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Dreez
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 13:20:00 -
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When an interceptor with basic t2 gear, moves slower then a battleship, then there¦s something wrong. I¦ve seen Nanophoons and Nanodomis move @ 8km/s while most ceptors cant even reach 5km/s with standard gear.
CCP needs to sort the damned Nanosetups fast. Ive fought Nano¦ships in SISI and there is no winning against them unless you are camping their jumpin with a rapier and really fast lock.
Bob farted, ASCN burped & then there was a nodecrash.
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Charlie Seriya
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Posted - 2007.01.27 13:23:00 -
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There's a sticky on this at the top of this very forum.
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slothe
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.27 13:30:00 -
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nerf threads about nerfing nanos?
Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar |
Zixxa
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Posted - 2007.01.27 13:53:00 -
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8kmsec for BS is only with snake set, rar MWD and gimped setup. I think around 1*** per ship, yes? Do not care too much about it. --------------------------------- Hint 1: Train for Mega, not for Rokh Hint 2: Abaddon is uber fleet BS. R.I.P. <Torpedo Raven> R.I.P. <Eagle> R.I.P. <ECM> R.I.P. <Drake>
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 13:56:00 -
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Cry me a ******* river you clueless monkey.
It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
Asestorian
Minmatar Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:00:00 -
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I agree that the speed that some of the nano-BS can get to is a little.. silly at the moment. But please, we don't need another thread on it.
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Felzius
Gallente Phoenix Wing Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:00:00 -
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Not to be a jerk, but there's threads all over the place, and you're not adding anything to the argument.
I haven't seen any battleships go faster than 4000 ms, who are you fighting?
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Lucus Ranger
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:02:00 -
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I agree on that they need to be looked at, infact I think there's alot of things which need to be looked at and reblanced, but another thread on the subject when there's about dozen more isn't really needed.
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Killer Dragon
Caldari Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
When an interceptor with basic t2 gear, moves slower then a battleship, then there¦s something wrong. I¦ve seen Nanophoons and Nanodomis move @ 8km/s while most ceptors cant even reach 5km/s with standard gear.
CCP needs to sort the damned Nanosetups fast. Ive fought Nano¦ships in SISI and there is no winning against them unless you are camping their jumpin with a rapier and really fast lock.
Err.. You do realise that these 8km/s battleships you see have :
- Deadspace/Officer/Faction MWDS - LG or HG Snake Set - Local Hull iStabs + Domination/Local Hull Nanos. - Reduction In mass or +MWD % boost.
Now If we take all that and put it on a interdictor.
Which do you think would be faster?
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Killer Dragon
Originally by: Dreez
When an interceptor with basic t2 gear, moves slower then a battleship, then there¦s something wrong. I¦ve seen Nanophoons and Nanodomis move @ 8km/s while most ceptors cant even reach 5km/s with standard gear.
CCP needs to sort the damned Nanosetups fast. Ive fought Nano¦ships in SISI and there is no winning against them unless you are camping their jumpin with a rapier and really fast lock.
Err.. You do realise that these 8km/s battleships you see have :
- Deadspace/Officer/Faction MWDS - LG or HG Snake Set - Local Hull iStabs + Domination/Local Hull Nanos. - Reduction In mass or +MWD % boost.
Now If we take all that and put it on a interdictor.
Which do you think would be faster?
Battleship after bs locks dictor(hi mr heavy nosf). Not to mention that he's out of any bubble in 3s and warps in 0.5s.
Domi without any snakes easily go 5.5km /s with core mwd that costs mighty 30mil (or gist b-type). Ofc, please buy them, i was stockpiling them long enough. That's speed of t2 inty. --------
*snip*
You are not allowed to be outbreak alt atm.
Your friendly [GM]/[DEV]/[ISD] team. *snip*
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Exiled One on 27/01/2007 14:09:47 Edited by: Exiled One on 27/01/2007 14:09:28
Originally by: Killer Dragon
Originally by: Dreez
When an interceptor with basic t2 gear, moves slower then a battleship, then there¦s something wrong. I¦ve seen Nanophoons and Nanodomis move @ 8km/s while most ceptors cant even reach 5km/s with standard gear.
CCP needs to sort the damned Nanosetups fast. Ive fought Nano¦ships in SISI and there is no winning against them unless you are camping their jumpin with a rapier and really fast lock.
Err.. You do realise that these 8km/s battleships you see have :
- Deadspace/Officer/Faction MWDS - LG or HG Snake Set - Local Hull iStabs + Domination/Local Hull Nanos. - Reduction In mass or +MWD % boost.
Now If we take all that and put it on a interdictor.
Which do you think would be faster?
That's why he is a clueless monkey, for 1.8bil isk i'll make any ceptor go +13km/s
edit: 8kms phoon= domi nanos, 2x local istabs, lg snake set, core xtype/gist xtype mwd, 3 mwd boost rigs. It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Killer Dragon
Originally by: Dreez
When an interceptor with basic t2 gear, moves slower then a battleship, then there¦s something wrong. I¦ve seen Nanophoons and Nanodomis move @ 8km/s while most ceptors cant even reach 5km/s with standard gear.
CCP needs to sort the damned Nanosetups fast. Ive fought Nano¦ships in SISI and there is no winning against them unless you are camping their jumpin with a rapier and really fast lock.
Err.. You do realise that these 8km/s battleships you see have :
- Deadspace/Officer/Faction MWDS - LG or HG Snake Set - Local Hull iStabs + Domination/Local Hull Nanos. - Reduction In mass or +MWD % boost.
Now If we take all that and put it on a interdictor.
Which do you think would be faster?
Battleship after bs locks dictor(hi mr heavy nosf). Not to mention that he's out of any bubble in 3s and warps in 0.5s.
Domi without any snakes easily go 5.5km /s with core mwd that costs mighty 30mil (or gist b-type). Ofc, please buy them, i was stockpiling them long enough. That's speed of t2 inty.
core xtype 90mil gist btype 55mil lowest prices. It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 27/01/2007 14:22:10
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Killer Dragon
Originally by: Dreez
When an interceptor with basic t2 gear, moves slower then a battleship, then there¦s something wrong. I¦ve seen Nanophoons and Nanodomis move @ 8km/s while most ceptors cant even reach 5km/s with standard gear.
CCP needs to sort the damned Nanosetups fast. Ive fought Nano¦ships in SISI and there is no winning against them unless you are camping their jumpin with a rapier and really fast lock.
Err.. You do realise that these 8km/s battleships you see have :
- Deadspace/Officer/Faction MWDS - LG or HG Snake Set - Local Hull iStabs + Domination/Local Hull Nanos. - Reduction In mass or +MWD % boost.
Now If we take all that and put it on a interdictor.
Which do you think would be faster?
Battleship after bs locks dictor(hi mr heavy nosf). Not to mention that he's out of any bubble in 3s and warps in 0.5s.
Domi without any snakes easily go 5.5km /s with core mwd that costs mighty 30mil (or gist b-type). Ofc, please buy them, i was stockpiling them long enough. That's speed of t2 inty.
core xtype 90mil gist btype 55mil lowest prices.
Sure. I remember when i bought like 3 gist btpye mwds for 45mil :))))
Prices atm are irrelevant. It's like ... cerb prices are dropping=> cerb sucks? Or just drake too good?
Honestly, nanoships are a bit too good at: -not getting hit at all <- core of problem -running away -breaking any tank(hi mr heavy nosfx4) -too good investment for it's cost(yay i can kill 1 nanofgt with blob... great ballance)
Oh and my modest nanodomi goes 5.3km /s without snakes or any faction stuff apart from mwd.
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*snip*
You are not allowed to be outbreak alt atm.
Your friendly [GM]/[DEV]/[ISD] team. *snip*
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Killer Dragon
Originally by: Dreez
When an interceptor with basic t2 gear, moves slower then a battleship, then there¦s something wrong. I¦ve seen Nanophoons and Nanodomis move @ 8km/s while most ceptors cant even reach 5km/s with standard gear.
CCP needs to sort the damned Nanosetups fast. Ive fought Nano¦ships in SISI and there is no winning against them unless you are camping their jumpin with a rapier and really fast lock.
Err.. You do realise that these 8km/s battleships you see have :
- Deadspace/Officer/Faction MWDS - LG or HG Snake Set - Local Hull iStabs + Domination/Local Hull Nanos. - Reduction In mass or +MWD % boost.
Now If we take all that and put it on a interdictor.
Which do you think would be faster?
Battleship after bs locks dictor(hi mr heavy nosf). Not to mention that he's out of any bubble in 3s and warps in 0.5s.
Domi without any snakes easily go 5.5km /s with core mwd that costs mighty 30mil (or gist b-type). Ofc, please buy them, i was stockpiling them long enough. That's speed of t2 inty.
core xtype 90mil gist btype 55mil lowest prices.
Sure. I remember when i bought like 3 gist btpye mwds for 45mil :))))
Prices atm are irrelevant. It's like ... cerb prices are dropping=> cerb sucks? Or just drake too good?
Honestly, nanoships are a bit too good at: -not getting hit at all <- core of problem -running away -breaking any tank(hi mr heavy nosfx4) -too good investment for it's cost(yay i can kill 1 nanofgt with blob... great ballance)
I don't care what you bought and for how much, current prices are in my prev post.
-not getting hit at all - orbit speed must be at least 5km/s even then heavy missiles and medium sized turrets will track/do damage. -running away - agreed -breaking any tank(hi mr heavy nosfx4) - it will take time to break the tank and when targets cap is gone you will start burning cap boosters fast, end result will be - you run away if the target has some decent hp. -too good investment for it's cost - 400mil for 5,5km/s, 800mil for 8km/s, 2bil for 13km/s. Do the math
It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
Soros
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:34:00 -
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ther fine. Huggin and rapier pwns them. the ships are weakened from ther damage, and ther also should be a ship ingame to be afraid of
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Soros
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Killer Dragon
Originally by: Dreez
When an interceptor with basic t2 gear, moves slower then a battleship, then there¦s something wrong. I¦ve seen Nanophoons and Nanodomis move @ 8km/s while most ceptors cant even reach 5km/s with standard gear.
CCP needs to sort the damned Nanosetups fast. Ive fought Nano¦ships in SISI and there is no winning against them unless you are camping their jumpin with a rapier and really fast lock.
Err.. You do realise that these 8km/s battleships you see have :
- Deadspace/Officer/Faction MWDS - LG or HG Snake Set - Local Hull iStabs + Domination/Local Hull Nanos. - Reduction In mass or +MWD % boost.
Now If we take all that and put it on a interdictor.
Which do you think would be faster?
this man knows what hes talking about ...
invest the isk, reap the rewards .. or get pwned by a webbing recon !!
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One rofl expensive
domi= 55mil insurance = 18.5mil drones = 30mil? 4x diminishing (no idea, i get them in delve) 3 rigs = 150mil (build your own if you need to pay more) t2 warp disruptor (20mil?) 2x local iStab = 20mil? 2x local nano = 20mil? 2x local overdrive = 20mil? gist c-type mwd(just bought it) = 20mil rest... cheap ------------- 330mil at quite hi prices for ship where you get back 55mil Don't forget that's price of tier 3 bs with 3 rigs. --------
*snip*
You are not allowed to be outbreak alt atm.
Your friendly [GM]/[DEV]/[ISD] team. *snip*
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Soros ther fine. Huggin and rapier pwns them. the ships are weakened from ther damage, and ther also should be a ship ingame to be afraid of
correct
those speeds are also reachable with 5 nanos 2 istabs also which leaves no room for bcu/rcu (sieges). you're restricted to 4 cruise launchers with silly dps and a 175 drone bay and you will lose your drones after a few sec depended when you release them - recalling is not an option. even for warriors II
It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 27/01/2007 14:37:31
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Soros ther fine. Huggin and rapier pwns them. the ships are weakened from ther damage, and ther also should be a ship ingame to be afraid of
correct
those speeds are also reachable with 5 nanos 2 istabs also which leaves no room for bcu/rcu (sieges). you're restricted to 4 cruise launchers with silly dps and a 175 drone bay and you will lose your drones after a few sec depended when you release them - recalling is not an option. even for warriors II
450dps for me, kthx. Each drone has more than 3k hp and I have plenty. Combined with 4 heavy nosf and lg talismans(different approach i belive), there is no ship that can tank me. (apart oversized passive tanks on cruisers & bc) --------
*snip*
You are not allowed to be outbreak alt atm.
Your friendly [GM]/[DEV]/[ISD] team. *snip*
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Exiled One rofl expensive
domi= 55mil insurance = 18.5mil drones = 30mil? 4x diminishing (no idea, i get them in delve) 3 rigs = 150mil (build your own if you need to pay more) t2 warp disruptor (20mil?) 2x local iStab = 20mil? 2x local nano = 20mil? 2x local overdrive = 20mil? gist c-type mwd(just bought it) = 20mil rest... cheap ------------- 330mil at quite hi prices for ship where you get back 55mil Don't forget that's price of tier 3 bs with 3 rigs.
give me a speed of the beast, 4,5km/s? orbit speed 3,8?
phoon 80mil core xtype 90mil 3 rigs 130mil cruise/nos - 30mil drones - 20mil t2 disruptor 25mil 5 local nanos, 2 istabs lets say 5mil each - 35mil
400mil
top speed should be ~6km/s with maxed skills. orbit speed 5,6 i'd say
It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Exiled One on 27/01/2007 14:42:16
Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 27/01/2007 14:37:31
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Soros ther fine. Huggin and rapier pwns them. the ships are weakened from ther damage, and ther also should be a ship ingame to be afraid of
correct
those speeds are also reachable with 5 nanos 2 istabs also which leaves no room for bcu/rcu (sieges). you're restricted to 4 cruise launchers with silly dps and a 175 drone bay and you will lose your drones after a few sec depended when you release them - recalling is not an option. even for warriors II
450dps for me, kthx. Each drone has more than 3k hp and I have plenty. Combined with 4 heavy nosf and lg talismans(different approach i belive), there is no ship that can tank me. (apart oversized passive tanks on cruisers & bc)
with drones
drones get popped by your targets drones, you can carry 5 heavy/5 medium or a lot of medium ones but that doesn't change the fact that they will be popped. now you include a talismans set, be sure to add 200mil to my 400 in the prev post.
leaving thread in your hands
nm you're talking about the domi, then you're even more vunreable (sp) than a phoon. It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
mematar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Felzius Not to be a jerk, but there's threads all over the place, and you're not adding anything to the argument.
I haven't seen any battleships go faster than 4000 ms, who are you fighting?
You are fighting the wrong guys then. My typhoon does 6k/s with PVP fit.
Dont even talk about the price of this thing to get it going that fast.
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mematar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Soros ther fine. Huggin and rapier pwns them. the ships are weakened from ther damage, and ther also should be a ship ingame to be afraid of
correct
those speeds are also reachable with 5 nanos 2 istabs also which leaves no room for bcu/rcu (sieges). you're restricted to 4 cruise launchers with silly dps and a 175 drone bay and you will lose your drones after a few sec depended when you release them - recalling is not an option. even for warriors II
This is also false. I go 6k/s with 2 nanos and 2 istabs, use 4 Siege II, 4 heavy nos etc. And my DPS is not that crap (~450)
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: mematar
Originally by: Felzius Not to be a jerk, but there's threads all over the place, and you're not adding anything to the argument.
I haven't seen any battleships go faster than 4000 ms, who are you fighting?
You are fighting the wrong guys then. My typhoon does 6k/s with PVP fit.
Dont even talk about the price of this thing to get it going that fast.
for prices read my above posts my test phoon goes 6km/s also It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: mematar
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Soros ther fine. Huggin and rapier pwns them. the ships are weakened from ther damage, and ther also should be a ship ingame to be afraid of
correct
those speeds are also reachable with 5 nanos 2 istabs also which leaves no room for bcu/rcu (sieges). you're restricted to 4 cruise launchers with silly dps and a 175 drone bay and you will lose your drones after a few sec depended when you release them - recalling is not an option. even for warriors II
This is also false. I go 6k/s with 2 nanos and 2 istabs, use 4 Siege II, 4 heavy nos etc. And my DPS is not that crap (~450)
snake/hardwiring, I'm talking about the 'cheap' version. Because they cant get it through their heads that it costs at least 400mil to get a decent kit. It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
mematar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: mematar
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Soros ther fine. Huggin and rapier pwns them. the ships are weakened from ther damage, and ther also should be a ship ingame to be afraid of
correct
those speeds are also reachable with 5 nanos 2 istabs also which leaves no room for bcu/rcu (sieges). you're restricted to 4 cruise launchers with silly dps and a 175 drone bay and you will lose your drones after a few sec depended when you release them - recalling is not an option. even for warriors II
This is also false. I go 6k/s with 2 nanos and 2 istabs, use 4 Siege II, 4 heavy nos etc. And my DPS is not that crap (~450)
snake/hardwiring, I'm talking about the 'cheap' version. Because they cant get it through their heads that it costs at least 400mil to get a decent kit.
Well ye, I use the expensive stuff, around 1.2b for fit and 800m for mixed snake set (without omega).
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 27/01/2007 14:49:17
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: mematar
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Soros ther fine. Huggin and rapier pwns them. the ships are weakened from ther damage, and ther also should be a ship ingame to be afraid of
correct
those speeds are also reachable with 5 nanos 2 istabs also which leaves no room for bcu/rcu (sieges). you're restricted to 4 cruise launchers with silly dps and a 175 drone bay and you will lose your drones after a few sec depended when you release them - recalling is not an option. even for warriors II
This is also false. I go 6k/s with 2 nanos and 2 istabs, use 4 Siege II, 4 heavy nos etc. And my DPS is not that crap (~450)
snake/hardwiring, I'm talking about the 'cheap' version. Because they cant get it through their heads that it costs at least 400mil to get a decent kit.
Now you are telling us that 400mil is alot of isk for ship that's like... invulnerable.
I don't even know why we argue here, let's enjoy them while they last(i hope). I know i'll be happy when(if) they are gone. Or if each race gets it's sort of huginn. --------
*snip*
You are not allowed to be outbreak alt atm.
Your friendly [GM]/[DEV]/[ISD] team. *snip*
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Furnak Tye
Caldari Mortis Angelus Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.27 15:00:00 -
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Signed.
All of a sudden there are loads of nano bships, it just silly. ------------------------------------------- MC blew up my battleships, be kind give a pauper some isk ! |
slothe
Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.27 15:10:00 -
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im in my nanodomi atm flying with a nanobs gang 2 nanophoons and nanomacheriel. its hilarious
Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar |
Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2007.01.27 15:24:00 -
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Nanoships are the only ships that can reasonably take on blobs. You'll notice its only the blobbers that whine, not the people that actually use tactics. - It's great being Minmatar, ain't it? |
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