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Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 8143	Posted - 2016.03.16 17:36:36 - [1] - Quote Interesting news recently of an unknown group coming to the aid of the Caldari Navy against a Guristas convoy. I also admittedly find Wing Commander Korrado's comments as to the unknown party 'operating illegally,' given that low-security space is subject to extremely limited controls. Perhaps this indicates that the group in question wasn't in fact Capsuleer, but was a baseliner group? While we're given freedom of movement, I assume baseliners are subject to more stringent controls...? Thoughts, pilots? Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1029	Posted - 2016.03.16 17:41:57 - [2] - Quote Contrary to your statement lowsec does, infact, still have lots of rules in regards to Capsuleer engagement. The issue isn't that said rules exist, but rather that without CONCORD patrols enforcing them, they're routinely ignored. A Criminally flagged pilot is still a Criminal. But to get back to the point, I too find this affair curious. I wouldn't be so fast to discount possible Capsuleer involvement however, in light of the above. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Rook Moray Cell 13 Salvage 69	Posted - 2016.03.16 17:49:00 - [3] - Quote You find this "curious?" "An abridged report on the destruction of the convoy which was provided alongside the statement from the Caldari Navy contained details of a number of frigate and cruiser class escort vessels, as well as two Charon-class freighters loaded with clone reanimation units and medical equipment, all of which was destroyed. It is believed that an estimated four thousand Guristas personnel were killed in the assault, including medical and security staff along with crew and passengers." The State just fcking murdered FOUR THOUSAND* people in a medical convoy and you find it "curious?" This sht ain't over. not by a damn sight! GÇ£When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.GÇ¥* -Guristas Proverb.
Jaret Victorian Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 333	Posted - 2016.03.16 17:53:48 - [4] - Quote Quote: It is believed that an estimated four thousand Guristas personnel were killed in the assault, including medical and security staff along with crew and passengers. I am sure detaining the said Charons instead of shredding them to pieces would've helped the investigation. Can't say I feel too sympathetic towards Guristas, but still, freighters are mostly defenseless. I am more than sure that the Navy is able to apprehend a bunch of doctors and passengers. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Follow us on GalNet!
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 8144	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:04:04 - [5] - Quote At the same time, Utari, the pilots who came to the aid of the Caldari Navy, to our knowledge, had not engaged in any criminal acts. They were engaging known pirates. Criminal flagging in this case would only occur if the unknowns had engaged unflagged pilots, and they very explicitly did not engage the CN vessels. So-- how were they operating illegally, if they were unknown parties? Was it lack of CISC transponders, then? Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Jaret Victorian Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 333	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:06:34 - [6] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: So-- how were they operating illegally, if they were unknown parties? Was it lack of CISC transponders, then? Maybe just a gang of mercs or bounty hunters. Plenty of them out there and they all know what money they can get for getting rid of known pirates. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Follow us on GalNet!
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1029	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:06:56 - [7] - Quote Millions die every day in the cluster to one **** up or the next. These people were employees of a known Criminal organisation. Their lives were already forfeit when they took up the jobs and I'm sure they knew it. As for the medical equipment, let me guess they were going to use it to cure Vitoxin or treat some poor orphans right? No, they were carrying clone tech, which implies something akin to them wanting to create clones for pilots or ground troops. I for one applaud the Caldari Navy for successfully putting a dent into that particular plan. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Jaret Victorian Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 333	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:08:30 - [8] - Quote Utari Onzo wrote: Millions die every day in the cluster to one **** up or the next. These people were employees of a known Criminal organisation. Their lives were already forfeit when they took up the jobs and I'm sure they knew it. As for the medical equipment, let me guess they were going to use it to cure Vitoxin or treat some poor orphans right? No, they were carrying clone tech, which implies something akin to them wanting to create clones for pilots or ground troops. I for one applaud the Caldari Navy for successfully putting a dent into that particular plan. Plenty of bad things happen every second. Being aware of such acts means you are aware of the problem and is a first step on the way of not being a part of it. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Follow us on GalNet!
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1029	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:10:56 - [9] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: At the same time, Utari, the pilots who came to the aid of the Caldari Navy, to our knowledge, had not engaged in any criminal acts. They were engaging known pirates. Criminal flagging in this case would only occur if the unknowns had engaged unflagged pilots, and they very explicitly did not engage the CN vessels. So-- how were they operating illegally, if they were unknown parties? Was it lack of CISC transponders, then? Often with military operations, you tend to stop unknown parties getting involved. Even if they might be a help, by not being part pf your command and control they can also be a hinderance. Further, as you are painfully aware under CONCORD laws of salvage, it's likely the Navy made claim to the assets inside the Charons. If Capsuleers were trying to "help" destroy the freighters to take the cloning tech outside of the Navy's permission, then that would be an illegal action in my opinion. In short, unless you were invited to the party, don't gate crash on the Navy. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1029	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:12:56 - [10] - Quote Jaret Victorian wrote: Utari Onzo wrote: Millions die every day in the cluster to one **** up or the next. These people were employees of a known Criminal organisation. Their lives were already forfeit when they took up the jobs and I'm sure they knew it. As for the medical equipment, let me guess they were going to use it to cure Vitoxin or treat some poor orphans right? No, they were carrying clone tech, which implies something akin to them wanting to create clones for pilots or ground troops. I for one applaud the Caldari Navy for successfully putting a dent into that particular plan. Plenty of bad things happen every second. Being aware of such acts means you are aware of the problem and is a first step on the way of not being a part of it. And publically and openly broadcasting locations of towers so it's easy for pirates to third party rescue efforts is really avoiding being part of the problem too, right? Way to miss the rest of my point about these being employees of a criminal organisation as well. These people were part of a problem. They were removed and became part of a problem no longer. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Sinjin Mokk Angelis Exploration 788	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:32:02 - [11] - Quote Utari Onzo wrote: Millions die every day in the cluster to one **** up or the next. These people were employees of a known Criminal organisation. Their lives were already forfeit when they took up the jobs and I'm sure they knew it. As for the medical equipment, let me guess they were going to use it to cure Vitoxin or treat some poor orphans right? No, they were carrying clone tech, which implies something akin to them wanting to create clones for pilots or ground troops. I for one applaud the Caldari Navy for successfully putting a dent into that particular plan. If the State engaged a Federation civilian convoy, killing several thousand people, the leaders of that force would be brought to trial for war crimes. But when the State does it to a "Criminal Organization," this is acceptable to you because they knew the risks when they signed on? Obviously, no one here has any moral high ground to stand on, but I find it curious that you rail so loudly against the actions of someone like Nauplius, but when an ally of the Empire engages in a similar atrocity, it's acceptable. Curious indeed. "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1029	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:35:18 - [12] - Quote Nauplius kills innocents and needs to be purged The Gurristas kill millions more innocents and engage in activities that harm the Empire and the State. They too need to be purged. I make no apologies for this. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2486	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:44:24 - [13] - Quote My thought? Don't put your nose into Caldari business, dishonorable liar Makoto. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 659	Posted - 2016.03.16 18:59:57 - [14] - Quote Turning Guris into a few light-second long smears in space is an atrocity now? Well then. If that is an atrocity, I wonder where the actions of Guris, Angels, Serps, Blooders and Sansha falls on the scale, because there's frankly not much room on the other side of 'atrocity' to work with.
Tyrukko Sakala Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch Arataka Research Consortium 1	Posted - 2016.03.16 19:01:15 - [15] - Quote Rook Moray wrote: You find this "curious?" "An abridged report on the destruction of the convoy which was provided alongside the statement from the Caldari Navy contained details of a number of frigate and cruiser class escort vessels, as well as two Charon-class freighters loaded with clone reanimation units and medical equipment, all of which was destroyed. It is believed that an estimated four thousand Guristas personnel were killed in the assault, including medical and security staff along with crew and passengers." The State just fcking murdered FOUR THOUSAND* people in a medical convoy and you find it "curious?" This sh*t ain't over. not by a damn sight! I find this ironic considering what the guri do on a regular basis.
Sinti Vailatti Angelis Exploration 76	Posted - 2016.03.16 19:31:24 - [16] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: Turning Guris into a few light-second long smears in space is an atrocity now? Well then. If that is an atrocity, I wonder where the actions of Guris, Angels, Serps, Blooders and Sansha falls on the scale, because there's frankly not much room on the other side of 'atrocity' to work with. Just sayin, but if it were Matari lives, you'd be singing a different song. And U/K are just as criminal as the Guris. So the State are just as bad as everyone else. How is this news? GÇ£Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves.GÇ¥
Aria Jenneth Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1992	Posted - 2016.03.16 19:39:20 - [17] - Quote Considering all the military uses of cloning technology, it seems like the difference between "medical staff" and "ordinance technician" is narrowing in certain places to whether the ordinance talks when in use.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 5973	Posted - 2016.03.16 19:54:41 - [18] - Quote No tears when a Security operation takes out known criminals. "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 8145	Posted - 2016.03.16 20:06:17 - [19] - Quote To be honest, I'd say more unarmed ships are destroyed on the trade lines in secure space on a daily basis than this operation cost. Perhaps it's callous of me, but I can't find myself to make much of the loss of life, compared to the death toll we ignore on a daily basis. While medical personnel aren't an ideal target, I doubt the Caldari Navy knew what the cargo was until after; they were simply engaging a Guristas logistics convoy. What's more noteworthy are the unknown pilots, their discipline, and how exactly they were 'operating illegally,' given that they had not engaged the navy. Admittedly, the argument that operating near the navy in a combat situation is a legitimate grounds for engagement would be fair, were Capsuleers not given such wide latitude for travel without interference. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Deitra Vess Scope Works 970	Posted - 2016.03.16 20:19:06 - [20] - Quote "And in Regional news, The Caldari Navy does their job...."

Morgan Wulver Night Theifs 91	Posted - 2016.03.16 21:46:51 - [21] - Quote Correct me if I'm wrong, or if this has already been stated, but for a echelon of fighters and fighter-bombers to come into contact in Black Rise they'd have to be scrambled in-system from an on-station super-carrier. While an independent group of capsuleers operating capital ships inside low-sec isn't unheard of there are major restrictions in how they can be employed, especially in a conflict region like Black Rise. If a super-carrier really is out there acting in support of Caldari Navy forces, with apparently excellent intel capable of identifying and responding to a Guristas convoy, that hints at a well structured outfit used to operating in the area. However, if these were capsuleers one would think such a force would have ties to the militia in some way or at the very least would have been properly identified at the moment of its involvement in the CN operation. Otherwise I find it hard to believe an independent pilot could successfully get away with moving a super-carrier in system, remaining unknown to local forces, collecting intel on Gurista troop movements, and scrambling a wing of fighters to intercept. All the while keeping their damn mouth shut and declining to take credit for a seemingly well coordinated strike worthy of fame and admiration, no less. Whoever did this very clearly wasn't Navy, militia, or even a capsuleer. They had some personal reason for attacking that convoy, which just happened to be chock full of CRU units normally reserved for ground combatants or similar reanimation technology. Curiouser and curiouser, indeed. I'll have to put my feelers out in the mercenary community and see if anyone has any sort of idea of who could have pulled this off. Whoever did this, I want to meet them. *Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!*
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 666	Posted - 2016.03.16 22:05:50 - [22] - Quote Rook Moray wrote: The State just fcking murdered FOUR THOUSAND* people in a medical convoy and you find it "curious?" This sh*t ain't over. not by a damn sight! I think that I've killed more Guristas before breakfast almost every day I lived in Deklein. Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar. Retainer of House Sarum
Deitra Vess Scope Works 972	Posted - 2016.03.16 22:17:41 - [23] - Quote Rook Moray wrote: You find this "curious?" "An abridged report on the destruction of the convoy which was provided alongside the statement from the Caldari Navy contained details of a number of frigate and cruiser class escort vessels, as well as two Charon-class freighters loaded with clone reanimation units and medical equipment, all of which was destroyed. It is believed that an estimated four thousand Guristas personnel were killed in the assault, including medical and security staff along with crew and passengers." The State just fcking murdered FOUR THOUSAND* people in a medical convoy and you find it "curious?" This sh*t ain't over. not by a damn sight! Maybe they shouldn't be flying medical personnel unguarded through enemy territory? If I was stupid enough to fly a freighter through amar, caldari, honestly any space controlled by the major empires everyone on board and I would die too. The blame lies on the idiots flying the freighters not the Caldari Navy. How stupid can you be? They signed up to be an enemy of the state, maybe they should have chosen wiser, or simply used common sense in planning routes....
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2489	Posted - 2016.03.16 23:20:49 - [24] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Rook Moray wrote: You find this "curious?" "An abridged report on the destruction of the convoy which was provided alongside the statement from the Caldari Navy contained details of a number of frigate and cruiser class escort vessels, as well as two Charon-class freighters loaded with clone reanimation units and medical equipment, all of which was destroyed. It is believed that an estimated four thousand Guristas personnel were killed in the assault, including medical and security staff along with crew and passengers." The State just fcking murdered FOUR THOUSAND* people in a medical convoy and you find it "curious?" This sht ain't over. not by a damn sight! Maybe they shouldn't be flying medical personnel unguarded through enemy territory? If I was stupid enough to fly a freighter through amar, caldari, honestly any space controlled by the major empires everyone on board and I would die too. The blame lies on the idiots flying the freighters not the Caldari Navy. How stupid can you be? They signed up to be an enemy of the state, maybe they should have chosen wiser, or simply used common sense in planning routes.... Or maybe they should. They make the job easier. And no, that's not "murdered". That's "executed for piracy". Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.* In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 1860	Posted - 2016.03.17 00:11:37 - [25] - Quote Rook Moray wrote: You find this "curious?" "An abridged report on the destruction of the convoy which was provided alongside the statement from the Caldari Navy contained details of a number of frigate and cruiser class escort vessels, as well as two Charon-class freighters loaded with clone reanimation units and medical equipment, all of which was destroyed. It is believed that an estimated four thousand Guristas personnel were killed in the assault, including medical and security staff along with crew and passengers." The State just fcking murdered FOUR THOUSAND* people in a medical convoy and you find it "curious?" This sh*t ain't over. not by a damn sight! I'm sure there's a petition for that. Making Kestrels Great Again. Kappa.
Nakito Kobara Yamagata Syndicate Yulai Federation 65	Posted - 2016.03.17 06:53:30 - [26] - Quote Well done to everyone involved in taking down the pirate fleet. Now...who was the 3rd party??!! Yamagata Syndicate - Null sec combat corporation. Join today!
Yarosara Ruil Haighare Pirates 148	Posted - 2016.03.17 10:51:02 - [27] - Quote Alizabeth Vea wrote: I think that I've killed more Guristas before breakfast almost every day I lived in Deklein. They were propbably too dumb to live anyways. Good riddance! The Guristas corporate ladder is way more cutthroat than the one in the State! An honest to the core Guristas Pirate can, and probably will, sell his own grandmother and stab his friends in the back if it adds up an extra zero to their wallet or drops the Caldari Navy down a notch. Since there are so many splinter cell groups inside the Guristas and most of them being fully independent of each other, murderkilling a few of them only improves the overall quality of the organization! And that is why they're the best pirate organization in New Eden. Anyone want a sip of rum?
Gosakumori Noh Hematology Advancement Program I N G L O R I O U S 771	Posted - 2016.03.18 06:08:17 - [28] - Quote Yarosara Ruil wrote: The Guristas corporate ladder is way more cutthroat than the one in the State! An honest to the core Guristas Pirate can, and probably will, sell his own grandmother and stab his friends in the back if it adds up an extra zero to their wallet. In those early days of the Arek'Jambalaya project, I recall Gurista elements being interested primarily in sabotage and theft of trade secrets. Their posture stood in pointed contrast to the remarkable efforts of Revan Neferis and the archaeological powerhouse called Valate - though it makes sense for a self-empowerment movement to lead by positive example. I cannot in good faith say that nothing good comes from Guristas, however. The Gila pleases me without limit - as fine a zombie carapace cracking utensil as ever there was.
Soldarius O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore 1484	Posted - 2016.03.18 14:34:30 - [29] - Quote Nakito Kobara wrote: Well done to everyone involved in taking down the pirate fleet. Now...who was the 3rd party??!! I'm guessing these Valkyrie guys: https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-urges-caution-after-rogue-messages-appear-on-hacked-scc-billboards/ The timing of the attack and the hacking of billboards urging attacks on Guristas is too close to be coincidental imo. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Rook Moray Cell 13 Salvage 73	Posted - 2016.03.18 17:37:16 - [30] - Quote Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: I'm sure there's a petition for that. Was just filed. [quote=Soldarius I'm guessing these Valkyrie guys: https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-urges-caution-after-rogue-messages-appear-on-hacked-scc-billboards/ The timing of the attack and the hacking of billboards urging attacks on Guristas is too close to be coincidental imo. [/quote] Give that man a cigar. Valkyries...."Let's make our ships smaller and more fragile they said. It'll be fun they said." Now...someone said rum? GÇ£When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.GÇ¥ -Guristas Proverb.



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