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Jaden Brock
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:03:00 -
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I have been looking through the forums and have only found a couple of ships that are EW ships. Are there any Minmatar ships that can be used as dedicated EW ships? If so, how do you fit the thing?
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Jaden Brock
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:38:00 -
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Cant anyone help me on a good Minmatar ECM ship?
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari
VSP Corp.
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:44:00 -
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There is no good Minmatar ECM ship tbh
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Jaden Brock
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:50:00 -
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ummm....shoot at you?
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 30/01/2007 21:20:03
 Originally by: Jaden Brock
Cant anyone help me on a good Minmatar ECM ship?
There use to be a number of ships with good mid slots to be used as ECM ships. Like for example the 'Rapier'. You could fit 4 named Multispec ECM's to it and jam pretty much everyone decent or 100%. That is now nerfed so no luck there. ;)
There is DAMP's though and Tracking Disruptors. Just might as well throw ECM out the window. :)
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jaden Brock
ummm....shoot at you?
......That was his signature........
/me slaps Jaden with a wet fish
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Kery Nysell
Caldari
Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:31:00 -
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Errrr ... first of all, Electronic War does not equal ECM ...
ECM is the Caldari version of Electronic War ... if you want a jamming ship, you'll have to search in the Caldari ones (with the problem of the heavy nerf, too).
As far as I know, the only Minmatar ships with a bonus to a form of Electronic War are the Vigil (frigate) and the Bellicose (cruiser) ... and their bonus is for Target Painter (that's the Minmatar version of EW, wierd as it is).
I've used a Bellicose as a "support ship" for my corpmates in some missions (who were in their Caracals), fitted with 3 Heavy Launchers + 2 Artilleries (forgot the exact name) in highs, and AB and 3 target painters in meds and a really bad armor tank in lows (Med repper and 2 EANMs) ... with the 3 painters on a target, the Caracals could kill it really fast, but that was against NPC rats in lvl 3 missions ...
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Bal' Hed
Caldari
Brotherhood of Wolves
Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:34:00 -
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Doesn't the minnie force recon or combat recon have a bonus to webber range?
Originally by: MrTripps
How about Forum Drones? After you get popped they automatically log onto the forums and write a post demanding a nerf to whatever popped you.
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Kaathar Rielspar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
There use to be a number of ships with good mid slots to be used as ECM ships. Like for example the 'Rapier'. You could fit 4 named Multispec ECM's to it and jam pretty much everyone decent or 100%. That is now nerfed so no luck there. ;)
There is DAMP's though and Tracking Disruptors. Just might as well throw ECM out the window. :)
and i would have had you in my arbitrator if it wasn't for that damn ECM 
on topic:
these days, i'm finding ECM to be a bit "do or die". blackbird with a large cap battery and a rack of racials and a light (lol, 2 slot) armor tank USED to do ok. however, to get your jam strength up to anything respectable you need to sacrifice that "tank" by fitting two signal dispersion amps.
not that it matters in a fight anyway, BB's are always primaried 
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Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe
Originally by: Eximius Josari
If BS Sized HACs would be overpowered, what are HACs?
Overpriced Nos victims.
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Neuromandis
EPSILON TEAM
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:16:00 -
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Each race has an "EW" frigate, an "EW" cruiser and the two Recons, which are always the best at EW. All factions frig and cruiser get a bonus at the primary EW mode, and the recon ships also get a secondary ew mode. Caldari are the exception to all these rules, bacause a) they also have an EW battleship (scorpion) and b) they have no secondary EW mode, just the ECM jammers.
Minmatar ships: Primary: Target Painters, secondary: Webbers.
Caldari: ECM Jammers
Gallente: primary Sensor Dampeners, secondary warp Disruptors
Amarr: Primary tracking disruptors, secondary nosferatu
As target painters are not all that fantastic (though they CAN be plenty useful at times), and Jammers don't work well at all outside dedicated ships, you're better off either using one of the Recon ships when you are able to, or using Sensor Dampeners on whatever ship you feel like. I would at least start with the second option. You'll be plenty useful to a gang pretty fast that way.
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