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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2016.03.14 03:49:00 -
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Confirming the horrific grind I went though to get standing so I could have a good number of locators.
And also confirming the "We told you so"
Because we did.
Like literally every wardeccer.
Also If you think it's crazy now, some merc corps, like Marmite, can run up to 300 active decs in bursts. Marmite's done it before, Archetype has the possibilities as would Ven, PIRAT and CD as I would imagine.
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Valkin Mordirc
1957
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Posted - 2016.03.14 03:55:48 -
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Zappity wrote:We need wardecs changed so they are attackable. Steve Ronuken had a good idea about making them dependent upon an anchored whatsit that can be shot. That would be good I think.
Much would need to be balanced for the aggressor if that became the case.
Wardecs are favorable to the defender believe it or not.
Most Defenders just can't be arsed enough to actually do anything about it
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Valkin Mordirc
1959
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Posted - 2016.03.14 04:16:11 -
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Zappity wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:Wardecs are favorable to the defender believe it or not. lol
Rather than post a throw-away, why don't you give me your reason why?
You've always been a pretty vocal person. Why don't you embellish that and give me reason's?
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Valkin Mordirc
1962
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Posted - 2016.03.14 06:23:33 -
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ImYourMom wrote:and thats fine but how are they even affording to have so many wardecs? it cant be sustainable surely. the pricing structure wqs supposed to stop all that and making it just far too expensive to war dec so many
Most of the times it's a combination of things. Passive income via a holding-POCO's-corp, Donations from members of alliance,
Active income, Trading done by the CEO, CEO has a Nullsec background and uses is overflow to fund is Highsec Alliance, Contracts fulfilled by taking down POCO/POS for clients, and so forth.
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Valkin Mordirc
1962
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Posted - 2016.03.14 07:31:19 -
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All you've done is generalize a 1000+ different people into one category.
Why do you think that the Defending corp is at a disadvantage?
Quote: 1. You want to be able to legally kill assets or ships in highsec. These are typically declared against relatively defenceless industry corps. This is where my experience is - it is hugely lucrative.
I've always disliked this argument for couple reasons,
1. If a Newbro went into Tama with a bling fitted Battleship. Most people in Null/Lowsec wouldn't care if he was new or not. They would pop him and move. Same goes for a wardec in highsec.
(If you honestly would let him go, then good on you though)
2. Yes taking out Highsec assists like POS and POCO's can make you ISK. Contracts are very great away for a Wardeccing corp to make profit. But again, if you go out Lowsec and put a POCO and you can't defend it. Guess what? You don't deserve to have it. Yeah?
Quote: 2. You want easy kills from unsupported solo pilots at trade hubs or pipes. These are typically declared against huge alliances to increase the chances of harvesting the daft.
All lowsec people want to do smartbomb pods in a T3 because it's easy and pods don't shoot back.
I can generalize to and it doesn't help the situation in the slightest.
Huge Alliances like EVE-Uni are a huge threat to Merc alliances. If you treat them like newbs you going to loose a ship. Which happens a lot.
Oh and although I do Camp hubs sometimes, I also hunt, I'd and have gone out to Solitude if my locater found someone there.
Quote:3. You actually want to fight another corp. I can't remember the last time this actually happened outside of RvB.
When my corp was active, we actively found corps that would fight back. So No not me.
Anyways
Quote:The reason a deployable structure which can be attacked to end the war dec would be a good idea is because there is currently no practical way to force a fight with highsec wardec corps. They just dock up. This would give a small indy corp a way (likely via mercs which would be healthy) to attack the dec itself.
Sure, it would make a declaration against a capable alliance risky. So what?
Because, Believe it or not, I want Wardecs to be rehashed tweaked and reworked into some better.
Defenders have all the advantages but no reason to use them. That is the problem. Giving them a get out jail free card is an excuse slip. Not a reason.
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Valkin Mordirc
1982
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Posted - 2016.03.15 08:02:18 -
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Zappity wrote:People disband because there is no real way to take the fight to wardec corps. Putting something out in space that can be attacked ticks the goal of getting the defender to take action involving spaceships exploding rather than avoiding interaction.
I know I didn't actually say it before,
But It's easier to roll a corp when you get decced then it is to fight.
That's also what I meant when I said things needed to balanced out.
This idea would simply make Wardecs completely useless on all fronts. Larger corps could just blob and small corps would just roll.
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