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Kyle Fr'eak
Various Solutions Inc.
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Fr''eak on 02/02/2007 14:27:47
I found a nice Post on Outbreak Killboard...
Outbreak Killboard
Trinity Faetal: 2007-01-29 07:35:06
Dear Trinity Faetal,
A salvage operation recently recovered your "Machariel" class ship from a debris field in "M-OEE8".
thanks goes to our GM friends in BoB and MC
Take a look on the comments. I heard about GMs playing for BoB in many other forums. If this is not only a choke, i will give up playing eve. And i think i wont be the only one.
CCP please put out a statement...
Kyle Fr'eak
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Boci
The Legion.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:35:00 -
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First: yes, GMs/Devs play this game. No, noone knows their play name (the moment someone does, they lose the character forever) They could be in BoB, your corp, my corp, privateers, uncorped. We would never know.
Second: If a GM/Dev did anything outside of the rules/regulations CCP has put in place for them to follow, it would likely cost them their job.
Third: the "bob are gms!!11!1one!" crap was old about 3 minutes after the first person who ever thought it said the words.
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BloodSuxx
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:36:00 -
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Thats Game play????? fair dont play??? NOOO .....
Thtas a way to give up playing eve too!!!!!!!!!!!
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Riho
Red Wrath
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:36:00 -
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if thats true... wahts the point playing enymore :P
but i think its more of a flame starter :P
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DarkFenix
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:39:00 -
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Most obvious flamebait topic I've seen in a while. IBTL!
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BloodSuxx
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:41:00 -
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Dear Trinity Faetal,
A salvage operation recently recovered your "Machariel" class ship from a debris field in "M-OEE8".
thanks goes to our GM friends in BoB and MC
can u read this ????? <<<< Thtas no flame tahts bul****
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Kyle Fr'eak
Edited by: Kyle Fr''eak on 02/02/2007 14:27:47
I found a nice Post on Outbreak Killboard...
Outbreak Killboard
Trinity Faetal: 2007-01-29 07:35:06
Dear Trinity Faetal,
A salvage operation recently recovered your "Machariel" class ship from a debris field in "M-OEE8".
thanks goes to our GM friends in BoB and MC
Take a look on the comments. I heard about GMs playing for BoB in many other forums. If this is not only a choke, i will give up playing eve. And i think i wont be the only one.
CCP please put out a statement...
Kyle Fr'eak
GMs are allowed to play. By the law of averages, some will be playing in the BoB alliance. There is only an issue if they are abusing their GM powers on behalf of the alliance they play in.
The post you posted is suggestive - assuming that it is both complete & verbatim - but hardly proof of wrongdoing.
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Strange Guy
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:44:00 -
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Did you ever stop to think it could be faked?
People always seem to assume the best corps/guilds/alliances hack, cheat, exploit, or have dev/gm help. Even if they have no true proof, they will make up "proof" to try and make them look bad.
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Herculite
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:44:00 -
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Looks like left wing political tactics have reached EvE.
If you can't beat them, smear them until everything thinks they are as bad as you say they are.
The problem with this is there are no elections in EvE and no matter what you think about someone they can still shoot you.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:44:00 -
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Flamebait or not, this whole affair is massive. Either a) it happens or b) people are prepared to go to great lengths out of game to make such things appear true to gain an advantage inside Eve.
Whichever the case turns out to be, it is clear that alliance style warfare has gone beyond the realms of normal game play, and it is difficult to see how getting involved in 0.0 play is in any way fair or fun within the confines of what I perceive as a game. To the people who want to employ the level of extragame activity that has been brought to bare, all of this may seem like an extremely good game to them, and I can't really criticise them for it.
On the face of it, for eve, that leaves me with highsec industrialism, and low sec gank squadding, both of which have limited appeal.
However Eve is unique in that I can resort to less usual gaming, like corp thieving, subterfuge, scamming and other such psychological games rather than space shooting. It may not spell the end of my Eve career, but it sure has altered my perception of what I was intending to do, and overnight as well. It's a sad day whatever the outcome, and at this time, I can't tell what the outcome means for me and my Eve subscription.
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Aelena Thraant
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:45:00 -
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Ok 1st of all... Do you believe everything you read on the Internet? 2nd of all... ANYONE can enter that comment.... and you have to have a KB password as well to do that. I'm sure it was someone from outbreak that entered that or someone that generally hates BoB that has the password. If BoB really had a GM giving ships back... You think they would post it lol
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Szprinkoth Sponsz
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:46:00 -
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1. Everyone knows devs and GMs = BoB
2. Everyone knows MC = BoB
3. Thus, getting info from BoB/MC = Secret insider info from CCP
OBV 
Am I the only one who could spot the sarcasm in that comment? Get yer tinfoil hats off yer heads, they're obstructing your vision. 
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Dra0cht
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:46:00 -
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If BoD, or any other alliance, has been getting 'assistance' from GMs/DEVs, then heads need to roll, both within CCP and alliances, and the process used to uncover any cheating needs to be made public, and this process needs to deliver results pretty soon.
I've been playing EVE for > 3 years now, and I've recommended it to everyone who shows any interest in gaming, several of whom have indeed signed up. Unless the process of investigation comes to conclusions quickly I'll be cancelling, and I'll also recommend to everyone I know to review whether they wish to continue playing EVE.
If thats not worth discussing openly I really don't know what is, so unless you can come up with something better than 'don't talk about it, its being investigated, and all who do discuss it are anti-CCP flamers' then I suggest its you who don't post, as CCP are the people who need to respond not the 1 single alliance that appears to have gained from and cheating.
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Buxaroo
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:47:00 -
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FFS, talk about beating a deadhorse!
Come on, get a grip. I have heard these accusations sense I first started playing the game and to this day I have seen zilch in what I would call tinfoilhattery.
Oh, and the prerequiset IBTL!
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Halada
Caldari
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:47:00 -
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Kieron has admitted that some Devs have crossed the line and abused game mechanics, but couldn't confirm or say who it was, and that an ongoing investigation.
The rumors say BoB's BoD was aware they had Dev inside their alliance and that those devs provided a list of uncharted soon-to-be-fixed bugs to exploit. Those are rumors, and more and more evidence are coming up. Nothing to go crazy about.
Kieron asked not to start new topics about the matter, eventually the truth will get out, it always does. BoB will keep denying it as they always do, and people will flame. The best thing is to wait it out until official results come.
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Strange Guy
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Aelena Thraant
Ok 1st of all... Do you believe everything you read on the Internet? 2nd of all... ANYONE can enter that comment.... and you have to have a KB password as well to do that. I'm sure it was someone from outbreak that entered that or someone that generally hates BoB that has the password. If BoB really had a GM giving ships back... You think they would post it lol
The poster of that comment is part of the Outbreak corp.
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Gunah
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:49:00 -
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 its a shame this is happening and i doubt it wont be long b4 this thread is deleted im not against the GM's and devs playing the game but hiding who they are is wrong, using there position to gain an advantage in there alliance in the employment of eve is wrong, i mean they can give themselves any amount of skills, ships, fittings all sorts of stuff they know all the bugs, whats going to happen they have vast info that a lot of us dont know tbh its just unfair im not saying they should stop playing the game but using that to there advantage for a large alliance in 0.0 is vastly unfair to the rest of us, at first i thought the top pirates where the gm's and devs and like special events where being piloted by them but hiding on unkown accounts in a large alliance in 0.0 where they have a very dtrong advantage over the rest of players is not right :( cmon guys play fair like the rest of us or eve is going to have a dramatic downfall which i do not want to see.
PS yes im posting on a noob id, yes the gm's may find out who it is so dont hold my alliance or corp responsible, you guys are just being unfair in my eyes its cheating.
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Buxaroo
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Herculite
Looks like left wing political tactics have reached EvE.
If you can't beat them, smear them until everything thinks they are as bad as you say they are.
The problem with this is there are no elections in EvE and no matter what you think about someone they can still shoot you.
Ummm, right wing politicals are just as guilty....read the news lately? Or watch that "Balanced News" station?
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:49:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=468189
Flame bait. Thread Locked
*click*
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