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Frikkoso
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Posted - 2007.01.31 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Frikkoso on 31/01/2007 13:58:18
I use the Ferox right now,and i think that it's more good with missiles,because it does more damages as the turret..
but In pvp the Ferox is very good also with turrets railgun(250mm t2)because you can sniper and shoot in a range of 120km!!
If you wont ratt, I think that the Ferox it's good with:
Hig Slots:
5xHeavy Missile Launcher
2xMedium Nosferatu II
Medium Slots:
1xLarge Shield Booster
1xShield Amplifier
1xInvuln Field II
2x Active Hardeners(i use kin&therm because i stay in a 0.0 with serpentis rats)
Low Slots:
4xBalistic Control(if you can Fitt all without mark I or co-processor)
But If you wont use Ferox in pvp,no problems:
Hig Slots:
5xDual 150mm prototype(with thorium it's so good)
2xMedium Nosferatu II
Medium Slots:
1xLarge SB
2xInvuln Field II
1xStatis Webfire
1xPrototype Sensor Booster
Low Slots:
1xCap Recharge
2xMagnetic Vortex
Nanofiber Internal I
In this case you have a bc that shoot quickly and that don't spend a lot of energy
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Bethany Brokatt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.01.31 13:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Frikkoso
Great post buddy !! 
It's best turrets IF you want to use it's bonus's. However tbh the ship sucks, if you really want to use it to it's full make use of the fact it has a large amount of powergrid  Asuuming you meant for PvP ? Would help if you actually had more than just a title.
Bethany
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Zekk Pacus
Caldari
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.01.31 13:59:00 -
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It's useful as a sniper in gangs, where you can get a decent optimal. 25km with antimatter, which means if you're facing close-ranged opponents you can sit off a bit and pick people off. But its damage isn't anything to write home about.
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Rumbaar
Solitary Forsaken
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Posted - 2007.02.01 00:16:00 -
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Train the 2-3 hours more, spend the 10-15m more and get a Drake!
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.02.01 02:38:00 -
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It sucks, it has pitafle damage, and you can't even attempt to maintain range with it.
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Bazman
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.01 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher
It sucks, it has pitafle damage, and you can't even attempt to maintain range with it.
Said by many a dead interceptor pilot ;)
Like most caldari, best used as firesupport. Shoot ze frigates
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Murtific
Caldari
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.01 05:05:00 -
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high:
5 x t2 heavy
1 x 150mm dual rail
1 x 250mm compressed
med:
20k scram
invul II
LSE II
LSE II
LSE II
low:
4 x SPR
out tank me plz...
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Lord Loom
Loom Service
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Posted - 2007.02.01 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Murtific
high:
5 x t2 heavy
1 x 150mm dual rail
1 x 250mm compressed
med:
20k scram
invul II
LSE II
LSE II
LSE II
low:
4 x SPR
out tank me plz...
fit the same on the drake, you get one more mid for whatever, two more launchers for more DPS - yes it's a little more expensive but more than worth its price. The Ferox is simply the worst of all battlecruisers now
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Gorion Wassenar
Caldari
Tsurokigaarai
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Posted - 2007.02.01 09:27:00 -
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Its a one trick pony that is only good for sniping any nothing else. Its even barely tolerable at that too.
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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.02.01 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman
Originally by: Audri Fisher
It sucks, it has pitafle damage, and you can't even attempt to maintain range with it.
Said by many a dead interceptor pilot ;)
Like most caldari, best used as firesupport. Shoot ze frigates
But dont forget to use those two extra high slots to run gang mods in.
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.01 10:51:00 -
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Don't bother with the Ferox at all. It isn't good with either. Saying it's good as 'support' is just another way of saying it isn't very good. I've made my point on other threads so many times that I won't bother anymore, but if you want hybrids, go Brutix, if missiles go Drake.
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Kery Nysell
Caldari
Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.01 11:07:00 -
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In PvP ? No idea ...
In PvE ? Well, it works quite nicely for lvl 3 missions with a passive tank, 5x250mms + 2xassault launchers (used with your 5 Light Drones to kill the frigs), but of course the Drake is even better at that ... it's a nice change from the "fire and forget" approach of the missiles, you have to think a bit about optimal, fall off, transversal and all that
By the way, I've tried both a missile-Ferox and a rail-Ferox, and the damage dealt is dependent on your skills ... I have better Gunnery skills than Missiles skills, and my missile-Ferox does maybe two-third of the damage of my rail-Ferox ...
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Franconis
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Posted - 2007.02.01 11:38:00 -
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Try this gang pvp setup, it's quite fun.
Highs:
5x 250mm Rail IIs
2x Drone link augmentor
Mids:
1x 10mn MWD
3x Sensor Damps (T1 is good enough, but muons or T2 is preferred)
1x Sensor Booster II or best named sensor booster
Lows:
2x Mag stab II
2x nano II or tracking enhancer II
Drone Bay:
5x Warrior II
The idea of this build is to snipe frigs/cruisers in a gang. You need to stand off at about 120-150km. If anyone even starts approaching you, damp them to hell, switch your target to that guy, and mwd in the other direction. If he gets within 85km, let your warrior IIs chew him up a bit and keep shooting. at 50km, make sure you're aligned. at about 30-35km, warp out. If you do it right, you shouldn't be hit at all by most ships, and you have a great chance of killing them before they get too close. I chose sensor damps because they don't have a chance to hit, and they work better the closer your opponent gets. They may still be able to target something, but with 3 damps they probably can't target you.
Flame on.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.02.01 11:44:00 -
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As it stands now the ferox is no match for the drake - they are grossly unbalanced (the drake being too powerful IMO)
Take off one missile slot from the drake and add it as a turret hardpoint to the ferox - that'll bring it back on par. BTW, has anyone tried a blaster-ferox with MWD, light tank and speed mods? It gets a very good optimal on med neutrons and has the grid to fit them along with some nos.
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JTKevin89
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2007.02.01 12:28:00 -
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sniper fit ferox ftw!
hi:
5 250mm II
2 assault launchers II
mids:
3 sensor booster II
2 tracking comp II
low:
3 magstab II
1 tracking enhancer II
5 warrior II
w/ spike i can shoot with this bad boy at 150-180 k w/ very nice damage.
as soon as u doubt a ferox with turrets on it th sooner u die!
if u fit a uber tank i fit a mwd, lar shield boster II, cap injector and full set of T2 neutron blasters.
note: 1. i prefer a vulture
2. tht emplies i also hav BC 5
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kill0rbunny
Caldari
Chimera Intelligence Agency
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Posted - 2007.02.01 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
As it stands now the ferox is no match for the drake - they are grossly unbalanced (the drake being too powerful IMO)
Take off one missile slot from the drake and add it as a turret hardpoint to the ferox - that'll bring it back on par. BTW, has anyone tried a blaster-ferox with MWD, light tank and speed mods? It gets a very good optimal on med neutrons and has the grid to fit them along with some nos.
What? Stfu
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JTKevin89
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2007.02.01 12:48:00 -
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well my neutron ferox has beat the ass off all the drake piolets in my corp ^^
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:16:00 -
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As other people have said really.
If you are looking for...
...missile boat.
...ability to choose damage types.
...a high damage per second.
...a decent tank.
...then just go straight for a Drake, there's no point in staying with a Ferox.
However, if you want...
...rail boat.
...instant damage.
...ability to hit >70km (max range of heavy missiles).
...a higher rate of fire.
...a wider range of roles (eg. more ways of setting a ship up)
...then stick with the Ferox.
Ferox with rails can work quite well, the '5x rails' is equivalent of the '4x rails + damage bonus' of the Moa. The range bonus to blasters can be fairly scary for interceptors, and the ability of rails to hit out to 150km with T1 equipment makes it a decent sniping platform.
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JTKevin89
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:18:00 -
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vulture ftw
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny
What? Stfu
The drake is fine as it is. Ferox is just living so that the nighthawk has a base model.
Not gonna 'stfu' as you so eloquently put it. Try using decent language on these forums.
It seems pretty clear that as it is now with the drake, Caldari have just been given another raven-like mission ship which is just too overpowered for it's role. Do some comparisons with command ships and you will also find that it is just fielding a tank too heavy for it's class.
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Lord Loom
Loom Service
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Posted - 2007.02.01 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
[...]Ferox with rails can work quite well, the '5x rails' is equivalent of the '4x rails + damage bonus' of the Moa. The range bonus to blasters can be fairly scary for interceptors, and the ability of rails to hit out to 150km with T1 equipment makes it a decent sniping platform.
too bad most if not all of the other battlecruisers one up cruisers in terms of damage and not just tank, while the Ferox is what, a heavier tanked substitute for the Moa which is already gimped in the damage department? Not trying to troll/flame, just asking, because I really don't get what CCP's intention is with the Ferox if I look at ships of the same class like the Brutix, Myrmidon, etc. (yes you can turn it into a sniper, but I'm looking for a more generally useful role)
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JTKevin89
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2007.02.01 14:47:00 -
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imo it needs beefing into a turret boat
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.01 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 01/02/2007 15:03:41
Set it up exclusively as a long range gunboat and its basically a slow Eagle with a crap tank.
You need to devote everything to damage, tracking and sensor boosting for it to actually be a good gunship. There is no room to take advantage of its 'uber' tank if you want to kill anything with guns.
Give it an extra turret and/or a tracking bonus so it can make better use of its mides and lows.
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Bronson Hughes
Caldari
Knights of the Wild
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Posted - 2007.02.01 16:43:00 -
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I view the Ferox as a 'Jack of all Trades' Battlecruiser. While people may not think it really shines as a rail boat or a blaster boat or a missile boat, the fact that it can do all three pretty well in one hull makes it valuable for players on a budget.
I fly a rail-fitted Ferox on level III missions, mostly against Guristas. I think it does really well: I have a decent tank and I can make quick work of any level III ship at optimal range. If I take a Sansha's or Blood Raider mission, I just swap out some of the rails for more heavy launchers so I can load up on EM damage and drop the rails back in when I'm done. What other ship can do that?
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