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Mako Naredi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:21:33 -
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Hey all,
As some of you may know from my other thread, I am new to EVE, still screwing around in the trial.
So far I've been purchasing stuff via the marketplace (Probes, Probe Launchers, repair modules, etc). But I noticed that often times the things I was buying were located at other stations, sometimes multiple jumps away.
So I have 2 questions surrounding this.
1. Is there no way to buy things and have them "Shipped" to me, so that I don't need to make multiple jumps to pick them up?
2. When I pick them up, if I put them in my ships inventory, then jump and dock to another station, and put that item in my item hangar. Will I be able to access the items anywhere I dock? Or will it be left at that station, and every time I want to use it I need to go back there?
Your advice is much appreciated... I foresee it being weeks, maybe months before I can say I am comfortable with all of the game mechanics.
Cheers,
-Mako |
ISD Fractal
isd community communications liaisons
819
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:24:48 -
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1. Not exactly. You can buy something and create a courier contract and have someone ferry it around for you. However, if you buy items at stations other than the one that you are currently in, you will likely need to go fetch them yourself. You do get a pop up warning when you try to buy from something outside the current station, at least.
2. No, you can only access the items at the station where you left them.
You can use your assets screen (Alt-T by default I believe) to get an idea of where your stuff is. Most people set up some sort of base station somewhere where they keep their ships and items.
Hope that helps! :)
ISD Fractal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Mako Naredi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:28:40 -
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ISD Fractal wrote:1. Not exactly. You can buy something and create a courier contract and have someone ferry it around for you. However, if you buy items at stations other than the one that you are currently in, you will likely need to go fetch them yourself. You do get a pop up warning when you try to buy from something outside the current station, at least.
2. No, you can only access the items at the station where you left them.
You can use your assets screen (Alt-T by default I believe) to get an idea of where your stuff is. Most people set up some sort of base station somewhere where they keep their ships and items.
Hope that helps! :)
Very helpful! Thanks.
I guess once I get a hang of all the constellations and everything I'll decide on a "base station"... right now I basically have zero sense of location in the game lol... I guess this is normal? |
ISD Fractal
isd community communications liaisons
823
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:43:47 -
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This is normal. You'll start to learn about the big trade hubs (like Jita) and the major zones of each race with time and experience. You can also take a look at Dotlan to get a feel for the universe. You can search your current system and take a look at what is around you, too.
ISD Fractal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
111
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Posted - 2016.01.27 14:49:20 -
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So additional to very good answered your questions by ISD Fractal, I want to give you some more hints:
Your location in the Game:
You are in solar system inside a huge Galaxy. You can see the whole Galaxy by opening the Galaxy Map
(Button Map or Map Beta in the EvE Icon Menu at the left side of Screen).
You see its's Stars, the connection of the Stars via Jumpgates there and can configure other things
via the Galaxy Map Menue (coloured circle on top of the Map) to mark in Galaxy.
In the solar Systems space stations are set near moons which circle around a planet.
You sitting inside such a station.
For buying and selling there exist 5 bigger trade hubs in the Galaxy where you can buy most of
the things of the game. These trade hubs are stations in the solar Systems 'Jita' in Caldari Space,
'Dodixie' in Gallente Space, 'Amarr' in Amarr Space, 'Hek' and 'Rens' in Minimatar Space.
Most Players buy their stuff central by flying with a hauler to one of the trade hubs and buy there.
Select a base station for yourself in any given System. Perhaps in a sytem where you find
Ore you like to mine or in a System where Mission agents available you like to do missions for.
Transport your assets to your selected base with a hauler.
If you do the tutorial missions (Carreer Agents), you get haulers (and other ships and stuff) for free
from completing their missions. Press F12 key and look there in Help Menue for Carreer Agents.
All 5 career agents are in same station. After you got the haulers (Badger in your case) you can use them
for hauling your stuff to your base.
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Nadja Hawk
Out of Pod Exploration
3
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Posted - 2016.01.27 15:01:53 -
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you can let someone like red frog freight haul your stuff if it is a lot.
in personal assets you can see where the stuff is at that you bought, and how far it is.
in the market window, sort it by location and the items in station/system will show at the top |
Memphis Baas
997
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Posted - 2016.01.27 16:16:04 -
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As it's been said, there is no teleportation in EVE; if you buy an item at station X, that's where it will be. The toolbar on the left (ingame) should have an Assets icon, that will list everything that you own everywhere, but you still have to go there to pick up the items.
If you want the items transported to you, you will have to open the Contracts interface and set up a Courier Contract, offering to pay someone to transport the stuff to you. The courier contracts are insured (you set up a collateral fee that is equal to the value of the item, and if the guy gets attacked and his ship blows up, that fee goes to you). They're also pretty cheap, considering the risk of transporting such items yourself (typically, for high-sec courier jobs, 150k ISK per solar system traversed).
This is why trade hubs exist; people go to Jita to buy everything because it's all in one place and they can buy a ship AND all its fittings there. Some regions, however, are remote and don't have a trade hub, so in that case you can either travel to a trade hub or buy from wherever it's available and go pick it up. Out in 0.0 space, the trade-oriented characters can make a huge profit by setting up trade hubs, because the area is so remote from Jita. Of course, they have to transport all the stock all the way to the middle of nowhere, past all the pirates along the way. It requires the higher end transport ships (jump freighters, cloaky transports, etc.). |
Thorian Baalnorn
Bad Influence
I N G L O R I O U S
38
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Posted - 2016.01.27 17:06:13 -
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The best thing to do is have a base of operation. This will be the station where you store most of your stuff. Though you will probably accumulate stuff in stations all over eve as you play. Usually your base of operations is where you run missions out of, the system you mine in the most, or maybe your corps home system in high sec. Then you make shopping trips to places like jita to buy the stuff you need, usually buying many things at once. This can be a stock on ammo or different fittings for different tasks. Its also where you will likely want to take your loot/ore/etc to sell it as trade hubs give better prices on buying junk and such. So getting an industrial ship and using it to take your loot /etc to the hub and then bring back what you need is a good system to have.
Shooting Structures = PVP Mining
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Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
95
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Posted - 2016.01.27 18:06:11 -
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Mako Naredi wrote:Very helpful! Thanks.
I guess once I get a hang of all the constellations and everything I'll decide on a "base station"... right now I basically have zero sense of location in the game lol... I guess this is normal?
This is normal. Remember nearly everything in EVE is player run, compared to other games. So in other games where your stuff can be automatically shipped to you (or just instantly appear somewhere else) in EVE that is a player run activity. There are groups of people who make all of their ISK doing nothing but running hauling services for other players.
The biggest trade hubs are in the systems of
Jita (largest by far)
Amarr (second largest)
Dodixie
Rens
Hek
Set up a home base somewhere near one of those, and once/twice a month or so take a hauling ship to drop off/sell in a trade hub as well as buy what you need. You will also generally get better prices in a hub than outside one, since prices are set by players as well. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13791
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Posted - 2016.01.27 18:54:52 -
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By the way.
don't fly anywhere with plex in your cargo.
don't put all of your belongings in one ship.
don't autopilot with a hauling ship with anything in the cargo.
don't autopilot.<----------emphasis on the "."
Better the Devil you know.
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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
6259
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:42:19 -
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Mako Naredi wrote:Hey all,
As some of you may know from my other thread, I am new to EVE, still screwing around in the trial.
So far I've been purchasing stuff via the marketplace (Probes, Probe Launchers, repair modules, etc). But I noticed that often times the things I was buying were located at other stations, sometimes multiple jumps away.
So I have 2 questions surrounding this.
1. Is there no way to buy things and have them "Shipped" to me, so that I don't need to make multiple jumps to pick them up?
2. When I pick them up, if I put them in my ships inventory, then jump and dock to another station, and put that item in my item hangar. Will I be able to access the items anywhere I dock? Or will it be left at that station, and every time I want to use it I need to go back there?
Your advice is much appreciated... I foresee it being weeks, maybe months before I can say I am comfortable with all of the game mechanics.
Cheers,
-Mako
Let's make EVE real (as it is), if you order something over the phone or internet, does it magically appear at your home? No, it has to be shipped there (or picked up by you). Same counts for EVE
1. You can "hire" other players to move stuff for you. Or you have to do it yourself.
Again, let's make EVE real. Say I have 2 houses (I don't cause I play EVE so don't have the money for it), if I leave my phone in house A, will I be able to use it in house B? Nope, same counts with EVE.
2. Each station has it's own inventory, what is in station A, is not in Station B. You have to bring it with you.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
6259
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:44:45 -
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Mako Naredi wrote:ISD Fractal wrote:1. Not exactly. You can buy something and create a courier contract and have someone ferry it around for you. However, if you buy items at stations other than the one that you are currently in, you will likely need to go fetch them yourself. You do get a pop up warning when you try to buy from something outside the current station, at least.
2. No, you can only access the items at the station where you left them.
You can use your assets screen (Alt-T by default I believe) to get an idea of where your stuff is. Most people set up some sort of base station somewhere where they keep their ships and items.
Hope that helps! :) Very helpful! Thanks. I guess once I get a hang of all the constellations and everything I'll decide on a "base station"... right now I basically have zero sense of location in the game lol... I guess this is normal?
VERY VERY normal actually
Hell, even after nearly 6 years, my stuff is still scattered around the galaxy. And I often had to move stuff when moving to my next "episode" in EVE. And I'm sure many many more will follow.
You either:
1. Keep moving stuff.
2. Live the nomadic life with minimal assets
3. Acknowledge the fact that your assets window is a mess and any person with OCD will get a heart attack seeing it
I'm at number 3 now
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Ginnie
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
89
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Posted - 2016.01.27 21:47:34 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:By the way.
don't fly anywhere with plex in your cargo.
don't put all of your belongings in one ship.
don't autopilot with a hauling ship with anything in the cargo.
don't autopilot.<----------emphasis on the "."
also , general advice for getting in and out of a trade hub in one piece :
do not believe a word you read in local unless its an insult , then its probably true.
(yes that "deal" is a scam , no he/she will not double your isk , its a scam , yes thats a scam too, and that also)
don't take anything from the undock , just don't , you will immediately explode i promise.
don't use the "trade window" with anyone you cant physically punch within the next 6 hours.
and this is the only circumstance under which i will say this ,
don't shoot at the russians.
Words to fly by
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. -Edgar Allan Poe
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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
6262
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Posted - 2016.01.27 22:44:37 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
and this is the only circumstance under which i will say this ,
don't shoot at the russians.
Ralph, If I sent you my bank account credentials, could you deposit some money.
I need a new keyboard, the current one is broken as it apparantly can't handle spilled coffee from laughing too hard.
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1114
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Posted - 2016.01.27 23:27:23 -
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I know the mechanics have been discussed in detail. I just wanted to point out to the OP that the market in Eve is a huge part of the game. The costs associated with having to get things to market are a huge part of that as well.
Without getting into too many details, let's just say that as you play the game you will begin to understand how complex this gets. Where you make things affects how much it costs to build them and the transportation costs figure into that whole mix. Coming up with an effective and efficient business model is a real thing in this game.
Being able to put something in one station and have access to it at all other stations would be literally game breaking. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1115
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Posted - 2016.01.28 02:25:09 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
and this is the only circumstance under which i will say this ,
don't shoot at the russians.
IDK about this one Ralph. I once was threatened to have our PoS's burnt down and our women raped by a russian. I sometimes think messing with the Russians is worth the funny ass **** that you get out of google translate from them. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13807
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Posted - 2016.01.28 09:29:49 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
and this is the only circumstance under which i will say this ,
don't shoot at the russians.
IDK about this one Ralph. I once was threatened to have our PoS's burnt down and our women raped by a russian. I sometimes think messing with the Russians is worth the funny ass **** that you get out of google translate from them.
oh i agree, literally anywhere else in space i would say you should make a point of it.
Better the Devil you know.
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Professor Humbert
Project Fruit House
Solyaris Chtonium
12
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Posted - 2016.01.28 12:40:15 -
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I'm surprised nobody has pointed this out yet..
OP: If you are unintentionally buying stuff located in some other stations than the one you are docked, it is because your buy order is ranged. i.e.; the item with the lowest selling price within your buy order range will be delivered at the price you specified.
Press the 'Advanced' button and adjust the Range and Duration as needed. |
Tiddle Jr
Brutor tribe
Minmatar Republic
756
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Posted - 2016.01.29 05:30:17 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:By the way.
don't fly anywhere with plex in your cargo.
don't put all of your belongings in one ship.
don't autopilot with a hauling ship with anything in the cargo.
don't autopilot.<----------emphasis on the "."
also , general advice for getting in and out of a trade hub in one piece :
do not believe a word you read in local unless its an insult , then its probably true.
(yes that "deal" is a scam , no he/she will not double your isk , its a scam , yes thats a scam too, and that also)
don't take anything from the undock , just don't , you will immediately explode i promise.
don't use the "trade window" with anyone you cant physically punch within the next 6 hours.
and this is the only circumstance under which i will say this ,
don't shoot at the russians.
I have just read a Holy Bible of New Eden. Bless you and Amen. Ralph the "Bishop"! |
Cherri Minoa
IronPig
Sev3rance
149
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Posted - 2016.01.29 12:40:38 -
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Probably obvious, but ...
If you use "View Market Details" rather than "Buy" you bring up the full interface.
You can then sort the items by price, number of jumps, and so on by clicking the column headers. You also have a settings option that you can use to further refine it - so if you wish you can limit it to current station only.
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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