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R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.01 01:23:00 - [91] Originally by: Alois Hammer Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Alois Hammer Originally by: Drakma No spies were used at all, there was no need to use spies at all. As far as DaReaper being a friend of a member of GEK, yes it's true; although nothing was passed between DaReaper and GEK at all. .........Lol ok......... Alois Hammer I hate to be cliche, but proof or stfu. proof??? ok...........lets see...im having a hard time to select just one case.....hmmmmm kk lets see hows this , aww..you know what screw it , ive post it already whats the truth , the fact your getting ****y is more than enough for me. if anyone here needs proof just ask any of the guys that were on the ops , im sure they are more than happy to give you evidence , that being said im now done talking to you Alois Hammer Ok, I will ask them. Who were those guys on the ops? _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
hottness	Posted - 2007.02.01 02:33:00 - [92] Edited by: hottness on 01/02/2007 02:29:28 Well, I know I had fun. This war didn't effect me so much, stayed in my POS and ratted in the local systems. I don't know how many times you guys chased me around. All in good fun!
Coasterbrian Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.01 03:03:00 - [93] It was an amusing contract, to say the least. Got a kick out of all the smack in local, because it kept camping systems in a ceptor from getting boring. I don't know why you claim we had a spy. We didn't. If you're referring to the instance where we nicked one of your towers, that's due to the fact that we have members who know how POSs work, and we happened to get lucky enough to spot a hauler removing the guns to a larger POS. We drew the logical conclusion, and decided to stick around for a bit to see if your alliance mate was silly enough to start an unanchoring cycle on a tower with hostiles in system. He was. I'm just mad that we weren't paying enough attention to nick the Tides of Silence tower as well, but we had other things on our minds at that particular moment. UK and ISS: Y'all weren't the primary targets in this contract, and we only engaged you after you engaged us on the first night we were active. We only popped into 9UY on occasion while looking for war targets that we had podded to their clones, and when we were really bored. We did not engage neutrals, excepting individuals in NPC corps and corps that had engaged us first. However, your blobs kept us on our toes, and occasionally gave us a good fight. BOS: Y'all got some learning to do. No disrespect meant, but don't pump yourselves up over the few kills you did get, and the occasions when we did take our leave rather hastily. I can only recall once that I saw your alliance sustain a camp by itself for any amount of time, and most of the time when you did get kills it was the result of one or two of your pilots being on a killmail with fourteen ISS/UK. You did make a showing, but our ratios would have been far higher against you had friends with far more manpower than us not been watching your back. Okay, polite and (relatively) politically correct quota filled for the day.
Leuthispar Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.01 03:22:00 - [94] Edited by: Leuthispar on 01/02/2007 03:19:42 Spies?? LOLZOR I think they mean all those deep safespots in Esa we probed their afkers in and bookmarked them and killed a few of their afkers in, and the time their gang warped to one of them to find us there waiting for them. Seriously no offense but you guys have a lot to learn and how the game works and you will see all the things that can be done without needing spies or w/e other excuses you come up with. Get your facts straight before you start making accusations and coming to conclusions without evidence, it just makes you guys look like ... well like I said im not gonna offend anyone. Anyways GF to those that brought it.
Nash Leigth Children of Azathoth Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.01 03:51:00 - [95] I believe there was an op after which people were saying that your gang was one step ahead all the time. That's where the spy rumors originated. I don't know the exact details, I wasn't on that op.
Dark Nemesis Gallente Children of Azathoth Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.01 04:55:00 - [96] Originally by: Leuthispar Edited by: Leuthispar on 01/02/2007 03:19:42 Spies?? LOLZOR I think they mean all those deep safespots in Esa we probed their afkers in and bookmarked them and killed a few of their afkers in, and the time their gang warped to one of them to find us there waiting for them. Seriously no offense but you guys have a lot to learn and how the game works and you will see all the things that can be done without needing spies or w/e other excuses you come up with. Get your facts straight before you start making accusations and coming to conclusions without evidence, it just makes you guys look like ... well like I said im not gonna offend anyone. Anyways GF to those that brought it. Most of the people that would be able to give detailed story of events from our side don't normally read the forums and only came to make a few remarks. Don't expect them to be back, I'm afraid you're probably wasting your time a bit thinking that they'll see it. As I said before, if you had spies - c'est la vie. I don't really care either way. I would never expect you to confirm that you had spies if it were indeed the case, so it's probably going to be a pointless argument and a lot of he said, she said type stuff. Congrats again to you all. /salute. nem
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.01 08:31:00 - [97] And during which dates did this contract take place?
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.02.01 08:32:00 - [98] Edited by: Splagada on 01/02/2007 08:29:36 hey now lol. we were one of the corps that left bos during this time if you want the whole story, there was a lack of vote in the first place when joining BOS. the corp was happy with the BOS guys, but wasnt happy not to have been asked first hand before joining them after 1 or 2 days and it was before GEK war, it was decided to leave. then GEK war came and we didnt want to leave ASAP, but wanted to try to help BOS for a little while. then we had a nice offer to relocate and we took it. but there was no bridges burnt with BOS. we had our issues and good things with some of the members, like with every group of people eh you can always listen to rumors or stretch facts, the only fact there is that BOS were and are friends, we left alliance but that's it, there was no relation with GEK back on topic, the gangs of GEK were really skilled. the solo players usually died, but in groups they were really organized and good and damn nano-command-ships ------
Stribog Caldari Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.01 09:38:00 - [99] I'd like to thank everyone for the good fights we had during the period of this contract. ------------------------
Magic Magician Caldari Perpetua Umbra Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.01 10:37:00 - [100] Originally by: Drakma Thanks to all of the BoS members for the funny local smack, you kept us entertained whilst you stayed docked. Sorry about that. There were a few people in alliance who just had to smack everyone they met... including their own alliance members. 'Nuff said. Thanks for bringing that topic up, we are making an effort to make sure that your gate camps down in our space will be a lot more boring
Cipher7 Nightgliders Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.01 13:09:00 - [101] BOS is a good crew, they got heart. Alot of the losses are from individual pilots getting too eager, not waiting for gang and losing ships. As far as Gek, I feel they were skilled opponents. I think fighting a strong crew just makes your own crew stronger and I think BOS has benefitted from the experience.
Cipher7 Nightgliders Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.01 13:09:00 - [102] BOS is a good crew, they got heart. Alot of the losses are from individual pilots getting too eager, not waiting for gang and losing ships. As far as Gek, I feel they were skilled opponents. I think fighting a strong crew just makes your own crew stronger and I think BOS has benefitted from the experience.
Nash Leigth Children of Azathoth Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.01 19:43:00 - [103] Just curious as to how you guys knew the exact number of corps that left the alliance during the conflict, especially since a few of those were inactive corps that have been bumped, so no one in the vicinity ever saw them. I am not sure how you can look that up unless you have a character in alliance or someone within the alliance who'd tell you this. As far as I know, there are no other ways that you could get this info. oh and yeah, daily bump! send'em a contract, or two, or three
Coasterbrian Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.01 20:14:00 - [104] Originally by: Nash Leigth Just curious as to how you guys knew the exact number of corps that left the alliance during the conflict, especially since a few of those were inactive corps that have been bumped, so no one in the vicinity ever saw them. I am not sure how you can look that up unless you have a character in alliance or someone within the alliance who'd tell you this. As far as I know, there are no other ways that you could get this info. oh and yeah, daily bump! send'em a contract, or two, or three When a corp leaves the alliance, we get a mail that says the corp surrendered and that the war will be over with said corp in 24 hours. That's how we know.
Leuthispar Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.02 02:41:00 - [105] Edited by: Leuthispar on 02/02/2007 02:38:18 Once again Nash you couldnt simply ask how did we find out? or even better you didnt try asking other corp/alliance m8s or reading the forums on how War Declarations work, you had jump to conclusions and make accusations and assumptions. Going back to my previous post, you need to learn how the game works before you talk, all your are doing is making an idiot out of yourself and making your corp and alliance look stupid. Not doing the tutorials FTL i guess. Next time try Asking Aurora
Cipher7 Nightgliders Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.02 03:11:00 - [106] Originally by: Leuthispar Edited by: Leuthispar on 02/02/2007 02:38:18 Once again Nash you couldnt simply ask how did we find out? or even better you didnt try asking other corp/alliance m8s or reading the forums on how War Declarations work, you had jump to conclusions and make accusations and assumptions. Going back to my previous post, you need to learn how the game works before you talk, all your are doing is making an idiot out of yourself and making your corp and alliance look stupid. Not doing the tutorials FTL i guess. Next time try Asking Aurora Class all the way.
Drakma Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.02 03:22:00 - [107] Originally by: Cipher7 Originally by: Leuthispar Edited by: Leuthispar on 02/02/2007 02:38:18 Once again Nash you couldnt simply ask how did we find out? or even better you didnt try asking other corp/alliance m8s or reading the forums on how War Declarations work, you had jump to conclusions and make accusations and assumptions. Going back to my previous post, you need to learn how the game works before you talk, all your are doing is making an idiot out of yourself and making your corp and alliance look stupid. Not doing the tutorials FTL i guess. Next time try Asking Aurora Class all the way. No, it's not and he knows better. My apologies. ----------------- Gekidoku is recruiting
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.02 03:54:00 - [108] Originally by: Canine Fiend This was also the first time I'd flown gallente ships in PVP, thanks for giving me the opportunity to try new things, maybe soon I'll try caldari, but never, ever amarr. (Sorry Waagaa) One day you will discover the master race. Your sister says "hi" by the way. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Drakma Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.02 04:03:00 - [109] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Canine Fiend This was also the first time I'd flown gallente ships in PVP, thanks for giving me the opportunity to try new things, maybe soon I'll try caldari, but never, ever amarr. (Sorry Waagaa) One day you will discover the master race. Your sister says "hi" by the way. That wasn't his sister, it was skully. ----------------- Gekidoku is recruiting
Leuthispar Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.02 04:16:00 - [110] Apologies to any player/party offended by my post, I was being the idiot this time and let my anger for being accused of using spies let the better of me and smack under the GEK flag. I started writing the post with the intent of giving advice to Nash but got carried away. Wether there was reason to be angry or not my conduct was unproffesional and unbecoming of a GEK member. As you can see by the post from our CEO that type of talk and action are not approved by him and well... I got my well deserved spanking..
Nash Leigth Children of Azathoth Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.02 07:31:00 - [111] Originally by: Leuthispar Edited by: Leuthispar on 02/02/2007 03:33:32 Edited by: Leuthispar on 02/02/2007 02:38:18 Once again Nash you couldnt simply ask how did we find out? or even better you didnt try asking other corp/alliance m8s or reading the forums on how War Declarations work, you had jump to conclusions and make accusations and assumptions. Going back to my previous post, you need to learn how the game works before you talk, all your are doing is making an dummy out of yourself and making your corp and alliance look bad. Edited to be a smack-free advice Actually if you read my posts you'd see I wasn't accusing you guys in anything of the sort. I said that there were rumors, as of course is with any war. In another post I jokingly referred to a possible spy, but made no serious accusations. So who is jumping to conclusions here? I am sorry that I am not able to browse the forums and read all the information on the whole of EVE at once, as per your satisfaction, Leuthispar. I decided to ask you guys this simple question instead of spending a lot of time trying to sift through info posted here. I received a good answer - thanks to the player who posted it. There was absolutely no need to turn that into an epeen rubbing contest of who knows how much about the game as I am sure you yourself, Leuthispar, do not know everything about EVE and occasionally even might ask others from EVE community questions here on the forums. I also do not understand why you got so angry thinking about spies as to start smacking on the forums someone asking a question in relation. Saying that so-and-so used services of a spy does not automatically equal to saying that this person is lame or anything of the sort. Any of us who do not have fragile egos comprehend that this does not warrant flaming over the forums. Especially that the CEO of your corporation has stated that it is not your business to bring on fair fights, but to fulfill any contract to the best of your customer's satisfaction, I see no reason for you to get upset.
Dark Nemesis Gallente Children of Azathoth Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.02 16:23:00 - [112] Edited by: Dark Nemesis on 02/02/2007 16:21:09 Edited by: Dark Nemesis on 02/02/2007 16:20:12 Originally by: Leuthispar Apologies to any player/party offended by my post, I was being the idiot this time and let my anger for being accused of using spies let the better of me and smack under the GEK flag. I started writing the post with the intent of giving advice to Nash but got carried away. Wether there was reason to be angry or not my conduct was unproffesional and unbecoming of a GEK member. As you can see by the post from our CEO that type of talk and action are not approved by him and well... I got my well deserved spanking.. Why would anyone really be offended about it? The only ones that truly come out of it bad is your corp and yourself if you read back to the nature of the original statements. (and even the reworked "advice" post.) Ironic huh? It's weird though, because when I think back to how classy nearly all of your guys have been in the face of some silly smacktalk in game, I figured you were all just like that as people. Guess I have some learning to do too. I can live with that. So d'you have to go perform Seppuku now? nem
Linium Without Reason FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.03 00:16:00 - [113] Gek, zomg you guys are so cool! Can i join? In all honesty your kill rate isn't impressive, BOS are not known for their PVP pwnage, to my knowledge they are a small industry/ratting alliance that operate in Providence. Big Deal :) I seen BOS tonight in full swing, looks like it didnt have much impact. BOS are a nice bunch of guys with real heart. So What?
Cinnander Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.03 17:11:00 - [114] Originally by: Dark Nemesis So d'you have to go perform Seppuku now? Nah it just means that for the next 2 weeks, he's on hauling duty for the ice mos. If he's really naughty, he gets put on mining duty. -x- It appeared to me that BOS learned a lesson or two very quickly after the war started - for instance I don't know if they expected the empire war dec to mean we'd be largely hunting around empire or what, but once we'd killed a bunch of your guys who were 'haphazardly' pottering around in 0.0, you mostly seemed to get the idea and the really easy kills almost dried up come the end. Hopefully your combat pilots enjoyed themselves even if wallets are worse for wear. I don't want to entice flames or name names but a few of your guys (I'm sure not a representative minority) were very vocal which kind of sucked for everyone in the same system as them, and a few others were doing rather lame things like using out of corp characters as bait, scanning alts, scouts etc. In 0.0 nothing is lost and respect would have remained if they'd been in the corp, as they're fair game either way. -x- Whoever wanted exact war dates, the exact start evades me at the moment (the relevant post on our forums merely states "2 weeks ago"). That war was later briefly retracted while GEK formed the PKS alliance with ourselves, and redclared on 2007.01.19 04:26. The final war retraction occurred at 2007.01.29 18:23 and it seems unofficially ran until midnight of the following day (i.e., until the end of the day during which the grace period expired). No hard feelings (you're back to neutral, I think) Regards -x- Faction gang mods, you say?
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.02.03 20:33:00 - [115] Originally by: Kai page Originally by: DrakmaThe following was stolen from them in addition to the above kills: 1 Small Amarr POS 1 Hulk[/quote Gj Gekidoku I see bos still havn't ;earned to stop offlining pos's when hostiles are about. true GJ Gekidoku ___________________________
Pouncer Minmatar Net 7 Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.03 21:40:00 - [116] Sigh... you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink... The first corp to do this is no longer with the alliance. The individuals responsible for the next two didn't even tell their own corpmates what they were doing, let alone the alliance. Needless to say, the replacement funds came entirely from their personal wallets, with no restitution from either their corp or the alliance. BOS is a rather freewheeling, darwinian sort of alliance, which is why pirate-style infestations of this type usually end up fighting our cruisers and frigates. The experienced BS and cap ship pilots tend to keep their powder dry for battles like this. BTW MassonA, It's interesting to note that BOS outlived your alliance, despite a K/L record on your part that was much better than GEK's.
Dark Nemesis Gallente Children of Azathoth Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.03 22:50:00 - [117] Originally by: Cinnander Originally by: Dark Nemesis So d'you have to go perform Seppuku now? Nah it just means that for the next 2 weeks, he's on hauling duty for the ice mos. If he's really naughty, he gets put on mining duty. Hehe. Guess as mercs you don't make that mistake twice if this is the punishment. :p -x- It appeared to me that BOS learned a lesson or two very quickly after the war started - for instance I don't know if they expected the empire war dec to mean we'd be largely hunting around empire or what, but once we'd killed a bunch of your guys who were 'haphazardly' pottering around in 0.0, you mostly seemed to get the idea and the really easy kills almost dried up come the end. Hopefully your combat pilots enjoyed themselves even if wallets are worse for wear. Yeah, as I said in a previous post, I think you did the alliance a favour to a fashion, because it finally was drummed in that giving up all those easy/free kills in empire playing by your rules (a wardec) was not the way to go. Quote: I don't want to entice flames or name names but a few of your guys (I'm sure not a representative minority) were very vocal which kind of sucked for everyone in the same system as them, and a few others were doing rather lame things like using out of corp characters as bait, scanning alts, scouts etc. In 0.0 nothing is lost and respect would have remained if they'd been in the corp, as they're fair game either way. I'm not going to be drawn into that myself. That will just go the same way as the spy issue and nothing is proven. And I'm no fan of smacking either. -x- Quote: Whoever wanted exact war dates, the exact start evades me at the moment (the relevant post on our forums merely states "2 weeks ago"). That war was later briefly retracted while GEK formed the PKS alliance with ourselves, and redclared on 2007.01.19 04:26. The final war retraction occurred at 2007.01.29 18:23 and it seems unofficially ran until midnight of the following day (i.e., until the end of the day during which the grace period expired). 16:01:2007 21:27 was the date/time Gek wardec'd us. I had seen 3 of your guys doing a scouting mission on the 15th into our space, and that ties up with the contract on your website saying it began on the 15th even though war didn't start then. Quote: No hard feelings (you're back to neutral, I think) Regards As I said before, all's fair in love and war. You gave us the war, now bring on the Geishas for that lovin' part will ya? :) nem.
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.02.03 23:03:00 - [118] Edited by: MassonA on 03/02/2007 23:00:53 Originally by: Pouncer Sigh... you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink... The first corp to do this is no longer with the alliance. The individuals responsible for the next two didn't even tell their own corpmates what they were doing, let alone the alliance. Needless to say, the replacement funds came entirely from their personal wallets, with no restitution from either their corp or the alliance. BOS is a rather freewheeling, darwinian sort of alliance, which is why pirate-style infestations of this type usually end up fighting our cruisers and frigates. The experienced BS and cap ship pilots tend to keep their powder dry for battles like this. BTW MassonA, It's interesting to note that BOS outlived your alliance, despite a K/L record on your part that was much better than GEK's. cheers ___________________________
Nash Leigth Children of Azathoth Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.02.05 01:39:00 - [119] Originally by: Dark Nemesis So d'you have to go perform Seppuku now? Cloning totally annuls seppuku. All the real Samurai in EVE have to fly around with the dishonour until they sell their characters or quit the account. Naturally, there are no real Samurai in EVE because who'd want to deal with this **? Originally by:** Cinnander I don't want to entice flames or name names but a few of your guys (I'm sure not a representative minority) were very vocal which kind of sucked for everyone in the same system as them, Since they were pretty vocal in general, even within the alliance, most of these peeps are out of alliance now. Apologies to anyone who had to be in the same system as them. I had a feeling that Leuthispar might have suffered most following his angry outbreak here, or may be he's uncool as a person just like that. Originally by: Cinnander and a few others were doing rather lame things like using out of corp characters as bait, scanning alts, scouts etc. I am not exactly sure where you guys draw the line of lame vs not lame. You stated that your objective was to fulfill the contract and bring satisfaction to your customer, to which end things like 1vs1 were discouraged, which you know some people on BOS side thought was lame. BOS objective was to defend against you, and sure there were some things done on BOS side that your side thought were lame too, which BOS peeps were resorting to in self-defense. Originally by: Cinnander No hard feelings (you're back to neutral, I think) No hard feelings if you guys kept it to figures and fighting in game. After your CEO made the initial post saying in essence that all of our members smack, when you knew it was just a few peeps, and threw some more distasteful comments in there, yeah there started to be some hard feelings. And no, it is not about standings, winning or losing. Even though I expected a post out of you guys, I thought it was in the best interests of mercs to stay neutral. Needless to say, I personally was surprised to see this. He goes on like this and you guys will start making more and more enemies for yourselves, which is bad for your business and quite silly imho. Originally by: Linium I seen BOS tonight in full swing, looks like it didnt have much impact. BOS are a nice bunch of guys with real heart. and we <3 you W--R guys too proudly losing our haulers and other ships to you, evading your gate camps, chasing your inties around, and depriving you of your ships since .. dunno, ever since i joined the alliance
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.05 07:28:00 - [120] Originally by: Morden Nok Originally by: Algey If you attack our allies you can expect to get attacked. You seem to consider UK your allies. Does this mean that ISS has set or will set CVA to -10 as CVA has war with UK. .... CVA also has friendly relations with IAC. Must be a CVA-noob post here. we dont drag in ooc-allies into the rp-war with CVA. We are blue to many entities, and we have asked none of them to assist against CVA. We dont ask shop, bos, io, sylph ... or anyone else to fight for us on the the holy frontier - hence i think the iss-uk standings is nothing to be commented by CVA in the shown manner. - it is not always easy, but it is beeing tried, to separate RP from non-rp wars. Otherwise we probably should start shooting ISS for having blue with CVA (at least they had blue at one point, oh - and IAC needs to shoot cva for having blue to iss - and u'k shoots sylph for having blue oh, and BoB shoots u'k for having ASCN blue... wow.. this is actually fun.. let me think further - i am sure i can complicate it in a entertaining manner with the result of everybody shooting everybody... haha... smartbombs SMARTBOMBS! lookimg weird to the left side SMARTBOMBS! SYKOSYS HELP..) - not sure if the point came across... Now you only need to learn the standing-dance for the forums too, and all be fine. U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webshosting

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