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        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 30
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 01:32:33 -
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 Working on project of a stats class and need players to fill out an eve related servey found here
 
 Should only take a few minutes.
 
 Thank you in advance.
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        |  ShahFluffers
 Ice Fire Warriors
 Snuffed Out
 
 9726
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 02:47:58 -
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 I like how you leave out Low-sec as a place where people primarily live and play (you know... the "grey area" between high and null-sec)
 
 Also... your first question is a bit vague. "What aspect of Eve Online would you like to see CCP work on most?" can be taken a number of ways.
 
 
 I don't mean to poo-poo on your parade... but in general you need to be a little more specific while remaining neutral to get more accurate survey results (lest your stats be ripped apart or manipulated to someone's own personal agenda).
 
 How did you Veterans start? "Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run." | 
      
      
        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 30
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 03:09:27 -
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 the results are't the point in this particular exercise. but thank you for pointing out my error on the lack of low sec option on the survey. I will correct that if I recycle it.
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        |  Sustrai Aditua
 Intandofisa
 
 34
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 04:25:55 -
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 "The results aren't the point...."  ROFL "The results aren't the point...." | 
      
      
        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 30
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 04:35:21 -
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 glad you know my professor's assignment better than I do. would you mind doing my homework for me?
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        |  Lulu Lunette
 ThinkTank Phoenix
 TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
 
 334
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 07:30:17 -
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 Done! Good luck on your homework
  
 @lunettelulu7 | 
      
      
        |  Bumblefck
 Kerensky Initiatives
 
 11402
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 11:36:31 -
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 Your snarky attitude will take you far, young padawan
 
 Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log | 
      
      
        |  Tisiphone Dira
 WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots
 The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
 
 701
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 12:26:34 -
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 You realize of course that EvE players are obligated to mess with your data, to gank your project, especially after being so polite?
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        |  Will Killem
 Omnia Faeces Inc.
 
 3
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 12:48:28 -
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 Filled it out. Shortest survey ever.
 
 Good luck with your project.
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        |  sci0gon
 Kaira Innovations
 Superior Eve Engineering
 
 35
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 12:58:22 -
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 filed out the survey, good luck with your project.
 
 also just to add, you missed out some forms of making isk , mission running and selling the items gained from it
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        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 30
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 15:10:19 -
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 Thank you to the 22 people who have filled it out so far.
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        |  Rovinia
 Exotic Dancers Union
 SONS of BANE
 
 484
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 18:36:53 -
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 sci0gon wrote:filed out the survey, good luck with your project.
 also just to add, you missed out some forms of making isk , mission running and selling the items gained from it
 
 You forgot trading too :)
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        |  Mr Epeen
 It's All About Me
 
 10060
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.25 19:27:37 -
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 Sustrai Aditua wrote:Well, the project might be something like, 'How many morons will fill out an online survey for no real reason'."The results aren't the point...."  ROFL "The results aren't the point...." 
 In that case, the answers - AKA, the results - would certainly be irrelevant.
 
 Mr Epeen
  
 
 There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! | 
      
      
        |  Sustrai Aditua
 Intandofisa
 
 35
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.26 04:38:15 -
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 Mr Epeen wrote:I love a guy whose suspicious nature borders on paranoia. A man after my own heart!Sustrai Aditua wrote:"The results aren't the point...."  ROFL "The results aren't the point...." Well, the project might be something like, 'How many morons will fill out an online survey for no real reason'.  In that case, the answers - AKA, the results - would certainly be irrelevant. Mr Epeen   
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        |  Grauth Thorner
 Vicious Trading Company
 
 483
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.26 10:39:49 -
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 Class project without class, so it seems. Either way good luck with it.
 
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        |  DeMichael Crimson
 Republic University
 Minmatar Republic
 
 53803
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.26 11:56:19 -
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 Will Killem wrote:Filled it out. Shortest survey ever.
 Good luck with your project.
 Definitely.
 
 
 
 DMC
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Khergit Deserters
 Crom's Angels
 
 4439
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.26 14:03:52 -
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 Filled it out. We must support all students. Keep them off of the streets.
 
 Statistics is an area of science that still needs a lot of work. So many surveys are so badly designed. The questions make false assumptions about some things, and show complete ignorance of other things. The answer is 42.
 
 Portrait inspired by my cocktiel Cockatiel. | 
      
      
        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 35
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.27 16:47:32 -
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 Quote:You forgot trading too :) 
 I did consider it but left it out because I wanted to ignore station traders. While I could be wrong I don't know anyone who does trading as a part of their main toon's income.
 
 
 Quote:Well, the project might be something like, 'How many morons will fill out an online survey for no real reason'. 
 In that case, the answers - AKA, the results - would certainly be irrelevant.
 
 Mr Epeen Cool
 
 Because there seems some care about the project I will elaborate. It is simply to gather data and input it into a program called Tableau to help us build proficiency with that program. Hence accuracy and validity for this particular survey are actually irrelevant.
 
 
 Quote:Filled it out. We must support all students. Keep them off of the streets.
 Statistics is an area of science that still needs a lot of work. So many surveys are so badly designed. The questions make false assumptions about some things, and show complete ignorance of other things. The answer is 42.
 
 This class is designed to help combat this. We are working on learning to write good surveys at this point in the class. And thank you for helping to keep me off the streets.
 
 Again I want to thank everyone who has responded so far. I am planning on keeping the survey open until 4/1 US TZ
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        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 36
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.29 18:34:56 -
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 Still open for a few more days
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        |  Marsha Mallow
 
 2812
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.29 20:23:40 -
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 Done. I like that you allowed for activity across space, but would have liked to see trade on your ISK making activities list. Puttng WiS at the top of future developments is also a bit leading. GL with the project either way.
 
 Knowing they have more SP than I do isnGÇÖt going to stop me from taking the fight if I was going to take it. | 
      
      
        |  Kitsune Rei
 Tastes Like Purple
 
 26
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.29 20:49:47 -
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 This seems like a trap. Is it a trap?
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        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 36
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.29 22:44:55 -
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 Marsha Mallow wrote:Done. I like that you allowed for activity across space, but would have liked to see trade on your ISK making activities list. Puttng WiS at the top of future developments is also a bit leading. GL with the project either way. Using that logic no matter what I put in there I would be leading people to that answer. Something had to go in the first slot it just happened to be WiS because that was what me and my corp mates were talking about the night before I wrote the survey.
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        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 36
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.29 22:45:44 -
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 Kitsune Rei wrote:This seems like a trap. Is it a trap?   In Eve it's always a trap
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        |  Duke Killem
 Center for Advanced Studies
 Gallente Federation
 
 69
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.29 23:58:18 -
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 Naj Panora wrote:
 Hence accuracy and validity for this particular survey are actually irrelevant.
 
 
 
 Errrrrrr, then fill it in yourself 100 times giving different answers!
 
 Or, do something all kids love to do for class assignments, fill a coke bottle with water, turn it upside down, pump water into it so it shoots up up into the air......Good times. Plus it has real learning value, imagine if Newton thought to himself accuracy and validity of this apple falling on my head are irrelevant, it's just a ******* apple falling on my head! Anyway back to shitposting in science weekly (or whatever they had back then).
 
 gl
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        |  Pookoko
 Sigma Sagittarii Inc.
 
 150
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.30 05:39:05 -
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 Did the survey, but seriously, this is really meh..
 
 Based on what you say, Duke Kilem is right. You didn't need anyone to fill in anything. You could've used RNG, or roll dices, whatever. There didn't even need to be questions, you could've asked people to choose between 1 ~ 6 five times or something like that.
 
 But anyways, you are in learning process and I remember my student days so I hope it works out well for you.
 
 Having said that, I have to point this out,
 
 Trading is the biggest income source for some players. They may not do it on their 'main toon', but that's irrelevant (well the whole idea of 'main toon' is a funny thing)
 
 I have done absolutely minimal PvE for the past half a decade or so. I don't make isk from gathering resources (such as PI or Mining) and I don't make isk from bounties (such as from ratting and anoms) and I don't depend on loot drops (either from PvP or from exploration or whatever). 99% of my income is based on the profit from buying something and selling it at higher price. Yes I do PvE at times, but that's more for the experiment/experience and not for ISK.
 
 And I don't think I'm anything special in this - in fact, I believe that most pvp vets in the game make majority of their income from trading characters so they can spend minimal amount of time on isk making activities and focus the most of their play time on pvp instead.
 
 
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        |  Naj Panora
 Diamond Dust.
 Shiva Alliance
 
 36
 
 
       | Posted - 2016.03.31 17:32:44 -
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 24 hours left.
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