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Donna Darko	Posted - 2007.02.06 19:29:00 - [1] I'm slightly bored with my current EVE life and I'm trying to figure out if I can do something else. For some reason, I keep thinking I'd like to be a sort of trader/hauler for pirates but with no strings attached :) Let me explain. So pirate A loses their ship because of one reason or another. He looks on the market... nothing available in any of the low sec systems he can go to. Enter my corporation: Small Time Crooks! I can bring you a ship of your liking for a modest (but still worth my time) markup. Say, a cruiser sells for 7 million, I'll bring it to you for 7.7 mil. Or a HAC costs 160 mil, I'll bring it for 170 (haven't decided the exact figure for the markup, will probably be lower than my examples). The contract systems make it pretty safe for everyone involved in this. What's the catch? None. You can even try to gank me if you want. I don't care. Only thing you'd lose is not having a ship brought over. All I want to do is have fun in a different way. Would you use this service? Stories.
cytomatrix Caldari Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.06 20:05:00 - [2] I would. Would we have to pay before getting the ship? Then no.. ______________________________________________________________
Alowishus OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.06 20:05:00 - [3] Most good pirate corps have pretty good logistics for this type of thing. It might be good for solo pirates but they are few and far between.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.06 20:12:00 - [4] In order for your business to work you must destroy all alts untill then the courier business will never be --({O})-- You've all been goatse'd! Half Assed Rhymage Always IBTL and IBDS!
Donna Darko	Posted - 2007.02.06 20:26:00 - [5] Originally by: cytomatrix I would. Would we have to pay before getting the ship? Then no.. Yes and no. Maybe. Depends how you want to do it: you want to buy it off the market or you just want it, period, regardless of where it's coming from. If you buy it off the market, you can create a courier mission with collateral, so you effectively don't lose money. If not, I buy it and bring it over, then you buy it from me. The "every good pirate corp has logistics" is what kills me, since I know this is assured by alts and not "real players". Stories.
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.06 20:50:00 - [6] Originally by: Donna Darko Originally by: cytomatrix I would. Would we have to pay before getting the ship? Then no.. Yes and no. Maybe. Depends how you want to do it: you want to buy it off the market or you just want it, period, regardless of where it's coming from. If you buy it off the market, you can create a courier mission with collateral, so you effectively don't lose money. If not, I buy it and bring it over, then you buy it from me. The "every good pirate corp has logistics" is what kills me, since I know this is assured by alts and not "real players". It's the whole alt thing that makes it a problem...but I would have used a service like that had it not been for friends with connections. --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.02.06 20:57:00 - [7] I actually have arranged for exactly this kind of service with a local ship building corp. How it works is: 1) I have a ship that I am flying and a backup ship or three. 2) I lose the ship I am flying. 3) I evemail the contact person at the corp. 4) Within a couple of days, they fly out to a station we agreed on and then leave me the ship in a contract at the agreed upon price. Things that would make me switch providers: -Faster turn around -Module delivery as well -Lower prices New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Stakhanov Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.07 04:11:00 - [8] I use courier contracts regularly , to bring the stuff I ordered to lowsec. For ships , I either place a buy order at home station , or use an item exchange contract to have them delivered the same - it works well if you advertise it , saves the trouble of flying through highsec to reach hub regions. I don't think being a dedicated hauler is a terribly profitable profession - one collateral / cargo loss is enough to kill a good part of your recent profits. It's more like ore theft - just for those who like to be sneaky with their slow , bulky industrial ships
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2007.02.07 12:28:00 - [9] Well in low sec i don't see you getting much business but if you said that we didn't have to pay upfront and you would deliver into 0.0 then yes i personally would definately use it. DE
Black Torment Caldari Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.02.07 13:15:00 - [10] The problem with this is people are gonna set up to gank you when you deliver their orders :) The better, more sensible thing to do would be to just find the lowsec hotspots and place sell orders there. Set up a trading and mining corporation so you can build your own stuff and acquire your own minerals to minimise your costs. Just move up the ladder slowly, using your profits to buy BPO's til you're doing battleships or tech 2 stuff.

FooB2 Caldari Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.07 13:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Black Torment The problem with this is people are gonna set up to gank you when you deliver their orders :) The better, more sensible thing to do would be to just find the lowsec hotspots and place sell orders there. Set up a trading and mining corporation so you can build your own stuff and acquire your own minerals to minimise your costs. Just move up the ladder slowly, using your profits to buy BPO's til you're doing battleships or tech 2 stuff. dont you offer special "services" round the back of BDSM clubs in Soho? Signature removed, please avoid using images involving relgious symbols like that. -Ivan K
PaulLRyan Minmatar Lone Shark Enterprises	Posted - 2007.02.07 13:51:00 - [12] I think your problem here is the old Risk v Reward issue. Assuming for a minute that there are people out there who would in theory use the service because either they have no big corp/alliance to replace thier losses or would prefer to be out there having fun than running thier alt back to Empire space that still leaves you with a ton of risks. There is the chance of just getting ganked randomly. There is the fake order that lures you into a trap. There is the real order that gets ambushed by the enemies of the person placing the order to keep them 'shipless'. To offset all of that you are going to have to charge a heafty 'mark-up' to cover losses which only makes you less attractive as a supplier to those who use your service properly. I don't have much experience of 0.0 life. ( I go there from time to time and alway wake up back in an empire cloning vat ) but would it be possible to be more of trader than supplier. Take out random ships and modules when you can with nobody knowing you are on your way and then dumping them in an easy (ish) to get to station and just waiting for them to sell. With nobody knowing when you are travelling or what you are taking in there is less chance of being set up. Just a thought.
Donna Darko	Posted - 2007.02.07 17:55:00 - [13] Edited by: Donna Darko on 07/02/2007 17:56:58 Originally by: DarkElf [...] if [...] you would deliver into 0.0 [...] Now, why would I do a stupid thing like that? Low sec offers a lot more security from pirates than 0.0 - interdictors, bubbles, fast locking interceptors with scramblers, having to deal with the almost-universal NBSI policy, etc. In low security I can usually escape most small-ish ships (up to, but not including, battlecruisers). How many times you see a Merlin successfully taking out a Badger II at a gate? :) ...Will I get ganked? Likely, but that doesn't mean I cannot try to deliver. What's more probable is me not losing the cargo, but possibly losing under 1 million ISK and whatever my clone costs. There's also conditions I'm not going to be able NOT to put in the contract ;) such as "I can't deliver in a dead end system unless you pay me in advance". EDIT I know the whole Risk vs Reward, but this thing would most likely be temporary, as I cannot ask too big of a reward because then everyone says "Well, screw you, I won't pay ranso... ermm, I'll get my alt!" It would be more of a fun experience for me and a short-term "project". Stories.
dennyreborn	Posted - 2007.02.07 18:46:00 - [14] My advice. ditch the take the ship out there individually for each order. Get a feel for the pirates in your area, what they fly, what they lose ETC. then simply take the ship out there on your own and put it on the market. pirate loses a ship he can either have his alt fly for a hour or 2 to get a new one or he can buy yours on the market (marked up).
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2007.02.07 18:51:00 - [15] Originally by: Donna Darko Edited by: Donna Darko on 07/02/2007 17:56:58 Originally by: DarkElf [...] if [...] you would deliver into 0.0 [...] Now, why would I do a stupid thing like that? Low sec offers a lot more security from pirates than 0.0 - interdictors, bubbles, fast locking interceptors with scramblers, having to deal with the almost-universal NBSI policy, etc. how silly of me travelling through 0.0 you always die right egit. try to help but get nubs talking stupid to ya. in that case silly idea. will fail. anyone can do what you are proppsing for themselves. get a job! DE
Donna Darko	Posted - 2007.02.07 20:00:00 - [16] Oh well, was worth thinking about it for a few minutes :) 0.0 makes me look at the game sourly. I fly through it, I don't always die, but the chances of me losing my cargo in an indie in 0.0 are a lot greater than low sec (with the way I think about doing it). Doesn't matter. Stand by for my next business plan, equally weird! :) Stories.
Sixtyniner The Movement	Posted - 2007.02.08 00:21:00 - [17] This idea has come to my mind dozens of times. I for one, would actually use a service like this when needed. Though it would probally take a lot of effort to gain trust and reputation to get it to work, but imagine this big corporation with lots of orders everyday. Ships being sent out to all of space, some with escort, some with T2 modules. Like a big "post office" :D. I hope to one day see this, only because it¦s really "EVE-like" with 100% player interaction ;)
westernstab	Posted - 2007.02.08 03:54:00 - [18] Originally by: Donna Darko Oh well, was worth thinking about it for a few minutes :) 0.0 makes me look at the game sourly. I fly through it, I don't always die, but the chances of me losing my cargo in an indie in 0.0 are a lot greater than low sec (with the way I think about doing it). Doesn't matter. Stand by for my next business plan, equally weird! :) your chance of survival goes up a lot if you have a scout. the market system lets you do what your talking about with out the chance of someone less the reputable knowing where exactly your going.


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