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CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 951	Posted - 2016.03.22 10:53:40 - [1] - Quote We've released a new launcher version, 1021473, that keeps track of last build downloaded per server so that on startup, it doesn't have scan all files in the index to determine if anything needs to be downloaded. This should especially help with Wine versions. We've also updated the Wine version used by default. This should address issues some players have had with starting up Wine, especially on older OS X versions, no longer falling back to XQuartz. If you haven't tried EVE under Wine yet, I encourage you to do so. To enable it, go to Preferences... in the menu bar for the launcher, select Wine for the wrapper and restart the launcher. See https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6380823#post6380823 for more information. Note that settings are not automatically migrated over - I'm still working on that bit. Please tell us about any issues you have with running under Wine - we don't fix issues we don't know about! Of course, positive feedback is always appreciated as well, keeps us motivated :) CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax

Amarisen Gream Divine Demise Apocalypse Now. 232	Posted - 2016.03.22 11:40:16 - [2] - Quote great work CCP. I look forward to working with you for years to come "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1 DIDE- is open to new members
Haru'kai Vidaraltyr 2	Posted - 2016.03.22 13:17:37 - [3] - Quote The WINE set-up has been excellent so far, thank you. Just a note: today, after logging on after downtime, I have experienced a very odd graphical glitch. When travelling through a gate, the screen is taken over by a full-screen advert for Citadels and Project Discovery. This locks the screen, with no inputs recognised, not even ESC. The first couple of times it went away after a minute or so. I rebooted, but the next jump triggered the same. The third time after reboot, the adverts continued into a Gurista event ad, and I had to terminate with Force Quit. In addition, after the first hijack, all my UI windows (overview, d-scan etc) went to a black, opaque background and no transparency. Unpinning them brought back the usual colour, but pinning them caused them to go back to black background after a few moments. I run the client in WINE on a recent 5k iMac. Hope this is useful. (May need to download a Gal-Net Ad-Blocker ) The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 951	Posted - 2016.03.22 13:26:23 - [4] - Quote Haru'kai Vidaraltyr wrote: The WINE set-up has been excellent so far, thank you. Just a note: today, after logging on after downtime, I have experienced a very odd graphical glitch. When travelling through a gate, the screen is taken over by a full-screen advert for Citadels and Project Discovery. This locks the screen, with no inputs recognised, not even ESC. The first couple of times it went away after a minute or so. I rebooted, but the next jump triggered the same. The third time after reboot, the adverts continued into a Gurista event ad, and I had to terminate with Force Quit. In addition, after the first hijack, all my UI windows (overview, d-scan etc) went to a black, opaque background and no transparency. Unpinning them brought back the usual colour, but pinning them caused them to go back to black background after a few moments. I run the client in WINE on a recent 5k iMac. Hope this is useful. (May need to download a Gal-Net Ad-Blocker ) We're investigating this issue, it is not limited to Wine. Logs would be useful, if you get this to happen with LogLite running. Please file a bug report and attach the saved log from LogLite. This may be happening when the client runs low on video memory, so running at a lower resolution may help, or lowering graphics settings, particularly for post processing. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax

Trevor Dalech We pooped on your lawn Resonance. 233	Posted - 2016.03.23 12:58:29 - [5] - Quote As of today, the WINE wrapper stopped working for me. It used to first launch Xquartz, and then start EVE clients inside of that. Now it doesn't launch Xquartz, and nothing happens on clicking the play button. Activity monitor shows a wine server and 4 wine processes starting up, and then closing after a minute or two (after which the 'play' button in the launcher reverts from its 'stop' icon back to its 'play' icon.) Anyone else having troubles?

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 952	Posted - 2016.03.23 13:06:25 - [6] - Quote Trevor Dalech wrote: As of today, the WINE wrapper stopped working for me. It used to first launch Xquartz, and then start EVE clients inside of that. Now it doesn't launch Xquartz, and nothing happens on clicking the play button. Activity monitor shows a wine server and 4 wine processes starting up, and then closing after a minute or two (after which the 'play' button in the launcher reverts from its 'stop' icon back to its 'play' icon.) Anyone else having troubles? I've seen reports of issues on OS X 10.9 - what version are you on? The previous build of Wine is still available, try selecting the 1.8.1-test version rather than latest. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax

Trevor Dalech We pooped on your lawn Resonance. 233	Posted - 2016.03.23 13:13:10 - [7] - Quote I'm using 10.9 yes.

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 952	Posted - 2016.03.23 13:21:14 - [8] - Quote Trevor Dalech wrote: I'm using OSX 10.9 yes. Using the 1.8.1 WINE version appears to work. Well, there you go. Now you know how you can make my life easier, don't you? I'll keep at it, though, don't worry, I won't force you to upgrade. This thing can run on 10.9, just need to get the build configuration right. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax

Ronald Sotken Swag Yolo Industries 1	Posted - 2016.03.24 02:02:54 - [9] - Quote Still having the strange issue with billboard video playing in full screen when I jump into systems that have a billboard on gate, but its much more playable than using cider, and I appreciate that. I logged in no less than 12 hours ago, WINE wrapper worked fine, but now the latest WINE version results in the client not starting at all. The launcher shows a stop symbol and the bar goes green as if the client is launching, but then it goes back to a state of no client running. Using OS X 10.10.5, and WINE latest, launcher version 1021473 (according to About EVE Launcher) If I switch back to WINE version 1.8.1-test, it seems to work fine. I'll send a copy of the logs from LogLite and the client to you in an evemail.

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 954	Posted - 2016.03.30 20:16:46 - [10] - Quote I need some brave souls to try a new Wine version, especially if you've had problems with any of the previous versions. In Preferences, Wine options, select Use dev versions and select version wine-1.9.6-275-g1c97459-test. Restart the launcher, let it download the Wine version and see if it starts up. Please report back, either here in the forums or send me logs in EVE mail if it still doesn't work for you. I'm still struggling with finding a build configuration that works for everybody so your help in testing this is highly appreciated! CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax


Apoq Surrat Amarritus Patriotus 6	Posted - 2016.03.30 21:18:11 - [11] - Quote Tried your new 1.9.6 test, it seems to work fine on the mac pro in my signature, and on an older one I have with Radeon HD5870 video. Both are running El Capitan 10.11.4 MacPro dual 6-core Xeon 3.06ghz, 64GB ECC Ram, SSD, 2x SSHD, 2x HD, EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition. Running OS X El Capitan and Windows 10 Pro.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3798	Posted - 2016.03.30 22:08:52 - [12] - Quote It worked! No Xquartz either. Also, the odd scrolling behavior went away. (That is, with the older versions, scrolling in the hangar window would sometimes cause it to jump to the contents of a station container. Or scrolling the prices in the market data window would cause it to jump to a different item.) I'll keep using this one until you say I can switch to something else. Edit: In the Dev list, wine-1.9.6-275-g1c97459-test is shown twice. I do not know if there is a difference, but I tried the top one. Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2339	Posted - 2016.03.31 08:03:54 - [13] - Quote CCP Snorlax wrote: I need some brave souls to try a new Wine version, especially if you've had problems with any of the previous versions. In Preferences, Wine options, select Use dev versions and select version wine-1.9.6-275-g1c97459-test. Restart the launcher, let it download the Wine version and see if it starts up. Please report back, either here in the forums or send me logs in EVE mail if it still doesn't work for you. I'm still struggling with finding a build configuration that works for everybody so your help in testing this is highly appreciated! wine-1.8.1-test: works fine wine-1.9.5-200-gcf4020b-ccp-daily-6: does not launch. Launcher indicator turns green for a while, and then reverts to blue with no client being launched wine-1.9.6-275-g1c97459-test: loads client and looks fine as far as I can tell Why Do They Gank?

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 954	Posted - 2016.03.31 10:01:04 - [14] - Quote OK, version wine-1.9.6-275-g1c97459-test works on all machines I have access to, and has been confirmed by a few people to work where the previous one didn't. I've made this version the default - now we just need to get more people on board! I'll post an update to the launcher itself today or tomorrow that has settings migration from Cider to Wine. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax

jonmar Enraged Bears 0	Posted - 2016.03.31 10:37:20 - [15] - Quote Model Name:iMac (mid 2007) Model Identifier:iMac7,1 Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.8 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:2 L2 Cache:4 MB Memory:6 GB Bus Speed:800 MHz Boot ROM Version:IM71.007A.B03 SMC Version (system):1.21f4 All previous Wine versions failed with the exception of 1.8.1 (including dev versions). This latest build (1.9.6-275-g1c97459-test) is successful. Well done. I appreciate my machine is somewhat long in the tooth though it still performs admirably. Your efforts have improved my screen rate from 20fps to 30fps. Multi client causes a slowdown but not as significant as Cider. Overall response to mouse click and events generally "feels" better.
Planeten Schreck Bittersweet Corp 6	Posted - 2016.03.31 15:00:44 - [16] - Quote Hi, i can confirm that the todays wine version works on my mac with 10.9.5. This system didt work with the older wine versions. I also tryed the develop launcher version and the settings migration. This works fine excpet that the very first lauch of wine with a profile is allways in fullscreen, but if you change this setting in the client, quit and restart the clients it starts also in window mode. i will switch the rest of my macs also to wine this evening. Ps: even the igb seems to work with wine. Thanks for the great improvents and sucess with the wine support so far.
Leora Risalo 21 Inc Alternate Allegiance 2	Posted - 2016.03.31 18:32:33 - [17] - Quote Did u update launcher today? now its not starting :( wine screen is just white. how should i proceed?
Planeten Schreck Bittersweet Corp 7	Posted - 2016.03.31 20:22:02 - [18] - Quote Hi, switched the rest of my mac's to wine this evening. 10.11.4 on both systems, Update and profile migration works good except that the first start of a migrated profile is always fullscreen (but it keeps the old resolution setting). igb works on every client i have tested, not a single chrash / hang on maybe 60-80 jumps, some combat sites, clicking links in chats !!!!!!, etc . A very large improvement over cider on my systems. Some additional impressions: - alt tab from fullscreen eve and back seems a little bit slower (white screen for some seconds) as before. - i can resize the eve windows and it works and changes the ingame res also, this never worked for me on cider - conneting a jbl bluetooth speaker need a restart of the client to get game sound out of it - alt tab sometimes give me icons for the ingame windowlist that i have never seen before, but this is not consitent. (maybe i can remap this key ingame). - i can now use fullscreen on my imac retina 5k, on cider this crashed after a few minutes. - the client still did not remember window positions - i can start multible clients in window / fullscreen and close them without problems i have now changed 4 Macs to wine: macpro 1,1 amd 5780 gpu 12 gb ram 10.9.5, Macbook retina 2012, 16 ram 10.11.4, macpro 3,1 10gb ram amd 5770 gpu 10.11.4, imac retina 27 5k 32 gb, 10.11.4. Everything works as least as good as before but mostly better. things to test for me: - gpu setting / qualtiy in different situations - 2 monitiors with 2-3 clients - starting multible clients with the launcher - fleets / combat - window Placement / window mode vs fixed window mode i am very happy with the improvements after several hours of testing. thanks ccp mac team
Neutrino Whisper Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.04.25 14:38:44 - [19] - Quote Ok so at the risk of sounding irritatingly stupid I tried to follow the instructions to turn on the WINE wrapper in the eve client. Short answer : There is NO such option available in the preferences section of my EVE client. I am running client at version : 2.2.999545. I see no option to update the client, I assume that the client will auto download its updates. Any help guys ? Neutrino

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 965	Posted - 2016.04.25 14:44:56 - [20] - Quote Neutrino Whisper wrote: Ok so at the risk of sounding irritatingly stupid I tried to follow the instructions to turn on the WINE wrapper in the eve client. Short answer : There is NO such option available in the preferences section of my EVE client. I am running client at version : 2.2.999545. I see no option to update the client, I assume that the client will auto download its updates. Any help guys ? Neutrino You are running the old launcher - download the new one from http://secure.eveonline.com/download, install it (it will reuse your shared cache) and migrate your settings over. See https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6227428#post6227428 for more info. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/


Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5039	Posted - 2016.04.30 00:54:27 - [21] - Quote I decided to be bold and venture out with Wine again... It literally crashed within 2-3 minutes of the session, and when I returned to the launcher it was downloading about 600-700 Wine files (there was no indication prior that anything was amiss). A few observations: GÇó Graphical anomalies (pixelation) with engine exhausts are not present in Wine with a high shader setting GÇó Graphical anomalies (pixelation) with gate or other cloaks are still present in Wine with a high shader setting When I attempted to launch a new session, the Overview had completely disappeared and the number of red errors spooled past 18,000 before I force quit it. I was also getting a faint split line down the center of the screen with one half slightly darker than the other. GÇó "err:d3d:resource_init Out of adapter memory" Third time's the charm... right? Nope. Warping to an asteroid belt I experienced intermittent flashes between the normal nebula and a completely white background. When I tried to access the menu the screen darkened but it wasn't present. The number of red errors spiralled past 389 with this single gem: GÇó Tr2Sprite2dScene::EndCapture failed (-2005532292) to create vertex buffer for 6624 vertices (512 KiB) On the plus side, the asteroid scenes (when not flashing white) have never been prettier. I don't think I was ever completely getting the effects from Asteroid Environments and Light Rays. What the heck, might as well go for broke and enable HRD. Looks absolutely fantastic - just as long as you don't mind the lack of clipping which renders the asteroids, environment and sun over your ship. When it's not crashing EVE really does look noticeably better under Wine. Fingers crossed... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 970	Posted - 2016.04.30 08:49:57 - [22] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: I decided to be bold and venture out with Wine again... It literally crashed within 2-3 minutes of the session, and when I returned to the launcher it was downloading about 600-700 Wine files (there was no indication prior that anything was amiss). A few observations: GÇó Graphical anomalies (pixelation) with engine exhausts are not present in Wine with a high shader setting GÇó Graphical anomalies (pixelation) with gate or other cloaks are still present in Wine with a high shader setting When I attempted to launch a new session, the Overview had completely disappeared and the number of red errors spooled past 18,000 before I force quit it. I was also getting a faint split line down the center of the screen with one half slightly darker than the other. GÇó "err:d3d:resource_init Out of adapter memory" Third time's the charm... right? Nope. Warping to an asteroid belt I experienced intermittent flashes between the normal nebula and a completely white background. When I tried to access the menu the screen darkened but it wasn't present. The number of red errors spiralled past 389 with this single gem: GÇó Tr2Sprite2dScene::EndCapture failed (-2005532292) to create vertex buffer for 6624 vertices (512 KiB) On the plus side, the asteroid scenes (when not flashing white) have never been prettier. I don't think I was ever completely getting the effects from Asteroid Environments and Light Rays. What the heck, might as well go for broke and enable HRD. Looks absolutely fantastic - just as long as you don't mind the lack of clipping which renders the asteroids, environment and sun over your ship. When it's not crashing EVE really does look noticeably better under Wine. Fingers crossed... What Wine version do you have selected? Look in Preferences for the launcher - make sure you leave 'Use dev versions' unchecked, and select latest. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5041	Posted - 2016.04.30 15:33:17 - [23] - Quote CCP Snorlax wrote: What Wine version do you have selected? Look in Preferences for the launcher - make sure you leave 'Use dev versions' unchecked, and select latest. I have "Use dev versions" unchecked, and the Wine version is set to "Latest". I just finished upgrading to OSX El Capitan so we'll soon see what impact this had... OS X El Capitan, v10.11.4 iMac Retina 5k, 27-inch (late 2014) 4GHZ Intel Core i7, 16GB DDR3, AMD Radeon R9 M295X 4GB GÇó Launched into window mode (previously this launched in fullscreen); I also re-copied client settings from Cider to Wine. GÇó In-station, pressing ESC to bring up the settings menu darkens the screen - but the menu is not present (you can mouseover and get various help dialogs, though). I relaunched and enabled both HDR and Resource Cache which seemed to at least temporarily address the issue. GÇó I undocked, tabbed in the Overview to make some changes and it disappeared (it didn't collapse to the Necom). Clicking and dragging around where the Overview previously was caused it to reappear. The settings menu (ESC) has disappeared again, but when I jumped through a gate I was able to re-access it. it should be noted that despite my best efforts, the ESC settings menu functioned intermittently regardless of graphic settings or whether docked or in-space. GÇó I was unable to bring up a preview of my ship; the box appeared but was solid black and red errors started flooding LogLite ("Clear failed). When I disabled HDR it worked - except I got a translucent version of the ship (you could the interior of everything). Changing aliasing options and then selecting a preview actually displayed the ship outside the preview box in the upper left corner. GÇó Changing between shader settings and aliasing levels in-game introduces some interesting visual anomalies: translucent ships, clipping issues with objects, Bastion and engine lights that appeared through ships and extreme pixelation around Bastion areas of the ship. GÇó Under a high shader setting, gate cloaks still have a pixelated and rough effect. Regular cloaks seem fine (not sure if the large hex pattern while cloaking is normal). GÇó The fitting window is seriously skewed. Like the ship preview, the rendered ship appears translucent and is placed outside the fitting window in the upper left corner of the main screen. GÇó When accessing the market, buy or sell order windows would periodically disappear behind all other windows making it seem like the transaction failed or just disappeared. I'm wondering if this is related to the window blur or window transparency features. GÇó Enabling HDR with a medium shader setting temporarily turns the entire screen black (everything disappears except ship icons). For this reason, it's definitely not recommended. GÇó Enabling/disabling Window Blur and changing the transparency settings has the frequent side of effect of turning overview items 100% opaque and/or rendering everything onscreen with a permanent blur (it's like playing EVE through a fish tank). Some observations: GÇó The graphics card shows as dx9/ATI Radeon X1600 Series, and I'm getting a fairly decent frame rate (~60fps with full graphic settings in asteroid environments). I took two screenshots with and without HDR enabled and honestly couldn't tell the difference. There was no perceptible difference in frame rate running with or without HDR. Under Cider, the graphics card correctly shows as AMD Radeon R9 M295X - so I'm assuming Wine has a more up-to-date or improved driver than Cider. GÇó I'm not sure what it is exactly, but ship rendering just looks better under Wine. The textures seem to be smoother and you really notice things like highlights, shadows and reflections. Even though on paper the frame rate is roughly the same, it appears less choppy through Wine. GÇó Accessing ship previews or the ESC settings menu is a crapshoot, at best. "Unreliable" to "non-existant" would be accurate terms. It's not an issue if your settings are fine as is, although it's not uncommon to change or reassign shortcuts. When trying to troubleshoot, it's an absolute PITA because you only seem to be able to access it after you dock or jump to a new system (and then only briefly). The preview option is actually prone to wreaking havoc with Wine, and I had to force quit two sessions where the EVE client became unresponsive. GÇó We really (really) need a command-Q option to just quit the sucker. These are the deal killers: GÇó The overview frequently disappears without warning. When stationary, when in-warp - there's no consistency. In PvP this is the kiss of death. GÇó Frequently (and by frequent, I mean every single game session) losing access to the ESC settings menu. If you need to remap any keys or change settings, you're basically hooped. GÇó Ship fitting (and to a lesser extent, ship preview) is glitched. While not a deal killer, it's pretty damn annoying to say the least. GÇó Anything relating to market orders that effects, influences or otherwise glitches buying or selling. GÇó Switching between graphics settings in-game results in invisible ships, translucent ships, black screens, blank screens and in general batsht crazy stuff. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.*
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5041	Posted - 2016.04.30 15:52:53 - [24] - Quote Just for kicks, I gave this a whirl with one of the dev versions (really, what do I have to lose at this point?) wine-1.9.8-76-ga9ede07-ccp-daily-29 (downloaded 749 new files) And it gets spam-flooded with red errors: GÇó "err:winsock:interface_bind Failed to bind to interface, receiving broadcast packets will not work on socket 0650." GÇó "err:d3d:resource_init Out of adapter memory" (this one isn't unique to dev Wine builds) wine-1.9.9-daily-138 GÇó "err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {5a508685-a254-4fba-9b82-9a24b00306af} could be created for context 0x1" GÇó "err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from multi-threaded to apartment threaded" GÇó Call Response received on client , but the call wasn't in self.calls, so the response will disappear... Packet::CallRsp GÇó "err:winsock:interface_bind Failed to bind to interface, receiving broadcast packets will not work on socket 0698." GÇó No registered file system could open C:/users/****/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/settings_c_program_files_ccp_eve_87.237.38.50/Browser/bookmarks.dat GÇó "err:d3d:resource_init Out of adapter memory" (we seem to have a winner here!) Observations: GÇó While undocking there was a momentary lag that prevented me from leaving the EVE game window GÇó While in-space, Neocom items will appear until you attempt to access the ESC settings window (which doesn't work), at which point everything is invisible until you dock and undock again. Incidentally, this is present in both the dev and latest versions of EVE wine. GÇó I think if you can resolve the issues with the ESC settings menu this will invariably fix or resolve the vast, vast majority of other graphic or screen-related anomalies (Necom items, ship preview, ship fitting, etc.) I'm now on to stability testing. We'll see how well things go today... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.*
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5041	Posted - 2016.04.30 15:59:14 - [25] - Quote CCP Snorlax, is there a way to purge the existing Wine setup and redownload it again? I'm not sure that would make any difference at this point, but I'm trying to rule everything out. Thanks. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 970	Posted - 2016.04.30 16:14:19 - [26] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: CCP Snorlax, is there a way to purge the existing Wine setup and redownload it again? I'm not sure that would make any difference at this point, but I'm trying to rule everything out. Thanks. Open the shared cache folder (View menu, Reveal in Finder, Shared Cache) and delete the wine and wineenv folders. Note that if you delete the wineenv folder you will lose all settings. If you want to maintain client settings you can delete everything from within wineenv except drive_c/users. Thank you for your diligence in testing this - your feedback is highly appreciated and helps me greatly in improving the Wine support. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5041	Posted - 2016.04.30 16:42:14 - [27] - Quote CCP Snorlax wrote: Open the shared cache folder (View menu, Reveal in Finder, Shared Cache) and delete the wine and wineenv folders. Note that if you delete the wineenv folder you will lose all settings. If you want to maintain client settings you can delete everything from within wineenv except drive_c/users. Thank you for your diligence in testing this - your feedback is highly appreciated and helps me greatly in improving the Wine support. I will give this a try and resume testing... Out of curiosity, in the SharedCache folder there are several files and folders. Can any of these be deleted? (assuming some are just archived/out-of-date?) cider_010474.tgz (Nov 4/2015) cider_010805.tgz (Nov 26/2015) cider_011059.tgz (Mar 18/2016) cider-EveOnlinePremium-iso--nodata-skel (Mar 9/2016) cider-EveOnlinePremium-iso-010474-nodata-skel (Dec 7/2015) cider-EveOnlinePremium-iso-010805-nodata-skel (Nov 3/2015) cider-EveOnlinePremium-iso-011059-nodata-skel (Mar 17/2016) I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 970	Posted - 2016.04.30 16:45:36 - [28] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: CCP Snorlax wrote: Open the shared cache folder (View menu, Reveal in Finder, Shared Cache) and delete the wine and wineenv folders. Note that if you delete the wineenv folder you will lose all settings. If you want to maintain client settings you can delete everything from within wineenv except drive_c/users. Thank you for your diligence in testing this - your feedback is highly appreciated and helps me greatly in improving the Wine support. I will give this a try and resume testing... Out of curiosity, in the SharedCache folder there are several files and folders. Can any of these be deleted? (assuming some are just archived/out-of-date?) cider_010474.tgz (Nov 4/2015) cider_010805.tgz (Nov 26/2015) cider_011059.tgz (Mar 18/2016) cider-EveOnlinePremium-iso--nodata-skel (Mar 9/2016) cider-EveOnlinePremium-iso-010474-nodata-skel (Dec 7/2015) cider-EveOnlinePremium-iso-010805-nodata-skel (Nov 3/2015) cider-EveOnlinePremium-iso-011059-nodata-skel (Mar 17/2016) Probably, yes, I'll verify when I'm in the office after the weekend. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5041	Posted - 2016.04.30 17:24:41 - [29] - Quote Wine testing (post-purge)... GÇó "Copy client settings from Cider to Wine" prompts "Destination folder for profile 'c_program_files_ccp_eve_87.237.38.50' for Tranquility is not empty. Do you want to overwrite existing files?" You actually need to click on "Yes" twice to get the "Client settings profiles have been copied from Cider to Wine" dialog. GÇó Initial launch is in fullscreen despite being in window mode. I don't believe this state is being correctly pulled from Cider or the option to copy client settings from Cider to Wine is resetting it to fullscreen by default. Once set to windowed, however - it does remain this way for subsequent launches (unless, again - you re-copy Cider settings to Wine). GÇó I have not had a single ESC settings menu, ship fitting or Necon item glitch. Not one. I have toggled between the following options: HDR, Anti-Aliasing, Post-Processing, Shader Quality, Texture Quality, LOD Quality and Shadow Quality, including the various options and disabling entirely. The only anomaly that I observed is that disabling anti-aliasing causes Bastion lights to be displayed through the ship hull in the Preview window. GÇó In addition, I have not experienced any of the graphic anomalies previously encountered. Zero, nadda. No translucent ships, no invisible ships, no pixelated portions of ships, no black screens, no blank screens, no ship previews being displayed outside of the Preview or Ship Fitting windows, etc. GÇó The Overview has remained steadfast, and despite my best efforts - refused to disappear. Observations: GÇó The gate cloak effect is still pixelated/rough. This was also an issue in Cider with the high shader setting, so I'm not sure it was ever addressed. GÇó Despite the superbly gorgeous ships in Wine, we're still missing out on the awesome new effects: shield boosters, armor hardeners, reactive armor hardeners, armor repairs and shield hits (no 'hex' shield hit bubbles or diminishing colors as they take damage). Errors: GÇó "err:winsock:interface_bind Failed to bind to interface, receiving broadcast packets will not work on socket 0670." GÇó Failed to get a valid ballpark in time after trying 30 times GÇó SpaceObject class not specified for group: 517 - defaulting to basic SpaceObject GÇó No registered file system could open C:/users/***/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/settings_c_program_files_ccp_eve_87.237.38.50/Browser/bookmarks.dat GÇó No registered file system could open cache:/Browser/browserHistory.txt GÇó No registered file system could open C:/users/**/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_tq_tranquility/cache/Browser/flaggedSites.dat GÇó Call Response received on client , but the call wasn't in self.calls, so the response will disappear... Packet::CallRsp Quite a few of these errors repeat: GÇó 60003760 Item 1021013994076 ( Optimal Range Script ) already has effect 3600 ( scriptTrackingComputerMaxRangeBonusBonus ) Started at: 2016.04.30 17:11:33 (Now is 2016.04.30 17:11:33 ) GÇó 60003760 Item 1021013994076 ( Optimal Range Script ) already has effect 6128 ( scriptMissileGuidanceComputerAOECloudSizeBonusBonus ) Started at: 2016.04.30 17:11:33 (Now is 2016.04.30 17:11:33 ) GÇó 60003760 Item 1021013994076 ( Optimal Range Script ) already has effect 6129 ( scriptMissileGuidanceComputerAOEVelocityBonusBonus ) Started at: 2016.04.30 17:11:33 (Now is 2016.04.30 17:11:33 ) GÇó 60003760 Item 1021013994076 ( Optimal Range Script ) already has effect 3686 ( scriptTrackingComputerFalloffBonusBonus ) Started at: 2016.04.30 17:11:33 (Now is 2016.04.30 17:11:33 ) GÇó 60003760 Item 1021013994076 ( Optimal Range Script ) already has effect 3599 ( scriptTrackingComputerTrackingSpeedBonusBonus ) Started at: 2016.04.30 17:11:33 (Now is 2016.04.30 17:11:33 ) I'm not sure if purging previous Wine installations with new updates is an option, but until all the 'quirks' are worked out of it - it may not be a bad idea. This certainly solved most if not all of the issues I've been experiencing. Stable and no crashes thus far. The quest continues... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.*
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5041	Posted - 2016.04.30 17:48:48 - [30] - Quote CCP Snorlax - just wanted to say thanks for all your efforts (they're greatly appreciated). After running for well over an hour without so much as a hitch - consider me officially converted and drinking the Wine! I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.


CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 970	Posted - 2016.04.30 18:02:43 - [31] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: CCP Snorlax - just wanted to say thanks for all your efforts (they're greatly appreciated). After running for well over an hour without so much as a hitch - consider me officially converted and drinking the Wine! Awesome - apologies for the extra pain you've experienced from being an early adopter. I guess I need to ensure that updating Wine versions doesn't leave any crap behind that interferes with running properly. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5046	Posted - 2016.05.01 22:09:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Snorlax wrote: Awesome - apologies for the extra pain you've experienced from being an early adopter. I guess I need to ensure that updating Wine versions doesn't leave any crap behind that interferes with running properly. Nth time's the charm! I'm on my second extended session (several hours) and not so much as a single glitch, crash or anomaly. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
KJS Simba SC 0	Posted - 2016.05.06 13:37:25 - [33] - Quote Does the IGB work in Wine? For me it still crashes 80-90% of the time.

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 977	Posted - 2016.05.06 13:41:35 - [34] - Quote KJS wrote: Does the IGB work in Wine? For me it still crashes 80-90% of the time. Yes, it works in Wine, have not had reports of it crashing. CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/

Alicia Dnari Dnari Mining and Manufacturing 5	Posted - 2016.05.18 21:23:13 - [35] - Quote I tried Wine. It crashed even before the client started up. Twice. So I went back to cider. :-(

CCP Snorlax C C P C C P Alliance 981	Posted - 2016.05.18 21:45:37 - [36] - Quote Alicia Dnari wrote: I tried Wine. It crashed even before the client started up. Twice. So I went back to cider. :-( Can you send me the launcher logs? Go to the View menu, Reveal in Finder, Launcher logs and put all the files there in a Dropbox or Google Drive and send me a link in EVE mail. It would also be helpful if you tried again, this time with LogLite running (start LogLite from the View menu). After it has crashed, go to LogLite, save the log and send me that file as well. I can only improve the stability with your help - I need the details to figure out what went wrong. Thank you for your effort! CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/



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