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Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:14:00 - [1] After reading about the allegations concerning BoB and CCP, I have the belief that the following should happen. No CCP employee should lose their job over this. But..... BoB as an alliance should be officially disbanded by CCP. .. it seems CCP are unwilling to do this... Therefore every entity in the game should make it their personal business to eliminate BoB from the game. .. if the EVE community is unwilling to do this.... You should all unplug your keyboards and find some other game to play because this one is broken. Thankyou for reading.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.10 05:29:00 - [2] Edited by: Nez Perces on 10/02/2007 05:28:34 Originally by: Maya Rkell Nez Perces, you're still bitter? Oh please. Unless you ban the players from playing together, BoB would continue. You are supporting the cheaters, Goonfleet, and their pet hacker. Your high horse...isn't. Get over losing to BoB and move on. First off stop trying to muddy the waters by dragging other issues into the main one... lets try and address the BoB issue. Do explain what I am bitter about..... even if I was, I very much doubt you would know towards whom it is my bitterness is reserved or even the reasons why. I like BoB very much.... I think they are a great bunch of guys. But... their organisation is now tainted beyond repair.. and if CCP is not careful so will their's be. If BoB care about the game they will disband. If CCP care about the game they will disband BoB. What will this achieve?.. it will send a clear message. If you are a developer playing within an alliance, and you are found guilty of misconduct, however small, you will have killed that alliance. Yes the BoB players would in all likelyhood join up under a different banner.. having the alliance disbanded though would be a substantial inconvenience.. and would demonstrate that this kind of behaviour by Devs or the alliances they play for will not be tolerated.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.10 05:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Herculite Several hundred players should have what they worked for torn down because one dev cheated to give his character a saber bpo's and some ammo bpos? Yes........ the misconduct is serious enough to warrant it.. and in the interests of the wellbeing of the game of as a whole it would be a very small price to pay. Its just a game after all... and I do not know what this "work" is that you speak of.....
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.10 05:52:00 - [4] Originally by: 0August0 So you'd punish players for the actions of a dev? Wow that's fair... Yes absolutely... what better message to send... If you are a DEV and you help an alliance you are running the risk of destroying said alliance. I cant think of a better way to ensure this never happens again.. however innocent .. the underlying intention.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.10 06:03:00 - [5] Originally by: Maya Rkell Get over losing to BoB and move on. You know thats funny... when did I or any alliance I have been in lose to BoB? I mean lose a war not a fleet battle... None ..... I have never been in an alliance that has lost a war to BoB. So my high horse is just fine thankyou very much... I also have never been in an alliance that has recieved developer help.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.10 07:50:00 - [6] Originally by: BobFromMarketing Originally by: Troubadour lol, a few crappy T2 blueprints are handed out to a bob member and all of a sudden every single time you lost against them you can blame it on haxploits? Face it, you are losing because they are better then you. There is nothing worse then a bunch of sore losers. Besides, i'm sure if devs were doing stuff like making nodes and players crash in bob's favor, someone at CCP would of noticed by now. Only every single person they kill it seems nowadays comes on the forums to whine about it and call haxploit. Without any proof, STFU. kthx. Ok, let me run a real world example of why people are paranoid now. You're dating a chick, and she goes out all the time but you never give it a second thought because thats your woman and she loves you(or whatever). One day you find out she cheated on you(or the last guy) but decide to stay with her, now all those times when she goes out you dont really trust her anymore, you become paranoid because of an unrelated(yet related) fact. She could just be going out with the girls having a good time and going home no harm no foil. Or she could be getting boinked by some guy thats better looking than you every night of the week. Regardless the chain of trust is broken and at this point its almost impossible for CCP or the imaginary girl to repair with simple words. So the paranoia is really quite standard. QFT
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.10 08:04:00 - [7] Edited by: Nez Perces on 10/02/2007 08:01:53 Originally by: Degaal Valen I'd really take issue with any broad-sweeping action on CCP's part that penalized the innocent along with the guilty. To put it bluntly I felt like I was the victim of something similar at the hands of BoB, blindly labeling all goons a cancer, comparing us to terrorists, etc, and I'd rather not see the same thing done to the innocent amongst them. More importantly I'd be upset at anything that ruined my chance to enjoy an in-game battle with my alliance against another alliance I have felt took things to a personal level unnecessarily last summer. I still remember that stuff said about us last summer by BoB leaders and the hypocracy of comments about goonswarm not caring about the EVE community and being a cancer on it while BoB was receving inside information and T2 BPOs is not lost on me in the slightest. Yes looking back the irony is strong is it not... BoB did their holy crusade against Goons on the very pretext that they had overstepped the boundaries of what is acceptable within EVE. Well.... whaddya know huh.... However there is a crucial difference... Goons can be accused of poor taste.. but they cannot be accused of looking the other way in the face of developer collusion. In my books the accusations BoB is faced with are far worse... they attack the very point of playing a fiercely competitive pvp game like EVE where even the smallest advantage can have a ripple effect with unforseen consequences. And IMO some big sweeping punishment from CCP should be forthcoming.. if for no other reason than to protect the meritocracy inherent in the EVE system.. where through collective effort things can be achieved and competitiveness on an alliance scale is not determined by whether you have devs onboard or not. Cause if EVE is not a true meritocracy.. I don't wanna be here. We got enough of that crap in RL.

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