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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.12.08 16:25:00 -
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ive been stuck in umi-kk 4 times, on 3 sperate days, kinda makes it hard to attack venal. Must be NVA hax0ring 
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2003.12.08 16:31:00 -
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It was fun.....and if it was as lagged as you say it was, then i agree, you guys were entering a death trap. Unfortunatley there's not much anyone can do about that at the moment. All I can say is we didn't have any idea there was problems in that area, we saw a blob close by and thought you guys were looking for some action. Thats the reason we went to umi. Anyhows, bravey was shown, and at least some of your ships managed to get away. 
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.12.08 17:37:00 -
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I don't think anyone seriously believes that the ForsA fleet was exploiting. I don't know about the petitions that were filed, but I do know that the only real way to get a petition read is to file it as a cheat or exploit. If you file it under the "other" category, it gets thrown in the trash. And the fact is, one side does not have to intentionally exploit in order for another side to have been exploited. (Did that make sense?)
As far as I'm concerned, we were exploited by the game and the game mechanics. We may have gotten out arses kicked regardless...who knows? All I know is that I was the first to jump, and it only took me ten seconds or so to load. I assume it's because the server had no problem calculating that I had jumped before anyone else. I did not personally get stuck.
But I also know that I was calling targets in gang chat to pilots who were responding with "still loading," and "I'm stuck," and "I can't move."
Tends to put a dampener on an otherwise fun day.
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2003.12.08 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: KIAPieman on 08/12/2003 17:51:07 it may be a problem with jumping more than 2-3 ships at once, when our force got stuck about 7 peeps were jumping at the same time.
to be honest guys, you should petition to get the lost ships back, as it was a breakdown in the mechanics of the game, but they will probably say prove it. --------------------------------------------------------
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ReForMatt
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Posted - 2003.12.08 18:23:00 -
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I beleive they did petition not sure what will come of it I am sure it will be the same old letter from ccp I was one system back and heard it all on TS. The worst part is the game is one of the best games graphics and idea wise. And when you hear your buddies are going to battle you break off of your cearbear activities to go join up with them only to hear ohhhh (place alot of bad words here) white screen.
Quote: Edited by: KIAPieman on 08/12/2003 17:51:07 it may be a problem with jumping more than 2-3 ships at once, when our force got stuck about 7 peeps were jumping at the same time.
to be honest guys, you should petition to get the lost ships back, as it was a breakdown in the mechanics of the game, but they will probably say prove it.
GODS NUFF SAID!! |

DAViiD
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Posted - 2003.12.08 18:39:00 -
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What really bothers me in this cases is, that CCP never made an official statement about it.
We all know they read this post, but no1 cared to reply :S.
D. Lokan > This is more boring as listening to golf on radio! |

AndoJin
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Posted - 2003.12.08 19:05:00 -
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SAS is working with the NVA! Zincol,Havocide,Pyschopath,Helrazzer,Captain Shaggy.... NVA-supporters and Bad Stabbing Scum... Beware!!
SAS=LOSERS.... HA HAAHA AH AHAHAHA
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AndoJin
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Posted - 2003.12.08 19:05:00 -
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SAS is working with the NVA! Zincol,Havocide,Pyschopath,Helrazzer,Captain Shaggy.... NVA-supporters and Bad Stabbing Scum... Beware!!
SAS=LOSERS.... HA HAAHA AH AHAHAHA
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Havocide
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Posted - 2003.12.08 20:17:00 -
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I love these brave people and their alts 
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Uzael
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Posted - 2003.12.08 20:26:00 -
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Hmmmmm -------------- UZAEL
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.12.08 20:30:00 -
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look umi-kk is a naturally laggy system
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MORRS
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Posted - 2003.12.08 20:44:00 -
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look umi-kk is a naturally laggy system
I doubt that it is naturally laggy! If it's a problem with how many ships u jump with or...... "look umi-kk is a naturally laggy system"...... is kinda of a mute point. If we cant get these problems fixed the eve community will dwindle down to nothing or peps with multiple accounts. Now that would be a blast huh? Of course it wouldnt be. As far as the epa/si goes I dont think that they had anything to do with these problems we faced sunday night, I just hope that we get a chance to fire our weapons next time. Sure would make it more fun for both groups instead of a slaughter. See ya in deep space 
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nizzin
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Posted - 2003.12.08 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: nizzin on 08/12/2003 22:33:16 You showed valor jumping in. Sorry it wasn't more of a fight I'm sure you would have faired a little better had circumstances been different
Cry havoc! And let slip the dogs of war!
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Alkanine
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Posted - 2003.12.08 23:14:00 -
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I used to have problems jumping in as well because the graphics is what your computer is loading and so on. Recently I was lucky enough to recieve a AlienWare and I get in jumps from 1-5 seconds 5 if theres around 10 battel ships in the area with full drones out. I even had time to see my iteron 5 get blown up by all 10 of them . Still this is a major problem and I agree that a person should not pop up in a system untill he/shes computer loads up the system.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.12.09 00:07:00 -
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Quote: Its not a war we just get bored and come to kill you all.
I have no interest in slagging matches, but iv been in EC and PB alot over the last while, and all iv seen from all rats that come, is smoke from the multiple MWDs.
None of our corp members have died .
Dont come up here kitted for running, and say u come up to kill us, u know where to find us... its all getting rather boring.
Sigh. the next patch better change things, we dont get any PVP action now unless we jumpin blind to camped JIs, if it doesnt im gonna rethink my subscription.
At the mo, it totally sucks big suckies.
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Vultair
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Posted - 2003.12.09 02:11:00 -
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I did not realise UMI was having a problem.... Interesting choice of system to camp after not going there for weeks..... Unless of course members of the pirate community knew there were problems with that system and exploited that knowledge. Considering several must have read the earlier petitions that is of course entirely possible.
This is what I'm talking about right here. Ok, we're the enemy fair enough. And you all lost alot of ships to us through a borked system, again fair enough. And as you may not be aware our entire reserve fleet was unable to reinforce us in UMI-KK because AW1 was a blackhole. The reason we "chose" UMI-KK was because it made the most sense due to the fact that 2 of our fleets from 2 different regions were trying to link up. None of us knew UMI was borked and its ludicrous for you to suggest we would have chosen this location because it was having problems. Why the hell would we knowingly want to fight in a screwed system? Get real Trianon were the enemy... not exploiters.
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Trianon Starstealer
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Posted - 2003.12.09 02:32:00 -
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Quote:
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I did not realise UMI was having a problem.... Interesting choice of system to camp after not going there for weeks..... Unless of course members of the pirate community knew there were problems with that system and exploited that knowledge. Considering several must have read the earlier petitions that is of course entirely possible.
This is what I'm talking about right here. Ok, we're the enemy fair enough. And you all lost alot of ships to us through a borked system, again fair enough. And as you may not be aware our entire reserve fleet was unable to reinforce us in UMI-KK because AW1 was a blackhole. The reason we "chose" UMI-KK was because it made the most sense due to the fact that 2 of our fleets from 2 different regions were trying to link up. None of us knew UMI was borked and its ludicrous for you to suggest we would have chosen this location because it was having problems. Why the hell would we knowingly want to fight in a screwed system? Get real Trianon were the enemy... not exploiters.
First... it only appears to be screwed when you were jumping in. Moving around the system seems fine, engaging in combat... again... apparently no side affects there..... only problem with the system is the JIP... and of all the systems you appear to have chosen it was the one with teh screwed JIP.
As for not being exploiters.... sorry..... that one qualifies you for Saturday Night Live, because your a freakign stand up comedian.
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Vultair
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Posted - 2003.12.09 02:56:00 -
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Just the type of response I figured I'd get. Was hoping for common sense to prevail but I guess not.
Ah well, you've seen through my charade... I'm secretly a GM with infinate knowledge of the game and all its problems AND I alone know exactly how to get around them. So that being said I will now wave my magic wand and return UMI back to normal for all.
Uh yeah and to Cormyat, much respect. I do believe you are the most dignified and respectful opponent I've ever met. I truly regret that this fight was not what it should have been for I believe it would have been a glorious battle.
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Trianon Starstealer
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Posted - 2003.12.09 02:58:00 -
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Quote: Just the type of response I figured I'd get. Was hoping for common sense to prevail but I guess not.
Ah well, you've seen through my charade... I'm secretly a GM with infinate knowledge of the game and all its problems AND I alone know exactly how to get around them. So that being said I will now wave my magic wand and return UMI back to normal for all.
Uh yeah and to Cormyat, much respect. I do believe you are the most dignified and respectful opponent I've ever met. I truly regret that this fight was not what it should have been for I believe it would have been a glorious battle.
Glad I didnt disappoint you.
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.12.09 11:38:00 -
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Quote:
I doubt that it is naturally laggy! If it's a problem with how many ships u jump with or...... "look umi-kk is a naturally laggy system"...... is kinda of a mute point. If we cant get these problems fixed the eve community will dwindle down to nothing or peps with multiple accounts. Now that would be a blast huh? Of course it wouldnt be. As far as the epa/si goes I dont think that they had anything to do with these problems we faced sunday night, I just hope that we get a chance to fire our weapons next time. Sure would make it more fun for both groups instead of a slaughter. See ya in deep space 
Well i have a fast connection and a fast computer, whenever i enter that system it takes about 6 seconds to load(for me thats alot), most of the time there is nobody in there or just 1 or 2. I dont think that system like me then 
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MORRS
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Posted - 2003.12.09 14:36:00 -
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I also have a decent system AMD 3000 1 gig ddr ram gforce 4 4600 ti video card, cable and dsl (which the wife cant understand why I have both lol) So please dont sit there and try to tell me how it was slow conns and slow pc's BAH! Who knows why it happened! Lets try and put this thread to bed boyz and girlz! 
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Stoop
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Posted - 2003.12.09 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Stoop on 09/12/2003 16:31:23
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...The reason we "chose" UMI-KK was because it made the most sense due to the fact that 2 of our fleets from 2 different regions were trying to link up. None of us knew UMI was borked and its ludicrous for you to suggest we would have chosen this location because it was having problems.
Just to play the devil's advocate... Reptar admitted to knowing that the system was fubard. (2 different times I beleive)
Not calling you an exploiter or anything, just pointing that out.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.12.09 18:12:00 -
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I'm curious to know why all of a sudden all these systems in the boondocks lag out so often. Yulai/Amarr/Luminaire have an excuse at 40-60 pilots, but I've been in parts of Venal in the past few weeks with 10 pilots in system and the lag was too bad to do any station tasks, let alone risk PvP (or even chaining). Hell, I had a 5 minute jump into an *empty* 0.0 a couple of times. How does that make sense?
What's the deal with the sudden lag. Do other 0.0 regions get this crap or are we the specially loved of CCP ?
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.12.09 18:30:00 -
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We all knew what we were doing and we all jumped, not your fault. We knew they would lag the JIP and we never had a GM Swoosh to call on.
Just so you know. I messaged GM Swoosh about what was going to happen so they could get real "War Data". You didn't think he just appeared out of nowhere did you.
BTW: That happened because of the Bladerunners coming to FDZ. SO you can blame Bladerunners.
Crice
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ReForMatt
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Posted - 2003.12.09 18:55:00 -
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I am not blaming anyone except ccp for expecting us to pay for a game that cannot handle the server loads with in reason. Sucks to know that the only thing your worried about when you know your fixing to go in to pvp and all your worried about is damn I hope my screen loads when I jump threw this gate. Thats bs be it your a pirate or a pirate hunter no one should have to deal with that.
GODS NUFF SAID!! |

Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.12.09 19:00:00 -
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Quote: I Sucks to know that the only thing your worried about when you know your fixing to go in to pvp and all your worried about is damn I hope my screen loads when I jump threw this gate.
Amen.
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.12.09 19:14:00 -
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Quote: I am not blaming anyone except ccp for expecting us to pay for a game that cannot handle the server loads with in reason. Sucks to know that the only thing your worried about when you know your fixing to go in to pvp and all your worried about is damn I hope my screen loads when I jump threw this gate. Thats bs be it your a pirate or a pirate hunter no one should have to deal with that.
I agree with you on this one.
Crice
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Vladameir
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Posted - 2003.12.09 19:42:00 -
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Well CCP refuses to replace anything or do anything about it, so its obvious to me that this next patch is gonna be a bunch of CRAP again!!! CCP YOU SUCK!!!
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