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Forum Troll
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:25:00 -
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Knowing the general popularity of killboards, why has CCP neglected to build this feature into the game itself?
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:33:00 -
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CS is that way --->
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Ridley Tree
The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:35:00 -
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Why bother adding one more thing to the EVE server, causing that much more lag, and adding that much more crap to the database, when we, the players, are doing it for ourselves on our own servers? ---
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Nero Scuro
Caldari Jejaikaro Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:37:00 -
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Public killboards are ***. ___
The world isn't going to end; we're not that lucky... |

El Verbatim
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:37:00 -
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It could be done on a different server by CCP too without lagging up the game.
But it would draw away resources for other stuff offcourse which might not be what we want either.
Having a general one taken care of by CCP would remove the possibilities of cheating (creating a km) plus you'd only have to look in one place instead of in god knows how many places to find someone.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:41:00 -
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Note the OPs name 
Flame bait alert!
Therefore: IBTL \o/ -----------------------------------------------
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Strange Guy
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Strange Guy on 26/01/2007 23:55:50 It will probably come with factional warfare, but it should be added if not with that.
All deaths and kills could be instantly reported, without all the stupid fake kills or deaths.
It should list all information from the kill mail.
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Darion Striker
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:00:00 -
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Given the growing amount of people who don't like kill-mails/kill-boards in the first place, thinking that they've degraded a certain aspect of the game into a pure search for kills - I don't think that adding a killboard to the game would be a wise decision.
-Striker-
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Strange Guy
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Strange Guy on 27/01/2007 00:03:21
Originally by: Darion Striker Given the growing amount of people who don't like kill-mails/kill-boards in the first place, thinking that they've degraded a certain aspect of the game into a pure search for kills - I don't think that adding a killboard to the game would be a wise decision.
-Striker-
Because everyone thinks that it will create more "griefers" or something stupid like that.
They could add another field to the kill mails, nearest object, so you can see the gate campers if that makes you feel better.
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Necronomicon
Caldari The Weasels of Doom
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:19:00 -
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By dropping killmails, and automatically dropping the details into a seperate (externally available) database would actually decrease the server load (currently a mail gets sent to both killer and victim, and most are kept by killers anyway, so remain in the system) it would make sense. The Database would not be available for viewing ingame, and would only be there for interested parties to mirror from for their own killboards. Hence, it would not increase griefing, but it would cut down on ppl not posting losses etc.
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:21:00 -
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Because I don't want the whole damn galaxy to know where I yarr at.
I'm located in the most delicious system in the galaxy though 
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Forum Troll
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 Note the OPs name 
Flame bait alert!
Therefore: IBTL \o/
I don't use my main on the forums. Has nothing to do with my posts. Think of my original post as a way of starting a discussion with the hope of reaching an end result.
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Dilskin
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:00:00 -
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1 vote here for elimination of kill mails altogether. 15 seconds frozen while killmails are sent is no fun for either party. |

Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:19:00 -
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Screw killmails, if it's that necessary why not have the billboards broadcast who shot at who for that system during the day. That'd be a use for them finally.
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Forum Troll
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Posted - 2007.01.27 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron Screw killmails, if it's that necessary why not have the billboards broadcast who shot at who for that system during the day. That'd be a use for them finally.
That would be nice too!
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Griefer Troll
Troll Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.27 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Griefer Troll on 27/01/2007 03:31:27
Originally by: Forum Troll Knowing the general popularity of killboards, why has CCP neglected to build this feature into the game itself?
Are we related?
If you are my kid, tell you're mother she won't get a penny from me. You can join my corp though.
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Moraguth
Amarr Rangers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 03:40:00 -
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I invite you all to check out my thread over here for a discussion on the merits of getting rid of kill mails all together. I kinda like the idea of centralized killboard.
Maybe have the option for each player. 1 : Make my kills available on the KB 2 : Make my deaths avaailable on the KB
Heh, with that, we'd also see who lost ships to NPC's alot too. I think i'd allow my deaths to show up, it's not that big a deal to me.
good game |

Feng Schui
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.01.27 04:13:00 -
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no... they cannot build a server with enough HDD space to display the amount of times i have gotten blown up 
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ghosttr
Amarr Point-Zero Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.27 06:36:00 -
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I would like to see an automated dedicated server for the killboard, so it relies on eve for data, but eve doesnt have to be running for the killboard to be running. I would also see it to be used through the in game browser. An official killboard would help with 'false kill mails' that noobs will sometimes write to make themselves look better. SO it would get and post the killmail right when it was recieved, so then kill statistics wouldnt be off. (I know privateers claimed a few kills to people that didn't even move from our home in 0.0, or in a few instances killed the founder of the corp which hasn't logged on in months, and the war has only gone on for a week ) SUPPORT T2 FIX! |

Darion Striker
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.27 06:56:00 -
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I suppose I'm curious as to why it is alright to kill purely for the Kill Mail.
Money, logistics, alliance politics etc. etc. I understand. This is Eve.
Purely for the Kill Mail, for the "rankings" as it were, I don't understand.
Can someone explain it to me?
Addendum: this is not flame bait or trolling, I truly would like to understand why the addition of such a thing would help at all.
-Striker-
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Moraguth
Amarr Rangers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 09:46:00 -
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I'm right there with ya, I'd like to know their mentality too. *must resist urge to flame*
good game |

Necronomicon
Caldari The Weasels of Doom
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Posted - 2007.01.27 10:11:00 -
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The excuse of "I dont want ppl to know where I am" does not fly. If you are the aggressor then the whining of your victim in corp/alliance chat will blow your cover. If the are the victim, then the guy who wanted to know where you were just found you ;)
Are you really so vain that you think there 1000 of pilots trolling killboards in the hope they can find out where YOU are? Location agents anyone?
My resolution is a non browsable ingame database instead of the lag involved in killmails being sent. IF a corp/alliance wants their killboard to reference that database to show their progress, then they can. The killboard database would not allow complete dumps, but only exports based on specific criteria (i.e by corp ticker = XYZ etc) so ppl would not be sucking the entire contents out, ony the parts that ware reletive to them.
For your average PVE player, killmails mean nothing, they are just an annoyance. This would get rid of that extra load.
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.27 10:57:00 -
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The following has been suggested before and I think it could work:
When declaring a war, you get an option to pay some more/week to get 100% accurate kill/death statistics. During the war you will only see your own LOSSES, however when the entire war ends you get to see what you have killed. This way the actual war won't degenerate into k/d ratio gankfest where no shuttle is spared just because the k/d ratio is below 374823:1. --- Mandatory disclaimer: These are my thoughts, not my corps/alliances. ---
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Fester Addams
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.01.27 11:04:00 -
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Why would CCP build an ingame killboard when they have created an ingame browser that will allow players to build their own.
As for why there is none to be used as a ****ing contest for PvP players...
Well its a game that is suposed to be atleast partly realistic. When was the last time you saw a real life killboard?
Killboards are for people who care to have them, I am not overly interested in them even to keep track of my own kills and thus would hate for people to be able to simply go in and check my kills and by that be able to deduce things about me.
I like my position as an unknown, and while a killboard will in no way make me a famous player it is one more place people would be able to find my name where I have not myself placed it.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.01.27 11:18:00 -
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I say yes, but for comparative purposes only. Such a killboard should not show the date, time or location of kills, just statistics relating to the # of kills by / deaths of pilots. It'd complement the bounty top 50 quite nicely... ------
So you're lagged out in Motsu/Saila/Aramachi, but you want that CNR? Do missions for another corp! |

Galk
Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said
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Posted - 2007.01.27 11:21:00 -
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Replying a few up:
If you wanted the very simplest of answers, then it's purely because stats are s3x to the addicted net gamer.
Thats just keeping it simple, i could reach far deeper in to explain the mentality behind it, but im realy not intrested in doing that here, as it just feeds derailers. Surfice to say though it effects just about every game to some degree, including this one.
The reason why you don't see ccp implimenting a killboard is purely because as much a turn on it is to some people, it would be an absolute no no not going there for others.
Protential subscribers lost, it's unlikely you will see an offical one anytime soon.
You guys love the drama that surrounds having your own anyway, gives you something else to argue over ______
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.01.27 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 27/01/2007 11:38:18 Double post ------
So you're lagged out in Motsu/Saila/Aramachi, but you want that CNR? Do missions for another corp! |

Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.27 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Darion Striker Given the growing amount of people who don't like kill-mails/kill-boards in the first place, thinking that they've degraded a certain aspect of the game into a pure search for kills - I don't think that adding a killboard to the game would be a wise decision.
-Striker-
Making them alliance/+10 visible and voila, you've got nearly the same function as homemade kb. Without cheating (there is a lot of it recently).
Actually, just an official kb visible for everybody just showing ISK losses / ISK gain would be something great. A lot of smack/political mess/"innocent bs" would be gone that way. -> that's leads to the stockmarket for the game. -----
History is made by whinners |

lusifar
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Posted - 2007.01.28 04:40:00 -
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because senseless killing is not something that the eve game is incurarging...and killmail *****s is a bad thing
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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2007.01.28 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: lusifar because senseless killing is not something that the eve game is incurarging...and killmail *****s is a bad thing
whoa! First off killing is definitely something eve is 'incurarging' (lol, i've seen some bad spelling, but wow!). This can be made apparent by the fact we can PUT BIG FRIGGIN GUNS ON OUR SHIP
I love the idea!
Why not have killboard service? (unless your someone in eve that wants to discourage pvp, then stfu. We all know how much fun mining veldspar is we just aren't ready for your level of gaming )
This would really be awsome for medals and such, people could see who really pwns! (brag when your in the top 100)
AND, #1 reason, once and for all we would not need to argue about ppl not posting their mails. Alliance X says Alliance Y lost 300 ships in encounter, Alliance Y insists they only lost 3, blah blah blah.
It would be THE authority and set alot of records straight. They should def do this.
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