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Ishtar1 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.13 04:55:00 - [1] HI there, I will be shorty making the jump into this fine ship and am just wondering about setups. At the moment i am looking at using [HIGH] 125mm railgunII x 3 [MED] MWDII Warp Disrutor (named) tracking disruptor (couldnt think what else to use in a I-stab setup) [LOW] I-stab x 2 Cap relay laugh all you want but im a noob at these things, thats y im here now some coments about above setup would be cool or suggestions. I will be using this in solo/small gang pirating, going after crusiers (i also come across AF ALOT so protection aggainst them would be cool) Reason i am looking to use the rail setup is to sit out at about 13k out of web range and nos range and speed tank against most. Im also curous (SP ) about the blaster setup as i dont realy want to go with it as if u get webbed / nosed dose it equal the end? is this true? and if not why not? or how do you get round it? ty
Divine Misconception	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:11:00 - [2] 3x neut mwd,scram,web mapc, 2x mfs -------------------------------- Coke Habit.
Arushia Nova Labs	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:29:00 - [3] Originally by: Divine Misconception 3x neut mwd,scram,web mapc, 2x mfs And MFS benefit Neuts how?
X99 Z990	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:33:00 - [4] Originally by: Arushia Originally by: Divine Misconception 3x neut mwd,scram,web mapc, 2x mfs And MFS benefit Neuts how? That obviously means light neutron blasters?
Divine Misconception	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:33:00 - [5] Originally by: Arushia Originally by: Divine Misconception 3x neut mwd,scram,web mapc, 2x mfs And MFS benefit Neuts how? You are a dumb person. -------------------------------- Coke Habit.
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Divine Misconception You are a dumb person. That has to be the single best flame I have ever read on these forums. --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!
Ishtar1 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.13 06:09:00 - [7] thx for the setup but isnt that setup very ceceptable to web and nos or basicly do u just go 1km from them n pray u kill them before they kill you?
za3phyr	Posted - 2007.02.13 06:29:00 - [8] go with t2 125mm rails and spike. with nice skills u'll have 24km optimal and with some manual flying u'll be killing ceptors in a few volleys. just don't let them come 2 close :)
Divine Misconception	Posted - 2007.02.13 07:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Ishtar1 thx for the setup but isnt that setup very ceceptable to web and nos or basicly do u just go 1km from them n pray u kill them before they kill you? The setup I gave you pushes 300 raw dps. Anything BC and below will be toast fairly quickly. Run with it, and you'll understand the limitations far better than a lot of text can explain. -------------------------------- Coke Habit.
Divine Misconception	Posted - 2007.02.13 07:17:00 - [10] Originally by: za3phyr go with t2 125mm rails and spike. with nice skills u'll have 24km optimal and with some manual flying u'll be killing ceptors in a few volleys. just don't let them come 2 close :) 125mm rail is ok, damage is crap. Plated ranis with 125's can kill a blaster ranis if he can kite. Real men fit 2x MFS and a rack of neuts though. -------------------------------- Coke Habit.
Nedolzna Ovcica	Posted - 2007.02.13 08:13:00 - [11] Originally by: Divine Misconception Originally by: za3phyr go with t2 125mm rails and spike. with nice skills u'll have 24km optimal and with some manual flying u'll be killing ceptors in a few volleys. just don't let them come 2 close :) 125mm rail is ok, damage is crap. Plated ranis with 125's can kill a blaster ranis if he can kite. Real men fit 2x MFS and a rack of neuts though. hehe it's not about the size of the damage, it's how u use it! :)
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 08:36:00 - [12] Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 13/02/2007 08:37:18 Originally by: Divine Misconception 3x neut mwd,scram,web mapc, 2x mfs fit a DC instead one of the MFS and you'll survive long enough this setup has also enough spare PG to fit some hybrid turret rigs on it (only if you're a crazy mofo who wants to fly a gankranis worth 60mio isk ) to the op - if you want to go shortrange - fit a hitpointbuffer/tank instead of i-stabs, as you WILL be shot when you get into webrange (especially when you go solo ) ... a SAR without HP buffer like a plate/DC is also quite useless - since you a.) need cap and b.) time to repair your armor ... normally both things you don't have much in combat. ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
NVail	Posted - 2007.02.13 08:46:00 - [13] The problem with a rails fit is the 20km warp disruptors suck tons of cap, making it very difficult to mwd + scram + shoot at the same time unless you have a bunch more skillpoints than me (and even then, I'm not sure you can do it for long without running cap mods) or you dedicate several otherwise useful fitting slots to cap mods. Implants help, skills help, but most likely you will soon be facing an empty cap once you turn on the guns. The ship just begs to be rigged as a blaster boat. The problem with a blaster fit is you will die horrendous flaming webbed death. As such, consider selling your ranis and buy a crow, or fit it cheapishly and just accept that you will go through a bunch of them.
Toolivus	Posted - 2007.02.13 08:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Divine Misconception The setup I gave you pushes 300 raw dps. Anything BC and below will be toast fairly quickly. Run with it, and you'll understand the limitations far better than a lot of text can explain. Of course, if it has a web you're dead. And if he's 'new to inties' he probably won't be pushing anywhere near 300dps.
Ishtar1 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.13 09:30:00 - [15] As the guy above me stated i still don't quite have the damage output to do the full gank as to why i was thinking about going down the out manouver them route (pin them down and move so fast they cant hit me type thing) And to the guy above him aye tested it on SISI and cap was a prob would it be an idea to out the target disruptor (as that takes up yet more cap) and exchange with a cap recharger?
Bazman Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.13 09:32:00 - [16] I think you can slap ions on the 2 Mag field stab setup and squeeze a nos on it, i really can't remember though, haven't flown my Ranis for ages /strokes meh Astarte -----
Mutant Caldari Caldari VSP Corp. R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.13 09:35:00 - [17] I like the following setup Highs- 3 Light Ion Blaster II's Mids- 1 MN MWD II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Faint Warp Prohibtor Lows- SAR II DCU II Some kind of PDS P.S. My fitting skills are utter crap lol Yeah I am a pirate.What are you gonna do about it?
Doktor Soet The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.13 09:40:00 - [18] Edited by: Doktor Soet on 13/02/2007 09:38:57 fitting on my ranis depends a lot on what 8`m planing to do. for solo work i would never fit rails. for solo work i really like the classic 3x ions, nos, mwd, web, scram, rep, mapc, dmg control. problem is without speed mods u`r quiet vulnerable to other ceptors that r able to move faster then u. pic other ceptors wisely and watch out what they r doing and how fast they can move. investing some isks in imps is also a good idea. for small gang action i would try a neutron fit. dmg as much as possible. only as support ship in fleets i fit rails and perhaps!!! a tracking disruptor. but honestly this is not an ew ship. and i dont like to fit a module that works with falloff +50 km and i can only lock targets at 25-28km if u wanna play ew-ceptor-support jump into a stiletto. but as u said u plan to use it against cruiser sized targets that rat i would jump in the ion fitted ship. works really nice and the nos allowes u to run the rep quiet long without mwd turned on. from what i`ve seen against af pilots u`ll have a hard time. sometimes u`ll be lucky to kill one sometimes not. the funiest moment i had in my ranis was against a wolf. dmg i recieved was insane so i descided to run as fast as possible while webbed. my nos did his work and so i was able to hit the mwd 1 more time. so did the af pilot and i thought ok now u r dead and i prepaired to warp my pod out. but lucky me, my nos and his mwd had emtied his cap so i was no longer scramed. made it out with 2% structur lot of blabla i made here but conclusion of all this: learn to pick ur targets and when its time to run or get used to the nice explosion effects
Riho Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:39:00 - [19] Originally by: Mutant Caldari I like the following setup Highs- 3 Light Ion Blaster II's Mids- 1 MN MWD II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Faint Warp Prohibtor Lows- SAR II DCU II Some kind of PDS P.S. My fitting skills are utter crap lol kinda ok... but 3x ion t2, 1x dimi small nos mwd t2, web, 20km scram sar t2, dcu t2, micro aux 2x hobgoblin t2 sofar worked great :D killed a few ceptors solo and few bigger suff allso. Great being Gallente... aint it ?
kill0rbunny Caldari Chimera Intelligence Agency	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:16:00 - [20] Originally by: Toolivus Originally by: Divine Misconception The setup I gave you pushes 300 raw dps. Anything BC and below will be toast fairly quickly. Run with it, and you'll understand the limitations far better than a lot of text can explain. Of course, if it has a web you're dead. And if he's 'new to inties' he probably won't be pushing anywhere near 300dps. That requires beeing targeted, which isn't that easy when the mwd is turned off. - I got a portrait now, wheeeee! \o/

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