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Dasi
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Posted - 2007.02.12 08:46:00 -
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Ever? "All out Warfair" more like huddled behind a POS with fittings someone wouldn't dream of using in combat just to use its bonus."
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Bugszor
Caldari The Redeeming Age
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Posted - 2007.02.12 08:48:00 -
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A carrier wasnt meant to be at the battle. a carrier is MEANT TO BE at a poss assigning figters. that answers your question.
people who use carriers for gatecamping (yes some do lmao) are weirdly using it "wrong". i dont say its not allowed. its your choice. but what CCP tried to do is have carriers sit at posses and assign fighters. ------------------------------------ Dont make me bug you...
Originally by: Nex Angelus Perhaps it was a Bugszor 
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nieuwe harrie
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Posted - 2007.02.12 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: nieuwe harrie on 12/02/2007 08:45:56 i'm the dude above... damn this alt! (shoves myself intot he biomass thingy)
though finding a carrier AFK 600km from station is just perfect lmao :)
ever saw a omen take down a carrier? lmao
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Breed Love
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Bugszor A carrier wasnt meant to be at the battle. a carrier is MEANT TO BE at a poss assigning figters. that answers your question.
people who use carriers for gatecamping (yes some do lmao) are weirdly using it "wrong". i dont say its not allowed. its your choice. but what CCP tried to do is have carriers sit at posses and assign fighters.
thats just totally wrong. never heard ccp say that a carrier should "sit at a pos, assigning fighters". its meant to be in the battle, as a support ship, yes, but in the battle nevertheless.
Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!  
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.12 08:53:00 -
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Arrogance and Bandwaggons ftw 
Carriers arent meant to be used in battle? Hmm, thats what CCP designed them for. Only problem is Nos  ---
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Mikal Drey
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.12 08:55:00 -
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hey hey
For a ship thats "supposed" to be at a pos assigning fighters can it have a 15Au remote rep range then !
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.12 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mikal Drey hey hey
For a ship thats "supposed" to be at a pos assigning fighters can it have a 15Au remote rep range then !
Omfg That is the best idea ever. Repair fighters!!!!1!!11 And a remote camera placement so you can see who to put them on at the BF! ---
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Hydraxian
Gallente Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 09:37:00 -
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Dasi, seriously go watch "DamigeControl"... Damige in his "crap " Minnie carrier right on the front lines doing a nice bit of damge and more importantly keeping the gang alive, i do the same in my thanatos as do other corpies in theirs. Using carriers on the front lines just takes some balls...
And why the hell is there all this whining about the minnie carrier?? From what ive seen its one of the best front line carriers, due to it having MUCH better cap recharge rates (more mid slots for other stuff) and better lock times too... not to mention that the repping bonus is pretty useful when used in the right situation.
The thing to remember that carriers are rarely solo pwnmobiles (as the vid shows), you need GOOD PvPing Corpies to fly with otherwise your just a man/women in a expensive coffin tbh 
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Dasi
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Posted - 2007.02.12 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hydraxian Dasi, seriously go watch "DamigeControl"...
I will pursue this video file you speak of.
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Temptation inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.12 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hydraxian Dasi, seriously go watch "DamigeControl"... Damige in his "crap " Minnie carrier right on the front lines doing a nice bit of damge and more importantly keeping the gang alive, i do the same in my thanatos as do other corpies in theirs. Using carriers on the front lines just takes some balls...
And why the hell is there all this whining about the minnie carrier?? From what ive seen its one of the best front line carriers, due to it having MUCH better cap recharge rates (more mid slots for other stuff) and better lock times too... not to mention that the repping bonus is pretty useful when used in the right situation.
The thing to remember that carriers are rarely solo pwnmobiles (as the vid shows), you need GOOD PvPing Corpies to fly with otherwise your just a man/women in a expensive coffin tbh 
the minamater carrier skill only cuts it down by like 1 sec on lvl 5
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Drykor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.02.12 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum
the minamater carrier skill only cuts it down by like 1 sec on lvl 5
Yeah from 5 to 4 seconds for a cycle. What a great bonus compared to fighter damage bonus eh..
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Jarjar
Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.12 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 12/02/2007 11:21:30
Originally by: Hydraxian
And why the hell is there all this whining about the minnie carrier?? From what ive seen its one of the best front line carriers, due to it having MUCH better cap recharge rates (more mid slots for other stuff) and better lock times too...
Archon: 43250/3000 = 14,41666... cap/sec Chimera: 37500/2601,16 = 14,4166449 cap/sec Thanatos: 40000/2774,57 = 14,416648 cap/sec Nidhoggur: 35000/2427,75 = 14,41664 cap/sec
There you go, it actually has the worst cap of all carriers. Not that the difference matters...  Edit: Spelling.
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 12/02/2007 11:29:48
Quote: A carrier wasnt meant to be at the battle. a carrier is MEANT TO BE at a poss assigning figters. that answers your question.
tuxford/ccp says your wrong http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=437999&author=Tuxford
Originally by: Tuxford Short answer is, yeah we have a plan. Its quite cool, makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Carriers are being used by some on the frontlines even before the Kali 1. They should work out a bit better after the patch with increased hitpoints and boost to capital remote armor repping/shield boosting modules. Personally I think they need more fancy thingiemajiggies to get them on the frontlines, and the "plan" gives them that.
Originally by: tuxford Its not "Tuxford's grand plan of capital ships" its "CCP's plan", and the point is obviously not to make them solopwnmobiles.
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dasi
Originally by: Hydraxian Dasi, seriously go watch "DamigeControl"...
I will pursue this video file you speak of.
I also want to see this 
linkage? -
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.12 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alski
Originally by: Dasi
Originally by: Hydraxian Dasi, seriously go watch "DamigeControl"...
I will pursue this video file you speak of.
I also want to see this 
linkage?
Search damige on eve-files.com You'll see it ---
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.12 12:10:00 -
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Eve search failed me or i wouldent have asked, however - Linkage  -
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Phoenix Lord
The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2007.02.12 12:38:00 -
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The ships fine, its the pilots without balls thats the problem.
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.12 12:58:00 -
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Hah! Thats nothing, the chimera is what needs fixing... it's frickin' tiny.. ---
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Yukami Kido
Caldari Adeptus Illuminati Aegis Authentica Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.12 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Yukami Kido on 12/02/2007 13:14:41
Originally by: Grainsalt Hah! Thats nothing, the chimera is what needs fixing... it's frickin' tiny..
QFT
seriusly this thing is ridiculus i nearly mistook one for a rokh the other day its pathetic.
as to the minnie carrier i think the vid says it all.
(edited for sp although its probably still wrong)
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Hydraxian
Gallente Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jarjar Edited by: Jarjar on 12/02/2007 11:21:30
Originally by: Hydraxian
And why the hell is there all this whining about the minnie carrier?? From what ive seen its one of the best front line carriers, due to it having MUCH better cap recharge rates (more mid slots for other stuff) and better lock times too...
Archon: 43250/3000 = 14,41666... cap/sec Chimera: 37500/2601,16 = 14,4166449 cap/sec Thanatos: 40000/2774,57 = 14,416648 cap/sec Nidhoggur: 35000/2427,75 = 14,41664 cap/sec
There you go, it actually has the worst cap of all carriers. Not that the difference matters...  Edit: Spelling.
Hmmm it must be missing a a skill or some thing then.... Dam was going on about being able to sustain duel reps at 60% cap with 5x cap recharger IIs... while im finding it difficult even with rigs ... odd
As for the bonus.. ok sure... now looking at it, it could deffintly be boosted, id say it should have a Amound/Cap usage bonus in the end. But my point was that all carriers can be used on the front lines, i was there along with Dam in 2/3 of the engagments in my carrier... all it takes is to have a couple of balls and confidence in your gang members to be good enough. If you dont have those 2 requirments.. get the hell out of the carrier and back into a vexor ffs.
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Hohenheim OfLight
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:51:00 -
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the bouns sucks i dotn think i have ever used it, its behond usless its needs someting, even if it was smartbomb range per lvl now at least that would be usfull. ----------------------------------------------
Is mining for a hel mad? or just ambishus?
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