I can thing of would be if the Jovians got a case of megalomania and tried to conquer us. __________________________________________ What I say should not be taken as the position of Gradient or NMTZ.

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