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Stained
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Posted - 2003.12.14 04:26:00 -
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Edited by: Stained on 15/12/2003 23:28:23 Edited by: Stained on 14/12/2003 04:34:52 First off, Red Corsairs are disbanding. For all our enemies don't give yourselves the pleasure of thinking that you are the cuase of our disbanding. We havenÆt really been a corp, so to speak, as of late. We were down to 5-6 solid members, and we never fought together as a corp. Half of us would be fighting in curse, and the other half would be fighting elsewhere. So we decided to go our separate ways, some joining production/pvp corps and the others(like myself) join pirating corps.
And now for the big ol' skeleton out off the closet. A few months ago, in September I believe we sent a spy of ours into Everlasting Vendetta. Here's the eve-mail: *I did not print the name of this person out of respect for him*
2003.09.21 10:12:00 **** (*****) has also work out an alliance with Everlasting Vendetta. We would be hired to do their ôdirty workö in Stain region. They will provide us BSÆs at cost; this will also get us into region where there will be decent fighting for us. We have a couple of pilots waiting in the wings to join RC. Pooti and Tookash Kriaok. It will be of benefit to admit some fresh blood into corp. to continue our growth.
In conclusion, the above changes should be in place by later tonight and will ensure we continue our growth and have fun as the excellent corp RC has proven to be.
Cheers,
Gresil /end eve-mail
Unfortunately, A few days later an Everlasting Vendetta pilot openly engaged us near Curse at one of our mining spots. We decided that we could not trust our alleged spy and that we would be forced to kick him out.
All I have to say is: Watch your back SA, EV may not be the friendly corp you think it is
PS: 99.9% chance of EV denying this, but I figured I'd put this out for public display.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.12.14 04:46:00 -
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I had hoped that M0o would die off in favor for Red Corsairs and other less teletubby corporations. 
I think it's safe to say we all know about the formula where the badasses who label themselves elite take on silly names to further emphasize that they don't need the warning label they're lethal despite being named Carebears on Weed or some such peonic thing.
It's as old as communication and quite frankly you bore me.
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Stained
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Posted - 2003.12.14 04:48:00 -
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Uhm, k. Thanks! ___________________________________________________________________
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Redon
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Posted - 2003.12.14 04:49:00 -
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lol 1 think dude r u high, im sorry but that didnt make much sense no offense.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2003.12.14 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 14/12/2003 04:52:31 Talked to Spectre about this when he was on our teamspeak, I wonder who else besides Omega Corp EV wanted us to kill
Wonder how things would have turned out if Faisal stayed and we helped EV fight in Stain.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.12.14 04:53:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 14/12/2003 04:55:47 Although we're enemies... good luck. Oh, and I hope this doesn't mean I won't see Bob local anymore (when I get back to playing EVE)
Quote: [All I have to say is: Watch your back SA, EV may not be the friendly corp you think it is
Though I don't want to comment on internal matters in SA and neither have the autority for any official statement... ...I think things should be pretty clear if you've read all the threads about OC.
*edit* ahhh, Bob is also in m0o. Then I guess we will see him around.
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Korath
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Posted - 2003.12.14 05:02:00 -
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If this is true then my suspicions about EV have been correct. Interesting :)
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2003.12.14 05:10:00 -
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And it was about 2 weeks that we had an NAP with them, hesitating over deciding to move to stain. I talked to a few of the EV pilots in a channel they had set up for us, met some nice people - none of the forum post *****s. They let us run blockades, and we would tell them when they were being hunted down by Curse forces.
Their guy opened fire because it was clear we werent committed to move without Faisal there, and were making more friends in Curse
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Stained
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Posted - 2003.12.14 05:12:00 -
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Thanks, Dalman. Aye, we always had a blast fighting. There were more conversations describing who our targets were and waht not, but unfortunatley this was the only log I could recover, and I figured without proof it's worthless eh? I'll just say that OC wasn't the only one on the "hitlist". ___________________________________________________________________
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Korath
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Posted - 2003.12.14 05:25:00 -
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Oh man I'm drooling here. In effect EV betrayed the SA long before they booted us out using "legit" methods.
I sure explains alot though, in particular the fact that EV wanted peace with CA all of the sudden and the fact that they pulled out of Curse a few months back to do pure defense of the region which I rarely saw as well.
Yes indeed, it would explain alot of behavior.
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Darodem
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Posted - 2003.12.14 05:51:00 -
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I believe Stain and the so-called Stain Alliance is irretrievably corrupted and compromised by the treachery of Everlasting Vendetta. It appears that EV is in charge while other less motivated but more honorable corps go along pretending they are not being used.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.14 10:19:00 -
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Quote: There were more conversations describing who our targets were and waht not, but unfortunatley this was the only log I could recover, and I figured without proof it's worthless eh?
Worthless as this thread, yeah?
I'm loving all this propoganda against Everlasting Vendetta - it means we're really kicking your asses and your last recourse is to try and battle us on the forums.

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pooti
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Posted - 2003.12.14 10:54:00 -
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Edited by: pooti on 14/12/2003 10:54:52
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Quote: There were more conversations describing who our targets were and waht not, but unfortunatley this was the only log I could recover, and I figured without proof it's worthless eh?
Worthless as this thread, yeah?
I'm loving all this propoganda against Everlasting Vendetta - it means we're really kicking your asses and your last recourse is to try and battle us on the forums.

No it means we're free of any ties to anything and we can post whatever the **** we want.
Sad to see RC go, and I do hope we have enough people come back to the game to reform, but now we get to kill everybody.
And I mean that's pretty sweet.
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2003.12.14 11:42:00 -
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This shocks anyone? We have been telling the SA that EV has been pulling underhanded crap against OC (and now obviously more than just us) for quite some time. From shadow ops to illegal mining ops.
Maybe, just maybe, they'll finally start opening their eyes.
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Alpha
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Posted - 2003.12.14 11:50:00 -
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Funniest thread so far.. Do you get stoned and just make stuff up?
Come guys,, keep the war in space and stop posting crap in the forums.
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semp
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Posted - 2003.12.14 11:52:00 -
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"Red Corsairs are disbanding"
Another one bites the Dust !!!!!!!
"For all our enemies don't give yourselves the pleasure of thinking that you are the cuase of our disbanding"
Too Late ! we will take pleasure how and where we find it, this is one of these times 
Semp
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.14 14:26:00 -
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Well well well.... I'd give anything to be at the next SA council meeting. 
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2003.12.14 15:04:00 -
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I can see the CA people sitting in station trying to devise a way of beating us now their getting their asses royaly worked over.
'hey we're having our asses had. what can we do?'
'what all other failing corps do, TAKE TO THE FORUMS'
'of course why didnt i think of that EV will surely fall muhahahaha'

You guys are sad. I think most normal people take things written on the forums with slightly more than a little pinch of salt. More like a bucket.
-AJ-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2003.12.14 15:38:00 -
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Quote: 'what all other failing corps do, TAKE TO THE FORUMS'
Ahhhh this explains why EV are such forum *****s 
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2003.12.14 15:49:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: 'what all other failing corps do, TAKE TO THE FORUMS'
Ahhhh this explains why EV are such forum *****s 
we dont start topics, we only continue them, so we beat you in both areas muhahhaha 
-Aj-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Maasu
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Posted - 2003.12.14 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Maasu on 14/12/2003 15:51:54 Yea it does seem very pathetic. I mean to make up something like this, when EV and RC had good relations previously? Surley a bit of PvP and local smack talk hasn't driven RC to such low standards?
Unless the entire thing is true?
[Edit: Please note the ammount of question marks in my post.]
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CORE TRADER
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Posted - 2003.12.14 16:05:00 -
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Did not SA attempt to kick out EV from the alliance a while back? Wonder what that was over?
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2003.12.14 16:08:00 -
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Quote: Did not SA attempt to kick out EV from the alliance a while back? Wonder what that was over?
Nope, dont know where you got that one from.
-Aj-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.12.14 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Scragg on 14/12/2003 16:18:30 Of course a self admitted pirate would never lie and post a less than truthfull account of events to hopefully relieve the pressue from the people supporting him.
This should also be a wake up call for all you people who still buy the "we are not pirates anymore" line from the CA. They are not pirates when it suits them, and they are when it does. Quit supporting these murders and thieves!
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Korath
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Posted - 2003.12.14 16:24:00 -
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Just because someone is a "pirate" does not mean they are also a lier. I can't say for myself that this stuff is true but it cant just be dismissed either. I've grown to respect the CA in recent weeks, I trust them alot more than I would EV.
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Stained
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Posted - 2003.12.14 16:31:00 -
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Listen, we've held on to this eve-mail for quite some time now. When our corp decided to disband we figured we didn't owe it to anyone to just keep this stowd away. We posted this here not for Everlasting Vendetta to come and mouth off and lie, but to show the public what EV is really like.
And all you guys saying "Just another bunch of CA BS blah blah blah", We're not even in the CA anymore(though don't expect us not too shoot at alliance enemies).
And aye, I sat in a station for 9 strait hours trying to come up with a load of bull**** to spread on the forums becuase EV are so damn godly . ___________________________________________________________________
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redi
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Posted - 2003.12.14 17:04:00 -
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OMG you guys are so funny, wow such a good imagination NOT, do that in game and maybe you will win somethingà. Also ask your self wtf would a 250 member corp need the help of a 6-10 man corp rofl lmao.
I personally donÆt give a f**** ***** s**** about what the general forum people think of EV.
MY response to this is that I would personally quit EV and this game, if even part of this was true. So get over it Red Corsairs you guys suck both in game and on the forums.
I live and die with honor.
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Stained
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Posted - 2003.12.14 17:39:00 -
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Better cancel the subscription now buddy. And I think RC has lost...uhm 1 carcel to EV(mine) and we've killed quite a number of your BS's FYI . You wanna know WHY EV would want to hire us? Becuase you guys said you didn't want to "dirty your hands with internal issues". It's not that you couldn't it's that you wouldn't. Now redi go talk to some of your military "chiefs", and ask them about this befor rambling your mouth.
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redi
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Posted - 2003.12.14 17:53:00 -
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Quote: Because you guys said you didn't want to "dirty your hands with internal issues". It's not that you couldn't it's that you wouldn't.
rofl ThatÆs exactly what I wanted to hear!! Shows you that our leaders care about its members and what they think, which is perfect itÆs not dictatorship its DEMOCRACY!!! Question do you know what that is????
Thank you for your time. IÆm done here. Good luck and see you.
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TheFatman
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Posted - 2003.12.14 18:06:00 -
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Quote: Just because someone is a "pirate" does not mean they are also a lier. I can't say for myself that this stuff is true but it cant just be dismissed either. I've grown to respect the CA in recent weeks, I trust them alot more than I would EV.
And your right with your first sentance, but that sentance doesn't apply with the CA or RC, they were and still are lieing: -they admited pirates into their alliance -helped build up the pirates -attacked a nuetral alliance (CFS) -when the PR got bad ceased the war -then tapes were released showing they were just going to bide their time and attack again -denied the above -Surprise, surprise, Moo "leaves" the CA and is attacking CFS.
So yes, just because someones a pirate, it does not mean they are also a lier, but in this case RC and the CA has already been shown to be the latter, so I look at this "evidence" very skeptically.
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