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Barashi Nugan
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Posted - 2007.02.01 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Barashi Nugan on 01/02/2007 09:12:38
For the love of god, PLEASE at least make an attempt to settle a ransom of some poor smuck you've gatecamped.
If the guy is in a low-level Indy ship and is only carrying a few crappy-low end items, then you could very well make much more money off the situation than ganking him and running off with 100k worth of loot.
To the guy in Ham at around 2:45 AM Central Time, I would have paid you 100x more than what you looted from my pathetic ship, had you simply asked instead of taking me out in 5 seconds.
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That is all. Thank you.
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Gileas
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.02.01 09:27:00 -
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Or you might have been carrying billions in T2 BPOs and got away if he stalled even a moment. I think that's the scenario most of these guys are working from.
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Logi3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.01 09:32:00 -
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Next time, before uncloaking say in local your willing to pay a ransom....
(I was'nt in HAM, just giving advise)
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Alumion
Amarr
Dragons of the Twilight Sun
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Posted - 2007.02.01 10:12:00 -
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Gatecamping don't mix well with ransoming
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.02.01 12:12:00 -
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it's not all about the money dude. it's about haivng fun. and explosions are fun, simple.
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Masochistic Cannibal
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.02.01 12:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Barashi Nugan
Edited by: Barashi Nugan on 01/02/2007 09:12:38
For the love of god, PLEASE at least make an attempt to settle a ransom of some poor smuck you've gatecamped.
If the guy is in a low-level Indy ship and is only carrying a few crappy-low end items, then you could very well make much more money off the situation than ganking him and running off with 100k worth of loot.
To the guy in Ham at around 2:45 AM Central Time, I would have paid you 100x more than what you looted from my pathetic ship, had you simply asked instead of taking me out in 5 seconds.
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That is all. Thank you.
In the past i've killed numerous under a month old players with hold full of Vitok. If I had ransomed them I would probably have asked for around 5mill given their age....
Pop them open and stand to gain 100mill ? or take 5. I was allways more of a gambler myself.
Cannibal
I eat babies ! [Hauling services available~ Contact ingame] |
Tisanta
Amarr
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:06:00 -
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its because we can.. simple as that
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Logi3
Next time, before uncloaking say in local your willing to pay a ransom....
(I was'nt in HAM, just giving advise)
Anyone who screams for ransom usually carries juicy loot. ^^
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Drygon WindRynner
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:19:00 -
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Ham? that whole area is filled with lazy pirates. Can't believe you got caught. |
VIctoria Ballentyne
Minmatar
Pale Riders Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.01 14:43:00 -
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Barashi, you can't teach people who gate camp to listen to reason. They will put forward any number of reasons why they blew you up and didn't accept a ransom from Oh I didn't hear you to if you ask for ransom you must be carrying phat lewt, or simply stfu noob and explode.... yes I got that one once.... and will pod for many of hte same reasons.
On the fun side though it is possible to trap the gate campers by using a disposable cruiser with a good tank to keep the sad campers busy while you come in the other gate and blow the air out of them. Gate camp loot ftw.
"Forbid a man to think for himself or to act for himself and you may add the joy of piracy and the zest of smuggling to his life"
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr
Pirates of Destruction Union
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Posted - 2007.02.01 16:38:00 -
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@OP:
Tell your industrial friends to start paying ransoms, and you might see more ransoms being executed.
Just a thought...
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.01 18:04:00 -
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Rule #1 of gate camping: If it ain't blue turn it to goo (unless its a frieghter then you ransom the frieghter because they don't drop loot)
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Barashi Nugan
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Posted - 2007.02.01 18:38:00 -
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Don't most gatecampers carry a scanner to probe the ship before ganking them? And if you've warp-scrammed someone to hell and back, and they're in a low-level Iteron III, why the heck would you think they were going anywhere? I was jammed about 3 seconds after uncloaking.
I'm not really angry about it, just ticked at the situation. I know it's part of the game, and I accept that, just trying to find some kind of reasoning here...but maybe that's the problem.
The strange thing is he responded to my request to stop and talk, but only about 3 seconds before he popped me, lol. Seems like he would have accepted ransom if I had the chance to actually offer it.
As I said, it wasn't the items so much as the time I had spent running around to get them. I'm still a rookie and decided to buy all the things I needed based off of how many hops they were from the Ham area...which then made me jump 40+ jumps all over the place to pick them up. I've learned now that I should just head to a trading "hub" so I don't have to run through 20 lowsec places.
Anyways, to all the pirates out there: If you see Barashi Nugan bobbing around, please know what he's NOT carrying anything too special, and would most likely pay a ransom as opposed to losing 6 hours of work.
Thanks. ;)
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Plaetean
Blood Sweat and Tears
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Posted - 2007.02.01 18:41:00 -
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lol ransom a hauler? Haulers are the pinatas of eve 
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.01 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Barashi Nugan
Blah blah don't shoot
Cargo scanners are a waste of a midslot in gate camping 
Half Assed Rhymage |
deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.02.01 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Plaetean
lol ransom a hauler? Haulers are the pinatas of eve
space pinatas ftw
That said, making you explode and whine on the forums is often a reward greater than the entire contents of your wallet.
Low skillpoint Rifter piracy: Linkage |
Saint Battalion
Decepticons of War
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Posted - 2007.02.01 20:39:00 -
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If people paid ransoms anymore it may be worthwhile, but alas the corpse in my meatlocker will have to do for now.
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Durethia
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.01 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Barashi Nugan
Edited by: Barashi Nugan on 01/02/2007 09:12:38
For the love of god, PLEASE at least make an attempt to settle a ransom of some poor smuck you've gatecamped.
OK, here we go....
I have well over a billion in the wallet. A neutral warps in in a nice BS, all alone. Maybe he might give me 50 million isk... which would have to be split amongst us 0.0 pilots... so we get maybe 10-5 million isk each. We might as well hit a few belts and make that much and return after a few minutes.
Kill the BS! And have your killboard ratings improve a few points! \o/
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Samirol
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.01 23:41:00 -
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gatecamping + ransoming = bad
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.02.02 04:51:00 -
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Don't most gatecampers carry a scanner to probe the ship before ganking them?
Honestly? No. Why waste the slot, when there is little enough space for your tank/tackle already. And honestly, there is no need for a cargo scanner, because the camping pirates are going to blow everything up that comes through that gate. Gate camps are all about loot. The only ship you might ransom is a Freighter, because they don't drop loot.
If you are old enough to have implants worth anything, you might (if your pod doesn't get away) be offered a ransom after you've been popped.
And if you've warp-scrammed someone to hell and back, and they're in a low-level Iteron III, why the heck would you think they were going anywhere? I was jammed about 3 seconds after uncloaking.
See above. Pirates camping a gate are only interested in the loot in your hauler, and plenty of good stuff can be carried in an Iteron III. Also, why would they wait around after they've scramed you. Every minute you're alive is a minute another hauler can jump in, and get away (possibly) because they all have their points on you.
-Karlemgne
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari
VSP Corp.
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.02 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
it's not all about the money dude. it's about haivng fun. and explosions are fun, simple.
DE
QFT
Yeah I am a pirate.What are you gonna do about it? |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
gatecamping + ransoming = bad
But freighters don't drop loot 
Half Assed Rhymage
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Slaughterford
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Posted - 2007.02.02 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Barashi Nugan
For the love of god, PLEASE at least make an attempt to settle a ransom of some poor smuck you've gatecamped.
No. Take the risk or avoid it.
Though I personally hate gatecamps (its like fishing - and I HATE fishing), there would be nothing to complain if you'd sit in your warm high sec where every gate is guarded by concord.
It has something to do with wearing womens clothes also, if I'm correct.
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Chick M8
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Posted - 2007.02.02 08:54:00 -
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You can debate the issue till a new worm hole appears.It is really quite simple mechanics. Pirates try to make you go boom, you try to stick your tongue at them as your warp to o to the next gank free gate 
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Ridley Tree
The Black Rabbits
Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.02.02 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Barashi Nugan
Edited by: Barashi Nugan on 01/02/2007 09:12:38
For the love of god, PLEASE at least make an attempt to settle a ransom of some poor smuck you've gatecamped.
If the guy is in a low-level Indy ship and is only carrying a few crappy-low end items, then you could very well make much more money off the situation than ganking him and running off with 100k worth of loot.
To the guy in Ham at around 2:45 AM Central Time, I would have paid you 100x more than what you looted from my pathetic ship, had you simply asked instead of taking me out in 5 seconds.
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That is all. Thank you.
Unless there is a large gang with at least 5 webs, preferably more, no one is going to waste time trying to ransom you because you will be able to get on the gate and jump before a ransom deal finishes. And in a gang large enough to have 5 webs on you, they're likely doing enough damage that by the time 'call it off I'm ransoming' is heard its already too late.
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