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Rose Deathscythe	Posted - 2007.02.09 05:52:00 - [1] I'm getting to a point in the game where I have to start picking a skill set for a battleship. But I don't know which one to choose. I initally wanted a Rukh but all I hear is how the suck. Than I thought about the Hyperion but again the same thing. So really I'd love some help in deciding what battleship to choose. All i want is a ship that can handle lvl4 missions and is fine in pvp. Any help or advice would be greatley apprecaited.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.09 05:56:00 - [2] humm...A ship that can switch hit between missions and PvP. Dominix PS: Whoever told you the Rokh and hyperion sucked needs to be publicly and brutaly beaten to death with a nerfbat.
Admiral Seafort DarkStar 1	Posted - 2007.02.09 06:07:00 - [3] Raven. So the PVP part is stretching it a bit, but it's probably the #1 PVE BS. ----- It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it.
X99 Z990	Posted - 2007.02.09 06:52:00 - [4] Domi can handle lvl 4s and is great in PvP.
Spenz Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.09 08:53:00 - [5] Edited by: Spenz on 09/02/2007 08:50:07 Hyperion is a redundant POS that is just an expensive toy. A dominix can out-tank one and a megathron is both a better sniper and blaster ship. The Rokh otoh is the best of the Tier 3 BS's since it actually has a role. However for a good BS I would pick one of the cheap ones. Dominix is a great lvl 4 mission runner and is pretty good in PVP (and at 60 mil isk a bargain). The Armageddon tanks very well and is pretty good in pvp (also cheap). The phoon is very versatile and can do many things (not very well, but it can do many things). The raven, though not cheap, is the wtfpwn BS of them all. Its basically easy mode in any sort of PVE and isnt too bad in PVP either (with T2 torps). Tempest, megathron, apoc, scorpion, abaddon, maelstrom, and rokh are best used when you are skilled up a litte (or specialized like in ECM with the scorpion). The hyperion is best used when you have more isk than anyone else and you want to make a statement. Those are my opinions at least.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.09 09:24:00 - [6] A hyperion with 8x 425 IIs with a damage bonus is a mean cookie beyond 150km where tracking isn't that big of a deal. Combine that with the near 450mm scan res it can get and you have a ship that'll get near the top of alot of killmails. Expensive and skillpoint intensive it is in this role but worth every penny. The Rokh is currently the only fleet BS platform that can deploy a fitting that is both highly usefull in long range fleet combat, can take a direct hit from any single Doomsday weapon blast and only be in armor.
Nick Parker Caldari Rogue Elements	Posted - 2007.02.09 09:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Spenz Edited by: Spenz on 09/02/2007 08:50:07 Hyperion is a redundant POS that is just an expensive toy. A dominix can out-tank one and a megathron is both a better sniper and blaster ship. The Rokh otoh is the best of the Tier 3 BS's since it actually has a role. However for a good BS I would pick one of the cheap ones. Dominix is a great lvl 4 mission runner and is pretty good in PVP (and at 60 mil isk a bargain). The Armageddon tanks very well and is pretty good in pvp (also cheap). The phoon is very versatile and can do many things (not very well, but it can do many things). The raven, though not cheap, is the wtfpwn BS of them all. Its basically easy mode in any sort of PVE and isnt too bad in PVP either (with T2 torps). Tempest, megathron, apoc, scorpion, abaddon, maelstrom, and rokh are best used when you are skilled up a litte (or specialized like in ECM with the scorpion). The hyperion is best used when you have more isk than anyone else and you want to make a statement. Those are my opinions at least.
Viktor VonCarstein Amarr Phoenix Industries	Posted - 2007.02.09 10:25:00 - [8] Rattlesnake Good for PvP and mission running. http://sprayandpray.xippy.co.uk
Sokratesz Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.02.09 11:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Viktor VonCarstein Rattlesnake Good for PvP and mission running. rofl Suicide is bad, hmkay? (clickety clickety)
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.02.09 11:16:00 - [10] Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 09/02/2007 11:14:46 Originally by: Spenz Edited by: Spenz on 09/02/2007 08:50:07 Hyperion is a redundant POS that is just an expensive toy. A dominix can out-tank one and a megathron is both a better sniper and blaster ship. The Rokh otoh is the best of the Tier 3 BS's since it actually has a role. Don't be ridiculous, same number of mid slots for cap modules and a +37.5% bonus at BS V... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Spenz Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.09 13:40:00 - [11] Originally by: Gabriel Karade Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 09/02/2007 11:14:46 Originally by: Spenz Edited by: Spenz on 09/02/2007 08:50:07 Hyperion is a redundant POS that is just an expensive toy. A dominix can out-tank one and a megathron is both a better sniper and blaster ship. The Rokh otoh is the best of the Tier 3 BS's since it actually has a role. Don't be ridiculous, same number of mid slots for cap modules and a +37.5% bonus at BS V... Still doesnt change the fact that you dont have to dedicate any slots towards DPS. You can NOS it up all you want to feed your cap, slap cap modules in the mid slots and some of the low slots, and still run a fairly effective daul rep tank without sacrificing any of your primary DPS. All this with a price tag 1/3 that of the HYPErion. Domi is cheaper and more cost effective as a tank ship, while the megathron does the whole turret shtick just as effectively yet at half the cost. Hyperion is an e-peen for those who want to make a statement (or look foolish for buying something overpriced and redundant...or both).
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.02.09 15:22:00 - [12] Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 09/02/2007 15:19:32 Originally by: Spenz Originally by: Gabriel Karade Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 09/02/2007 11:14:46 Originally by: Spenz Edited by: Spenz on 09/02/2007 08:50:07 Hyperion is a redundant POS that is just an expensive toy. A dominix can out-tank one and a megathron is both a better sniper and blaster ship. The Rokh otoh is the best of the Tier 3 BS's since it actually has a role. Don't be ridiculous, same number of mid slots for cap modules and a +37.5% bonus at BS V... Still doesnt change the fact that you dont have to dedicate any slots towards DPS. You can NOS it up all you want to feed your cap, slap cap modules in the mid slots and some of the low slots, and still run a fairly effective daul rep tank without sacrificing any of your primary DPS. All this with a price tag 1/3 that of the HYPErion. Domi is cheaper and more cost effective as a tank ship, while the megathron does the whole turret shtick just as effectively yet at half the cost. Hyperion is an e-peen for those who want to make a statement (or look foolish for buying something overpriced and redundant...or both). I was taking issue with your statement 'a Dominix out-tanks it' which it clearly doesn't. I still use a Megathron over a Hyperion because I fly solo and have to kill things quickly (it comes down to that extra low slot and extra Ogre II), and I like the utility slot. If time isnÆt critical though, the Hyperion can mount an immense tank - using electrons and a full T2 active armour tank, it deals out around 900 dps it total, while tanking over 900 dps from Hybrids (i.e. would tank completely tank the turret damage output from a T2-fitted Blasterthron until out of cap charges). That's not a 'redundant POS', it's a different type of blaster-boat. ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Kunming Outcasts	Posted - 2007.02.09 15:55:00 - [13] I like: Apoc (secret pwnage gang setup :D) Abaddon (all-round combat ship) Hyperion (heavy gate camper) Geddon (great sniper) Mega (nice blasterboat and sniper) Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Aurael Drakewing Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2007.02.09 16:15:00 - [14] Edited by: Aurael Drakewing on 09/02/2007 16:12:29 Originally by: Spenz Edited by: Spenz on 09/02/2007 08:50:07 Hyperion is a redundant POS that is just an expensive toy. A dominix can out-tank one and a megathron is both a better sniper and blaster ship. The Rokh otoh is the best of the Tier 3 BS's since it actually has a role. However for a good BS I would pick one of the cheap ones. Dominix is a great lvl 4 mission runner and is pretty good in PVP (and at 60 mil isk a bargain). The Armageddon tanks very well and is pretty good in pvp (also cheap). The phoon is very versatile and can do many things (not very well, but it can do many things). The raven, though not cheap, is the wtfpwn BS of them all. Its basically easy mode in any sort of PVE and isnt too bad in PVP either (with T2 torps). Tempest, megathron, apoc, scorpion, abaddon, maelstrom, and rokh are best used when you are skilled up a litte (or specialized like in ECM with the scorpion). The hyperion is best used when you have more isk than anyone else and you want to make a statement. Those are my opinions at least. I love how you mix up tier-1 (generally 50-75mil) with a tier-2 (min. 100mil) in there. Shows just how highly the Scorpion is thought of On topic, it all depends on where you want to go with your skills. The phoon, for example, is a very good ship...but you have to be a generalist when it comes to skills (needing large proj, torpedos/cruises, drones, nos, armor AND shield tanking) and really isn't that good until you get to the high-SP range. Dominix and Geddon are excellent ships that allow you to keep a more specific and specialized skill path going (both needing armor tank, Domi needing drones/nos/poss hybrids, Geddon needing PEWPEW beams of death/nos/poss drones). Scorpion sucks unless you specialize in ECM use, then you've only got the Griffin -> Blackbird (and variants) -> Scorpion skillpath, so very limited use outside of gang-support. Scorp is also very sub-par on damage output, so not a good choice unless you like taking much longer to do a mission than normal. This covers all your tier-1 "cheap" BSs.
Hektor Ramirez Outer Ring Tourist Information Center	Posted - 2007.02.09 17:09:00 - [15] Quote: All i want is a ship that can handle lvl4 missions and is fine in pvp. Any help or advice would be greatley apprecaited. The Dominix is fun, drones can be a little high maintenance sometimes but it's one of the few ships that makes you go Hmmm, how shall I fit you today?. -

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