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Wanoah Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.11 13:09:00 - [31] It seems that I haven't received an invitation. Never mind, just give me the location and me and a few buddies will just come and gatecrash, ok?
Aran Cole Minmatar The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.02.11 19:48:00 - [32] Originally by: Jack Malus Originally by: Kra RA Goodness of Amarr see no limits. I'll send a masage to my univesity mates in federation about their oportunity. Not all are so lucy as i am to become a captins of Amarr Empire. You are fooling yourself. You will never be more than a slave to your masters, to be toyed with and then discarded when you no longer amuse them. Kra is a capable pilot and is dedicated to God and the Empire; he is far from a slave. _______________________
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.02.12 01:39:00 - [33] Freedom is the right for an individual to do his duty to the State as he or she can. Why should anyone criticize the Ammatar for taking the opportunity to make themselves the strongest of the Minmatar tribes? With the crumbling Minmatar "Republic" the strongest tribe will emerge to rule them all and at the moment that is the Ammatar.
Dominus1 Gallente Trojan Ink	Posted - 2007.02.12 04:20:00 - [34] Originally by: Wanoah It seems that I haven't received an invitation. Never mind, just give me the location and me and a few buddies will just come and gatecrash, ok? Heck, I'll help. Dominus Causing trouble as best I can!
PYROPHIS INTAKI UNION The OSS	Posted - 2007.02.13 18:41:00 - [35] Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Quote: grease the right palms and the Federation will sell their babies with a smile and a free can of quafe. You want to wager whether Archbishop can get a Station in 0.7 space? Originally by: Archbishop Quote: Indeed. Whereas the Amarrians would never capitulate to such temptations the Gallente Federation representative we met with was more than happy to enjoy our tour of the SPCS facilities and subsequently enjoyed a two night stay at the RitzPax resort on Tash Murkon Prime so he would be well rested on his return trip home. I am anticipating little difficulty obtaining the final approval for a .7 placement although .6 may be required due to recent jumpgate alignment changes. Knowing though that such a beacon of hope is there lighting the night should warm the heart of all Gallente. Archbishop If there was any doubt as to the depths the Gallente Federation has fallen all one has to do is observe the sellout of the masses by the Politicians "Looking out for their best interests." And people wonder why we want the Intaki free of their corrupting influence. PYRO Tarsha Listur - 2006.11.19 - Quote: The scary thing about IU isn't what they preach, its that they believe it..
Saikoyu Amarr Rho Dynamics	Posted - 2007.02.15 08:15:00 - [36] I find that I can no longer sit by while this goes on. A 20 million Isk bounty on the location of Port Sanctuary will be paid by me to whoever offers graphic proof of the location. Any flight recorder image will do, and contact can be made by eve-mail. As for the honorable Archbishop, I will give you the following advice. Leave Gallente space now. I suggest that you look to "improve" yourself, before you try to do the same to others.
Cmdr Baxter Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.02.15 08:33:00 - [37] Edited by: Cmdr Baxter on 15/02/2007 08:33:06 Originally by: Saikoyu I find that I can no longer sit by while this goes on. A 20 million Isk bounty on the location of Port Sanctuary will be paid by me to whoever offers graphic proof of the location. Any flight recorder image will do, and contact can be made by eve-mail. As for the honorable Archbishop, I will give you the following advice. Leave Gallente space now. I suggest that you look to "improve" yourself, before you try to do the same to others. Vigilante action was never approved within the Amarrian Kingdoms. And it most certainly was never approved within the Gallente Federation. So what gives you, a foreign national, the right to simply barge in on the affairs that have already been approved by a legitimate government? Not only are you barging in on their internal proceedings with little (if any) respect for the already-existing government and its various entities, but you're overtly threatening the sovereignty and national security of the Gallente Federation. If the Gallente were looking for any excuse to protest louder than ever over Port Sanctuary, you have surely provided it to them while condoning attacks on Amarrian nationals. Which in turn establishes a broader precedent for targeted assassinations, public bombings, terrorist attacks, et cetera. _________________________________ Lt. (j.g.) Sionell "Commander" Baxter This post should not be considered an official statement of CAIN unless stated.
Vendrin Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.02.15 08:36:00 - [38] While I admire your business savvy in getting a deal like this Archbishop, you should keep the Empire's customs in the Empire, where they belong. _____________________________________ APEX Unlimited is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Saikoyu Amarr Rho Dynamics	Posted - 2007.02.15 20:00:00 - [39] Originally by: Cmdr Baxter Edited by: Cmdr Baxter on 15/02/2007 08:33:06 Vigilante action was never approved within the Amarrian Kingdoms. And it most certainly was never approved within the Gallente Federation. So what gives you, a foreign national, the right to simply barge in on the affairs that have already been approved by a legitimate government? Not only are you barging in on their internal proceedings with little (if any) respect for the already-existing government and its various entities, but you're overtly threatening the sovereignty and national security of the Gallente Federation. If the Gallente were looking for any excuse to protest louder than ever over Port Sanctuary, you have surely provided it to them while condoning attacks on Amarrian nationals. Which in turn establishes a broader precedent for targeted assassinations, public bombings, terrorist attacks, et cetera. First I feel that I should clarify my status, for you to decide if foreign national is truly the right word. I have lived in the Gallente Federation for quite some time now, and consider myself a resident of the area. I have worked with a Gallente corporation, and now run one, and regularly fly for the Gallente government. Besides being born Gallente, I see no other way I could be more a resident of the area. And yes, I am intruding on the affairs of the Gallente Federation if you wish to call it that. This is done every day in every empire there is. I have simply decided that I shall no longer follow the lead of others and shall strike my own path. Until and unless the Gallente Federation is willing to enforce their own laws on slavery, I will be more than willing to do this for them. And if this causes more protests over Port Sanctuary, I will be glad of it. I do not care if this act brands me as a terrorist, traitor, or criminal, if it means that at least some free people will not become slaves. You may not believe me, but I truly wish that I would not have to condone attacks on Amarrians, on my own people, perhaps even those I know. But I see slavery as wrong, and if the only way to enforce that view, even in empires that outlaw it, is with force, then so be it.
Drethon Gallente Knights Hospitalier	Posted - 2007.02.15 20:42:00 - [40] Originally by: PYROPHIS If there was any doubt as to the depths the Gallente Federation has fallen all one has to do is observe the sellout of the masses by the Politicians "Looking out for their best interests." And people wonder why we want the Intaki free of their corrupting influence. There is no reason why an Amarr cannot set up an outpost in Federation space. The entire basis of the Federation is being open to anything that does not oppress our citizens. I welcome this station with a warning that if they break our laws I will assist the Navy in escorting them out of our space but if they are willing to act as proper Federation citizens I hope their time is long and prosperous.
Dominus1 Gallente Trojan Ink	Posted - 2007.02.15 22:03:00 - [41] Originally by: Drethon Originally by: PYROPHIS If there was any doubt as to the depths the Gallente Federation has fallen all one has to do is observe the sellout of the masses by the Politicians "Looking out for their best interests." And people wonder why we want the Intaki free of their corrupting influence. There is no reason why an Amarr cannot set up an outpost in Federation space. The entire basis of the Federation is being open to anything that does not oppress our citizens. I welcome this station with a warning that if they break our laws I will assist the Navy in escorting them out of our space but if they are willing to act as proper Federation citizens I hope their time is long and prosperous. The question is would the Amarr extend the same courtesy to us? Dominus Causing trouble as best I can!
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.02.17 06:37:00 - [42] The Amarr empire has its own laws. One of the things there is very little respect for is the rule of law. Gallente law allows anyone who wishes to express his/her opinion to do so. Amarr law does not. So to answer your question, no the amarr would not allow anyone to set up a slave freeing station within their space and it is their right to do so, just as the Gallente have the right to allow an Amarr slave training station.
Reiaandra Ilin	Posted - 2007.02.17 20:15:00 - [43] I have a question. I am only relatively young and I may be naive. But how can you claim to treat them fairly when you speak of them like dogs? The respect you give in your speech normally reflects the respect in your actions. The young Gallente citizens, are they more than just heathens to be converted? If you truly believe the Gallente need saving then help the young and send them back to help the Gallente civilization. By teaching them and sending them back you can successfully help them to step away from their ((supposed)) heathen ways. Unless, you are trying to destroy them. Then continue what you are doing and you will eventually succeed. Unless the Gallente fight back. I have nothing against the Gallente. The statement of the Archbishop just hit a chord.
Venitas	Posted - 2007.02.18 12:31:00 - [44] Originally by: Vendrin While I admire your business savvy in getting a deal like this Archbishop, you should keep the Empire's customs in the Empire, where they belong. It is amazing, how simple cultural bias can colour a view. If the Gallente were to build, say, a center for immigration within the Amarr borders, would anyone say a word? Why, most of you would likely cheer them on; never mind that most of those who partake of it's services would enter the Gallente society as paupers, eking out existences in servile positions, really no better than slaves anyway as they grasp desperately at whatever straws they may find to allow future generations to transcend their status. Yet the blessed Archbishop does no different; yet because one typically enters the glorius Empire as a slave rather than a pauper... there is uproar. Yet those who make use of this opportunity do no different from the hypothetical immigration center; they accept lives of servitude with the knowledge that enlightenment and the grace of God will grant future generations the opportunity to transcend their status. As my family did, ages ago; as, presumably, Aran Cole's ancestors have done.

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