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That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.16 22:52:50 -
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Hello MD,
I am looking for investors for the following bond:
Face Value: 250B ISK Collateral: 110%+ face value (290B ISK) Interest: 1.8% Duration: ~3-6 months 3rd Party: Grendell Minimum Investment: 10B ISK
The bond starts the day Grendell sends the ISK and interest is due before the next month. Example: If the bond starts February 24th then interest will be due by the 23rd of each following month.
Bondholders will be paid out in the order that your investment is reserved unless you specify otherwise. Example: If you are first to invest but want paid out last then just let me know.
Collateral is as follows:
- Blueprint Originals: Archon x 3, Thanatos x 2, Chimera, Nidhouggur, Revelation, Obelisk, Apocalypse, Armageddon, Dominix, Megathron, Raven, Scorpion, Tempest, Typhoon, Capital Capacitor Battery, Capital Cargo Bay x 2, Capital Computer System, Capital Construction Parts, Capital Drone Bay, Capital Sensor Cluster, Territorial Claim Unit, Sovereignty Blockade Unit, Infrastructure Hub, Advanced Logistics Network, Cynosural Navigation, Cynosural Suppression, Supercapital Construction Facilities, Entrapment Array 1-5, Ore Prospecting Array 1-5, Pirate Detection Array 1-5, Quantum Flux Generator 1-5, Survey Network 1-5 all with impeccable research.
- 120 Pirate Detection Array 3s
- 2,500,000 Zydrine
- 1,050 Quafe Zero
- 1,450,000 Planetary Vehicles
- 17,000,000 Neurovisual Input Matrixs
- 9,700,000 Electromechanical Hull Sheetings
- 150 Station Construction Parts
- 150 Station Storage Bays
- 1 'Silvershore' Greatcoat
- 1 Miasmos Quafe Ultramarine Edition
- 13 Men's 'Field Marshal' Coats
- 150 GDN-9 "Nightstalker" Combat Goggles
As always, do not send ISK until bond is confirmed and collateral secured.
Cheers, TBD |
That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.02.16 22:53:21 -
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Investors: |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
738
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Posted - 2016.02.16 22:56:49 -
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would like pledge 20b
@JerryTPepridge
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That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.16 22:58:23 -
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(Reserved) |
Verneece
VVV Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2016.02.17 00:13:22 -
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Can do 20B once collateral confirmed & confirmation that interest rate as 1.8% per month or part thereof. |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2016.02.17 01:04:05 -
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Something tells me this isn't a real bid. You will want him to affirm it as legit. |
Zimmo
Shadow State Circle-Of-Two
5
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Posted - 2016.02.17 03:58:11 -
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I'll take 10b worth. |
FarosWarrior
De Muuzevangers
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Posted - 2016.02.17 09:07:53 -
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I would like to pledge 10b |
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
927
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Posted - 2016.02.17 16:52:15 -
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I can do 20b |
noobs market orders
nOObs with Miners
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Posted - 2016.02.17 17:13:16 -
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that interest rate though |
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That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.17 19:23:27 -
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Verneece wrote:Can do 20B once collateral confirmed & confirmation that interest rate as 1.8% per month or part thereof.
I can confirm that the 1.8% interest is for a 30-day period. If a period is 31 days then interest will be 1.8%*(31/30)=1.86%. In my opinion, the best way to look at it is you earn 0.06% daily. I hope that answers your question.
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That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.17 19:31:10 -
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noobs market orders wrote:that interest rate though
I did research into other bonds currently being run and that was a competitive rate for a bond of this size and percent overcollateralization.
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noobs market orders
nOObs with Miners
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Posted - 2016.02.17 19:47:13 -
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Give me a shout if it fails to fill fast enough and you would review the interest rate.
Ill leave this here to mull over (I filled 105 of that bond for 2.5%) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=468408&find=unread |
noobs market orders
nOObs with Miners
12
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Posted - 2016.02.18 19:27:39 -
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Well as i haven't seen many offers, i thought id take a punt and offer 100b on this bond for 2.5% |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
748
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Posted - 2016.02.18 23:08:16 -
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noobs market orders wrote:Well as i haven't seen many offers, i thought id take a punt and offer 100b on this bond for 2.5%
low interest as this dude doesnt know what hes doing & wants an easy out
hold you money m8 - due cant afford 2.5%
@JerryTPepridge
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Lando Antilles
18
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Posted - 2016.02.19 05:01:17 -
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will take the last 20b if still available. |
That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.19 12:36:12 -
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Lando Antilles wrote:will take the last 20b if still available.
I went ahead you put you down for 20B, but there was 190B available when you reserved. So if you had wanted more than 20B just let me know and I can up your reservation. |
noobs market orders
nOObs with Miners
13
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Posted - 2016.02.20 08:14:37 -
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Retracting my previous offer... i now require 3%. |
Lando Antilles
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Posted - 2016.02.20 18:35:46 -
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I was trying to value your collateral, but I realized it was taking too much of my time. If Grendell pipes in here and says it's worth it and he can expect to liquidate easily, I can raise my pledge to 50-100 Bill. |
Lando Antilles
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Posted - 2016.02.20 20:44:00 -
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ok, i felt like wasting some time and looked at collateral in detail
wow. this is overvalued.
the Blueprints are worth it, but it looks like you are trying to unload the planetary vehicles. It's 1/3 of your collat and more volume than jita moves in a year. Overproduce much?
And some of those other items would also be hard to unload. if this defaults, ppl will get back only 1/2 of their deposit.
I rescind offer. Good Luck |
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That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.02.20 21:34:41 -
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Lando Antilles wrote:ok, i felt like wasting some time and looked at collateral in detail
wow. this is overvalued.
the Blueprints are worth it, but it looks like you are trying to unload the planetary vehicles. It's 1/3 of your collat and more volume than jita moves in a year. Overproduce much?
And some of those other items would also be hard to unload. if this defaults, ppl will get back only 1/2 of their deposit.
I rescind offer. Good Luck
The BPOs are being valued at 60B in terms of collateral but that is their NPC value. In terms of a fire sale they would easily fetch 80-90B. The planetary vehicles are being valued at 50k/unit while their market price is 70k/unit. Their build cost is 120k/unit. Again, I was thinking in terms of a fire sale price and thought that was sufficient. I don't see how anything I have for collateral would be hard to offload as the prices I used to value everything was well below market value. But if you aren't comfortable investing than that is fine. It is your ISK.
All I can say is the BPOs are my babies, I am not defaulting, I want those back. The PV is waaaay to undervalued here to try and "dump them". Everything is too undervalued to default. This is just a bond to further my Citadel investments and payback will be swift and in-full. |
FarosWarrior
De Muuzevangers
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Posted - 2016.02.21 17:42:04 -
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Is there any news on this or is this not going on anymore? I'd like to know so I can use this money in other investments.
Thx |
That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.21 20:15:29 -
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FarosWarrior wrote:Is there any news on this or is this not going on anymore? I'd like to know so I can use this money in other investments.
Thx
Yes, I am still trying to fill the bond. The new terms offered today (2.2% interest) should attract the last 90B worth of investors hopefully. I'll be sad to see you go, but if you need to cancel your reservation just let me know. |
That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.02.21 20:25:20 -
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The original terms of the bond have changed. The interest rate was increased to 2.2% to hopefully bring in more investors. The collateral was reduced to either eliminate or decrease some items that were deemed unsuitable. Collateral now stands at 180B with very conservative value estimates. Because of this the Face Value was reduced to 150B making the bond 120% overcollateralized. All original investors will receive the 2.2% rate of course and can cancel their reservations at any time. |
noobs market orders
nOObs with Miners
13
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:09:29 -
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I can't help but feel you went 2.2 in order to slam the door in my face.
Do you want to stop messing about now and agree on 2.5 so you can get this bond filled? |
Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
359
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Posted - 2016.02.21 22:54:35 -
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noobs market orders wrote:I can't help but feel you went 2.2 in order to slam the door in my face. Do you want to stop messing about now and agree on 2.5 so you can get this bond filled?
Thought you upped your offer to 3% |
That Broker Dude
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.02.22 19:28:41 -
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noobs market orders wrote:I can't help but feel you went 2.2 in order to slam the door in my face. Do you want to stop messing about now and agree on 2.5 so you can get this bond filled?
Well as Xylem Viliana pointed out, you had moved your offer to 3%. The move to 2.2% wasn't to "slam the door in your face", it was to increase the interest to attract more investors and a move from 1.8% to 2.2% seemed sufficient. Regardless, if you want the last 90B for 2.5% I can do that.
So at this point we are just waiting on Grendell to take custody of the collateral.
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noobs market orders
nOObs with Miners
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Posted - 2016.02.22 19:31:01 -
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Consider me in for 90b @2.5%
Awaiting grendell to confirm ok to send isk. |
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering
1000
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Posted - 2016.02.23 14:01:29 -
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Confirming I've been contacted about this, just waiting on contract for collateral.
Gùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦3rd Party ServiceGùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦
GÖÑ Securing Peace of mind GÖÑ
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering
1001
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Posted - 2016.02.24 04:00:59 -
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Collateral now in my hands.
Gùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦3rd Party ServiceGùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦
GÖÑ Securing Peace of mind GÖÑ
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