EVE Search - Minerals prices, Privateers, is there a relation

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Minerals prices, Privateers, is there a relation

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Mitzi Harlann	Posted - 2007.02.05 06:42:00 - [1] As most people have realised mineral prices arent stable at all at the moment. I m sure that revelation and the new ships has a part in this, however what i m wondering now if that Privateers tactic of wardecing almost any other corp/alliance is actually not hurting the economy to a bigger degree than first thought. It used to be relatively safe to travel in empire hio-sec most of the time as even when you were at war it was a somewhat time limited issue, but nowadays with privateers perma wardeccing most people and having pilot (crappy one, but that's another issue) camping gates in hi sec waiting to gank hauler of alliance/corp they have wardecced it has become even more mandatory than before to always travel with WCS, and that means less Cargo Expander if any and so less cargo capacity. Just my thoughts on the subject. Ps: and i d like to say to Privateers little noobs who actually accuse people of being cheap when travelling in empire with WCS that in my opinion they have created the situation and are now seeing a normal adaptation to their cheap tactics to find targets without taking any risk. See you soon Privateers, always a pleasure to see you in the rear view
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.05 06:56:00 - [2] Edited by: Plutoinum on 05/02/2007 06:58:45 Don't think so. Think it's mostly because of revelations and the new ships. There is almost an oversupply with high mins, the price of zydrine has fallen a lot, imho because of the new regions, but the supply with low mins couldn't follow. Now people grab all low mins they can get and build ships e.g. the new battleships and battlecruisers. ______________ Originally by: Patch86 Combat in EVE is non-consensual. Unlike most games, EVE, by design, forces you to be ready for violence everywhere-even hi-sec space.
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2007.02.05 06:59:00 - [3] Bitter much? ----------------- http://www.eve-provenance.com
Assur Minmatar Stronghold corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.05 07:09:00 - [4] Most people I know move gear through empire with noob corp alts... privateers can't wardec them.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.02.05 07:12:00 - [5] Mineral prices have gone up because of ISK Farmers moving to do high sec level 4 missions instead of mining. 2 Billion ISK Contest
Soporo	Posted - 2007.02.05 07:50:00 - [6] Edited by: Soporo on 05/02/2007 07:52:46 Well, anyone with sense won't move much around in industrials in any wardec situation. I learned this the hard way myself. Regardless, I can certainly see the fotm Empire Wardeccing having an impact on buisness, no idea if it's mainly minerals or not. Quote: Most people I know move gear through empire with noob corp alts... privateers can't wardec them. Your right, I have to do this too, and I HATE metagaming in all it's forms. I'm good with the CONCEPT of Privateers, I am not good with the idea of candy-ass corps using them then bailing the Alliance, and not taking their licks. Fortunately Priv are equal oportunity bungholes and will happily take money later to wardec that same Corp. I'm also hammered and need to sleep.GN.
tiewan	Posted - 2007.02.05 08:15:00 - [7] I think privateers is good for the economy. More ships blowing up means more ships need to be built.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.02.05 10:38:00 - [8] WTZ and carrier jumps created this global averaging of mineral prices. we start to have 1.0 systems with same mineral prices as 0.0 id be curious to find out what is the best ore now. unsure its still bistot, ark or crokite ------
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.05 11:06:00 - [9] Edited by: Venkul Mul on 05/02/2007 11:06:45 Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 05/02/2007 07:15:04 Mineral prices have gone up because of ISK Farmers moving to do high sec level 4 missions instead of mining. This is also the reason for the massive price decline on various implants. hahahahhaha Poor isk farmers then, as mission running give about the same rewards that mining, with much more preparatory work. At least partially it is dependant in the lower quantity of loot recovered in missions after the introduction of salvage. Most of it was garbage level items and was reprocessed for the minerals. With a huge cut in the loot, of every tipe, the recycled items have dropped and so one of the sources of cheap minerals reduced. Another cause is the banning of a good number of macrominers. Less cheap low ends again. All added up good for high sec miners, less for low sec or 0.0. It is interesting to notice that in a low sec mining expedition the best minerals are nocxioum and maybe isogen, not zydrine. The higher quantity recovered give most of the reward for low sec mining.
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.05 11:15:00 - [10] Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 05/02/2007 07:15:04 Mineral prices have gone up because of ISK Farmers moving to do high sec level 4 missions instead of mining. This is also the reason for the massive price decline on various implants. Hate to burst your bubble but implant prices have dropped like a brick (and have actually stabilized slightly in the last two months) because CCP fked up the LP offer tables, not because of mission farming. --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.05 11:17:00 - [11] A few cheap gankers in empire are not affecting mineral prices. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.05 11:47:00 - [12] Its due to a number of things. The new ships require a increase in demand for all minerals, so everything should rise in price. However, the high ends, such as Zyd for example, are at their lowest value ever. Some people suspect that is is a result of ASCN going down, as many people had stocks going into the tens of millions of zyd units. One corp had 9 million units of Morphite alone, and if you add up the stocks from all corps, you are looking at perhaps one of the biggist high end mineral flooding eve has seen in years. --
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.02.05 11:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Splagada id be curious to find out what is the best ore now. unsure its still bistot, ark or crokite Ark, because it contains lots of megacyte which price is not that much affected. Zydrine and Nocxium went down because the alloys of the drones in the new regions contains lots of it.
KingAc Minmatar North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.02.05 12:02:00 - [14] 2 yers ago all know that highsec mining did suck you get more isk from mission and loot fore refine. Whid the new region you can still make 70-90mille isk from alloys when farming. To bad ccp did destroy the mining in 0,0 to. but to dayindy corps are reselling and building highend ships to get som isk. Stil most of the money do you get from reselling and mapulating the market got to love it \o/
Sorted Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.05 13:07:00 - [15] Sure, I do love a good hauler ganking but I dont think that it would effect eve on the scale your talking about. Most haulers we have caught (my gang, not privs on a whole) have been almost empty. Many hauler pilots have turned to MetaGaming to dodge the decs and hide from the risk. Many more adapt and use a mix of stabs and nanos +T2 haulers to sucessfully move around empire unganked.(which is what I would do) I think the real reason is the Banning of Macro Miners to a high extent over the last few months. Less minerals available combind with the increase in demand due to the new ship building and extensive 0.0 fighting would ramp up prices no problem. I dont think that the mineral trade has been effected ot any great extent by the actions of Privs, as we would unload all stolen minerals under value for quick sales if we where sucessfull. But player tactics/fittings certainly have changed. But you adapt and so do we.... Sorted..... catching your nano-stabbed-T2 industrials in a system near you soon
Kruugore Minmatar Vigilant Justice	Posted - 2007.02.05 13:20:00 - [16] There is an entire new region to mine out, and more population than last year. Anyone like myself stocked up on mexallon when it was what pyerite is today and has been selling for a premium ever since... The price changes are slowing and are near adjusted now so it's not as profitable, but it was a good profit run while it lasted. It's simple. More People added to server, New 0.0 region with more high end ore/materials appears. Empire/Protected Space has not changed in Size. It will be producing the same amount of ore. High End Minerals lose value. Low End minerals gain value. Mr. K VIGILANT JUSTICE CEO/FOUNDER
Mitzi Harlann	Posted - 2007.02.05 14:32:00 - [17] Edited by: Mitzi Harlann on 05/02/2007 14:35:39 Originally by: Sorted Sure, I do love a good hauler ganking but I dont think that it would effect eve on the scale your talking about. Most haulers we have caught (my gang, not privs on a whole) have been almost empty. Many hauler pilots have turned to MetaGaming to dodge the decs and hide from the risk. Many more adapt and use a mix of stabs and nanos +T2 haulers to sucessfully move around empire unganked.(which is what I would do) I think the real reason is the Banning of Macro Miners to a high extent over the last few months. Less minerals available combind with the increase in demand due to the new ship building and extensive 0.0 fighting would ramp up prices no problem. I dont think that the mineral trade has been effected ot any great extent by the actions of Privs, as we would unload all stolen minerals under value for quick sales if we where sucessfull. But player tactics/fittings certainly have changed. But you adapt and so do we.... Sorted..... catching your nano-stabbed-T2 industrials in a system near you soon Yeah as i was saying i dont think privateers are the only reason, far from it, but you guys certainly did make empire more dangerous, as i said i have adapted and i m sure you will adapt too. The only 'smacktalk' i would do is to try to have your pilot stop smacktalking hauler pilot because they are wcs fitted, as i stated its only evolution, the fittest survives. Last, Sorted you are welcome to try anyway :)
Jon Hawkes ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.05 14:59:00 - [18] I think that in the grand scheme of things, Privateers' war decs are not going to have that dramatic an effect due to the sheer amount of Industrialists and miners all over the Eve galaxy, both in player and NPC corps.
Sorted Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.05 16:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Mitzi Harlann The only 'smacktalk' i would do is to try to have your pilot stop smacktalking hauler pilot because they are wcs fitted, as i stated its only evolution, the fittest survives. Last, Sorted you are welcome to try anyway :) I dont mind haulers stabbing up, I even see it as a temporary solution to blockades for combat pilots. I will try, what else can I do
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.02.06 02:42:00 - [20] Originally by: Leandro Salazar Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 05/02/2007 07:15:04 Mineral prices have gone up because of ISK Farmers moving to do high sec level 4 missions instead of mining. This is also the reason for the massive price decline on various implants. Hate to burst your bubble but implant prices have dropped like a brick (and have actually stabilized slightly in the last two months) because CCP fked up the LP offer tables, not because of mission farming. I guess you don't watch the trade channels much with the amount of farmers selling implants? I paid 1.25 million (thats MILLION) ISK for a full set of +5 implants thanks to the ISK farmers, poor guy thought it was 1.25 billion (which it was until the last second when I switched it on his sorry farming ass) He said cao ni ma to me... I wonder what that meant. 2 Billion ISK Contest
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.06 02:45:00 - [21] Lol its been a while since I've seen a privateers thread Half Assed Rhymage

Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.