Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.07 05:13:46 -
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The volumes involved with the trade in Guidance Systems and Robotics are much higher than other level 3 commodities if you look at the monthly volume column in the following table:
Single Stage (20) Two Stage (6) Buy Volume Sell Volume Monthly Vol
(55) ......Biotech Research Reports -28,999,668 -4.04% -4,101,710 -1.95% 38,041 56.21% 45,370 67.04% 67,672
(56) .................Camera Drones -9,122,859 -1.62% 20,482,125 14.09% 44,387 48.69% 13,697 15.03% 91,161
(57) ...................Condensates -271,112,444 -46.17% -27,050,274 -22.20% 75,835 31.06% 56,072 22.97% 244,126
(58) .......Cryoprotectant Solution 119,311,947 19.16% 12,647,993 6.02% 49,508 7.71% 93,645 14.58% 642,407
(59) ....................Data Chips 60,641,227 11.69% 9,861,767 6.01% 23,082 4.67% 55,622 11.25% 494,596
(60) ...........Gel-Matrix Biopaste 102,529,362 13.65% 92,336,473 56.37% 85,169 9.52% 90,634 10.14% 894,266
(61) ..............Guidance Systems 28,561,762 6.35% 20,356,434 16.53% 283,871 6.24% 13,853,987 304.60% 4,548,324
(62) ......Hazmat Detection Systems 111,642,757 16.03% 58,329,854 31.69% 49,354 42.04% 26,184 22.31% 117,389
(63) ............Hermetic Membranes 149,119,964 20.64% 63,716,716 32.22% 86,079 28.79% 36,827 12.32% 298,948
(64) ........High-Tech Transmitters -49,125,176 -7.60% 45,791,580 34.33% 49,082 30.70% 18,973 11.87% 159,895
(65) .........Industrial Explosives 15,004,030 3.70% -24,158,612 -16.09% 32,928 13.89% 42,416 17.89% 237,106
(66) .......................Neocoms 39,805,110 7.10% 45,161,859 33.48% 54,603 61.02% 12,500 13.97% 89,490
(67) ..............Nuclear Reactors -231,006,476 -33.83% -29,550,280 -17.90% 29,783 17.44% 67,590 39.58% 170,773
(68) ............Planetary Vehicles -445,052,732 -53.46% -113,124,640 -49.32% 410,494 61.50% 3,073,798 460.49% 667,512
(69) ......................Robotics 201,603,875 35.48% 88,887,587 62.56% 750,877 6.11% 434,599 3.53% 12,294,631
(70) ................Smartfab Units 99,360,865 17.02% 44,399,734 27.66% 68,272 27.03% 39,374 15.59% 252,546
(71) ................Supercomputers -13,496,763 -1.73% 28,419,261 14.12% 78,892 23.37% 38,335 11.36% 337,587
(72) ............Synthetic Synapses 57,986,360 12.57% 30,120,028 23.97% 39,965 6.78% 50,972 8.65% 589,187
(73) .Transcranial Microcontrollers 48,586,712 12.81% 31,174,959 32.08% 174,702 23.72% 127,057 17.25% 736,581
(74) .........Ukomi Superconductors 36,198,218 8.02% 30,941,131 26.82% 34,259 12.97% 16,885 6.39% 264,226
(75) ......................Vaccines 74,255,468 14.44% 13,189,228 8.08% 49,621 29.27% 33,818 19.95% 169,523
The monthly volume of robotics at 12 million just dwarfs all the other commodities. Why is this?
Another weird thing is that the inventory of Guidance Systems is a lot greater than Robotics. So, for example, even though the monthly volume is 12 million, there are only currently 400k for sale, but for Guidance Systems there are 13 million for sale. |
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc
Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2016.03.23 03:42:50 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Droidster wrote:Gilbaron wrote:guidance systems are a P3 item. they used to be P2 back in the day when they were sold by NPCs. i guess there are still some people out there sitting on huge stockpiles. that might explain the amount that is available on the market. high demand is explained by T2 drones, like others have already correctly pointed out. I see, that makes sense. So, in that case it would suggest that the pre-PI stockpiles of robotics have been exhausted, but the stockpiles of Guidance Systems still remain. Guidance Systems are a nice example of Pre PI stockpiling. The large Guidance Systems stocks accumulated from buying from NPCs have yet to be consumed. Robotics are not stockpiled anymore, because the way greater demand comsumed the Pre PI stockpiles already.
There are indeed substantial remaining stockpiles of Guidance Systems that date back to pre-PI NPC trade. Our alliance put away 5 million units prior to the PI roll-out in 2009, of which we still hold around 3.6 million units. Another guy has listed 15 million units for sale at stretch prices in 5 low-sec systems in the Forge for years, patiently waiting for prices to rise to their player-driven fundamental value. And that's just a couple of examples. We began releasing small quantities into the market a year or so ago - 10,000 to 20,000 units per week - as the market began to approach equilibrium in the product.
For a bit of history, prior to PI, there were no "Pn" designations to these goods, they were simply NPC trade goods, sold by the game in some stations and bought by the game in others for (usually) some margin of profit. Guidance Systems were largely ignored, they could be purchased from NPC sell orders for around 420 ISK per unit and sold in other stations to NPC buy orders for something higher - who knows, it was not the most compelling NPC trade.
A much better NPC trade in the early days was Robotics. They could be bought for something like 6,800 ISK or better in selling NPC stations, then shipped a few jumps to sell for around 7,600 ISK in NPC buying stations. Back in 2003, if you could move 60 - 80 thousand units of Robotics in a few hours (in an Industrial... there were no Freighters), that was a hugely profitable day. Making 15 - 20 million ISK per hour back then was just sick..... outrageous good ISK back then. Robotics trade got a bit of a nerf in late 2003 or so, but trade in that and other NPC goods continued to offer a modest way to make a profit, as it still does from a limited number of products today.
Then, some years later in 2009, along came PI. Those studying the PI system on the test server were able to see how various NPC goods were being classified into P1, P2 and P3 goods, and also examine the mechanics for how they would be built. With that information, it was a simple matter to speculate on where prices on planetary goods might go. In our case, we looked at the process for extracting Planetary Raw Materials, and we made an assumption: if anybody's going to extract this stuff, they'll have to earn around 3.00 ISK per unit to make it worthwhile. From that assumption, it was easy to derive unit pricing for improved PI products, without even considering production costs, taxes and incremental labor, as P1: 450 ISK, P2: 3,600 ISK, and P3: 12,000 ISK. With that set of assumptions, scanning the list of then-NPC goods, Guidance Systems stood out as the obvious candidate for huge price increases, as an NPC good priced at 240 ISK, set to become a P3 planetary product. Nothing else was close, though there were some other good plays.
Thus the reason for the major stockpile of Guidance Systems. Robotics were not stockpiled anywhere near as heavily, because, at an NPC price of 6,800 ISK, there was not nearly as much upside. The introduction of Guidance into the production requirements of T2 drones has helped to create a steady demand, which, over time, has drawn down the now ancient NPC stockpile.
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